Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

On 6 May 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > In this information age, we ordinary people have everything to lose to the > > few powerful people who would prefer us to be ignorant. Those powerful > > people come in all shades of blue (capitalists) and red (commies). > > Which begs the question: Cap

[SLUG] (was: snooping / detective work.)

Yeah I guess it would be a waste of resources. It would still prove to be a worthwhile setup to detect any future attempts though wouldn't it? I seem to recall reading on the snort site that the optimum setup is to have 1 snort running outside the firewall and one inside the firewall.. that way

Re: [SLUG] Little Brother Database and Mutt

Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, Joshua Burvill said: > >the solution, don't know, maybe a script to feed it one message at a time > >from your mbox till all the msgs have been processed. > > formail -s lbdb-fetchaddr < slug and Jeff suggested: > formail -I'From ' -s lbdb

[SLUG] Avoiding the Big Incompetencies [Was: Postfix - Sending mail]

> Maybe you could put that specific server (eg. smtp-04.myisp...) as your > relayhost but I'm not sure that's a particularly good idea even if it does > work. One reason to choose a specific member of the SMTP pool is that both Telstra and Optus have half of their machines listed in ORBS. First

Re: [SLUG] Gnumeric on RH7

> Hmm. Thanks to both Terry and Jeff, but still no luck. Trouble is, I'm > not sure if it _ever_ worked on the RH7 installation. Have a go at Ximian Gnome 1.4 - I've installed it on a couple of the Debian machines here, and it's quite cool. One of the perkiest features is the Gnome Doorman; the

Re: [SLUG] Postfix - Sending mail

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:53:23PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > >a) Why do I see different SMTP servers used when sending mail > >(smtp-01.myisp, smtp-06.myisp ) ? > > A round robin system for the SMTP servers at your ISP. > > >b) Is it possible to tell postfix to use the same

Re: [SLUG] Gnumeric on RH7

Hmm. Thanks to both Terry and Jeff, but still no luck. Trouble is, I'm not sure if it _ever_ worked on the RH7 installation. I did disable some services after reading a security thingy, but I can't really remember what (I know, I know!) - and, as I say, everything else seems to be working well.

Re: [SLUG] Postfix - Sending mail

> Now I specify my own local SMTP (postfix) server. When it goes to send > mail, it uses different MX entries to route the mail to. This meant I had > to open up the firewall to SMTP on all IP addresses - which has to be a > bad thing. You need to allow the mailserver to send via SMTP, so ope

[SLUG] Postfix - Sending mail

I have a general query regarding Postfix and redirection of mail out of my box. I can send & receive email OK but I had a firewall problem when sending mail to my ISP's smtp server. With the old client based system (ie netscape sending / receiving mail directly from the ISP) all I had to do w

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

> In this information age, we ordinary people have everything to lose to the > few powerful people who would prefer us to be ignorant. Those powerful > people come in all shades of blue (capitalists) and red (commies). Which begs the question: Capitalists and Communists can't be "ordinary peopl

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

On 6 May 2001, Del wrote: > > I would just like to make it known that I am neither Trotskyite, Stalinist, > Right Wing, or any other -ism you want to maintain I am. I'm a Linux > dude, OK? I don't give a hoot about politics and as far as I know I'm > not even on the electoral roll at the momen

[SLUG] Re: [ANN] Help fight the dreaded H.T.M.L.

Anand Kumria wrote: > 1. The main types of dynamic content discussed were announcements of > upcoming events (meetings, fests etc), and news relevent to Sluggers, > and anyone using Linux in Sydney (but NOT general geek news, headlines > etc). Adrian Casey from the Alice Springs Linux Users Grou

Re: [SLUG] I need to do some snooping / detective work.

If you M$ server has been compromised and your not bothered at this stage that it remains compromised for a while, and if your Internet to server connection is on Ethernet, then just hang a passive sniffer on the Ethernet and watch what passes. However if your Internet connection is ppp them you

[SLUG] Ximian Gnome

Is anyone using Gnome ? I have just downloaded the ximian version of Gnome 1.4 (all 140 MB) of it and it looks pretty good. Comes with Mozilla which supports multiple email accounts (unlike netscape) and a heap of other stuff. I still reckon the KDE editor is better than gedit since it does a

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

Damn. I wish I'd read this thread now, it sounds interesting. (off to read the archives) Thus spake Del ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I would just like to make it known that I am neither Trotskyite, Stalinist, > Right Wing, or any other -ism you want to maintain I am. I'm a Linux > dude, OK? I do

Re: [SLUG] Little Brother Database and Mutt

This one time, at band camp, Joshua Burvill said: >the solution, don't know, maybe a script to feed it one message at a time >from your mbox till all the msgs have been processed. formail -s lbdb-fetchaddr < slug formail is a brilliant utility that will read in a mbox file and pipe each message

Re: [SLUG] I need to do some snooping / detective work.

> What I'd like to be able to do before I set up said firewall is > set up a sort of packet sniffer box in between the internet and one of the > servers that this person is using. Hopefully to find out who they are and > what they are doing. Right answer, wrong problem. Who they are

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

I would just like to make it known that I am neither Trotskyite, Stalinist, Right Wing, or any other -ism you want to maintain I am. I'm a Linux dude, OK? I don't give a hoot about politics and as far as I know I'm not even on the electoral roll at the moment. I still think that "Why RedHat Su

[SLUG] I need to do some snooping / detective work.

Hi Sluggers, Can I have some feedback on whether the following is on the right track/ wrong/ completely not worth the effort. The place where I work has been compromised mainly due to the fact they are primarily a M$ shop and so they have no firewall currently (that is now g

Re: [SLUG] Little Brother Database and Mutt

> the solution, don't know, maybe a script to feed it one message at a time > from your mbox till all the msgs have been processed. formail -I'From ' -s lbdb-fetchaddr < mbox - Jeff -- "GIMP is the primary tool in my graphics work. It is my gcc and Emacs." -

Re: [SLUG] Gnumeric on RH7

> I don't know if this is a "RH Sucks" issue or not. No, this is a GNOME sucks issue; and I say that as a very involved GNOME user and contributor. :) > I upgraded a RH 6.x system to RH7 a while back. Just noticed that Gnumeric > doesn't work now. I get a message "Gnumeric failed to find a sui

Re: [SLUG] Little Brother Database and Mutt

On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 10:19:06PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I liked that Mutt tip about using lbdb that Simon Rumble made some time ago > and have just installed lbdb and am trying to get it working. > Running it manually I have seeded the database by running the script > > lbdd-fet

Re: [SLUG] Gnumeric on RH7

xfs504 0.0 3.1 5136 1944 ?S08:16 0:02 xfs -droppriv -da And all other X-features seem to be working just fine. -- -- Alan L Tyree[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.law.usyd.edu.au/~alant Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

> Concept Totally lost. This isn't a medical condition in case anyone is > wondering, but a micro-faction of leftist politics and a lesson in how not > to co-operate - if there is one thing a leftist splinter party hates more > that the right wing pollies, it is other leftist groups that don't f

Re: [SLUG] gesture based input

> This one time, at band camp, Steve Kowalik said: > >Ohhh, silly me! I thought it was like, "Move arm toward screen and extend middle >finger" for reboot, but this makes much more sense. > > Sounds like my debugging technique. Hang on a sec - that's how I reboot my NT servers (monthly) !! -

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

Rev Simon Rumble wrote: > > On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 06:07:30PM +1000, Del uttered: > > > I strongly suggest, in the interest of the entire world wide Linux > > community, that you take it down and replace it with something a > > little more user friendly. > > No. With a little open criticism,

Re: [SLUG] Quiet Computers

Terry Collins wrote: ..snip > In all cases, a better quality fan will usually solve the problem. There > is also variation in fans, so swapping in another fan may lower the > noise level. And if you have some cash, try a peitler (sp?) onto the CPU and video card. -- Terry Collins {:-)

Re: [SLUG] Gnumeric on RH7

Alan L Tyree wrote: ..snip > I upgraded a RH 6.x system to RH7 a while back. Just noticed that > Gnumeric doesn't work now. I get a message "Gnumeric failed to find a > suitable default font" and am asked to verify the gnome-print > installation (checks out ok with rpm verify) and my fontmap

[SLUG] Gnumeric on RH7

I don't know if this is a "RH Sucks" issue or not. I upgraded a RH 6.x system to RH7 a while back. Just noticed that Gnumeric doesn't work now. I get a message "Gnumeric failed to find a suitable default font" and am asked to verify the gnome-print installation (checks out ok with rpm verify) and

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

hear, hear. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Sat, 5 May 2001, Del wrote: [big snip] > > Simon, sure, a "How to use Debian for RedHat users" might be somewhat

Re: [SLUG] Crazy Book Review Action!

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:54:20PM +1000, Jeff Waugh uttered: > * Linux for Windows Addicts: > > "A 12-Step Program for Habitual Windows Users" > > > * Linux Programming, A Beginner's Guide: > > Bash, TCSH, Perl, Tcl/Tk, GAWK, GNOME, KDE... > I'll claim this one if I win. > - Your favou

Re: [SLUG] Crazy Book Review Action!

On 4 May, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Please email back to the list with: > > - Your favourite Linux or Free Software related quote. There are a couple that I love the best: Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds Oh, and t

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:21:33AM +1000, Jeff Waugh uttered: > I think Del was saying something kinda like this: > > "It takes less mental effort to condemn than to think." If you read the actual piece, I say that "Red Hat sucks" is probably a bit harsh. Mabye I'm just infected by the appal

Re: [SLUG] gesture based input

This one time, at band camp, Steve Kowalik said: >Ohhh, silly me! I thought it was like, "Move arm toward screen and extend middle >finger" for reboot, but this makes much more sense. Sounds like my debugging technique. -- jamesw what's wrong with the default? :) It is poopie. -- SLUG - S

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

> If I can't dance, this isn't my revolution. I think Del was saying something kinda like this: "It takes less mental effort to condemn than to think." [ Another Emma Goldman. ] :) - Jeff -- "You know, the crunchy, folk-singer part of me wants to believe that a performa

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 06:07:30PM +1000, Del uttered: > I strongly suggest, in the interest of the entire world wide Linux > community, that you take it down and replace it with something a > little more user friendly. No. With a little open criticism, Red Hat might actually fix these problems

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

At this point i would like to mention turbolinux. If your a redhat fan and are sick of the amount of rubbish you get, and youd also like to have more provided binary packages that are better-than-rh integrated, then turbo could be for you. Go get the iso now. There is a workstation and a server,

[SLUG] 1722k syslinux boot disk

Hi, Does anyone on the list know how to make one? I can follow the syslinux doco and make a 1440k bootdisk. (format the disk under DOS with the /s switch first) I can also make a dos formatted 1722k disk using superformat under linux. Unfortunately I can't format a 1722k disk under DOS. I _thi

Re: [SLUG] Quiet Computers

> Getting used to the no-button mouse will be fun and games tho :) Do the feely mice have any kind of positional pressure sensitivity, or is it just one big thumping pad? It would be somewhat confusing, but it might be fun to hack on, too. :) - Jeff -- There's no horse higher, no maili

Re: [SLUG] Quiet Computers

On 2 May 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > In all cases, a better quality fan will usually solve the problem. > > PHB!!111 > Hear the sound of one hand clapping, why not get rid of the fan and go the Apple Cube with Linux PPC. Getting used to the no-button mouse will be fun and games tho :)

[SLUG] sending mail from mutt problem

Hi all, Have a prob in that mail to slug goes through ok but mail to Uni of Technology, Sydney does not. I just send a message to myself at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and its there in my mail queue (note im using exim on a deb box): mikel$ /usr/sbin/sendmail -bp Mail Queue (1 request) --Q-ID-- --

Re: [SLUG] internet connection and bind

On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 03:25:12AM +1000, Jeff Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Is there a way telling for example "bind" to be based on the eth0 device > > instead of being based on the ppp0 device? > > How do you mean 'based on'? > > You can use the listen-on BIND directive to have i

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

OK, and I have a number of equivalent arguments as to why Debian sucks. For example: * Why don't they build packages from pristine sources. * What the fxxk is the name of the program I use to install packages again, is it dselect, apt-get, or dpkg? * Why does dselect tell me it's going to apply

Re: [SLUG] gesture based input

On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 03:57:11PM +1000, Peter Hardy uttered: > The developmental versions of the fvwm window manager have had support for > libstroke (http://www.etla.net/libstroke/) for quite a while, letting you > bind gestures to wm events. I had it recognising very simple gestures > (hold d

[SLUG] Re: sending mail from mutt problem

On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 11:19:31PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Have a prob in that mail to slug goes through ok but mail to Uni of > Technology, Sydney does not. I just send a message to myself at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and its there in my mail queue (note im using exim on a > deb box

[SLUG] Little Brother Database and Mutt

Hi Guys I liked that Mutt tip about using lbdb that Simon Rumble made some time ago and have just installed lbdb and am trying to get it working. Running it manually I have seeded the database by running the script lbdd-fetchaddr < slug (slug is my last years mailing list) This does seem to

Re: [SLUG] UPS for linux

On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 11:36:35AM +1000, Bernhard L?der wrote: > You may also want consider SOLA. > Firstly they are Australian made > Secondly they have software for various OSs > Thirdly their software works > Fourthly their support is also reasonable. and fifthly they have normal Australian p

Re: [SLUG] cdrom prob with vmware

Thanks, I'll try this. Think I'll go back to kernel 2.4.3 now since vmware has now released an upgrade for 2.4 kernels for its workstation 2.0 product. -Josh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

[SLUG] [BORING] Server Issues

Hi all, Just had a bit of web downtime, but the mailing list is still operational and okay; the archive searching facility will be back up soon. I'd love to say this was scheduled... :) - Jeff -- Penguinillas Pack GNUzis. -- SLUG - Sydney L