Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?

2004-11-29 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 18:03 +1100, David wrote: > This thread made me wonder: If people were brought up on Gnu/Linux the way > most people are brought up on Windows, would they then find linux really > easy, and Windows counter-intuitive and confusing? Is it simply what you > learn first that defi

familiarity (was: Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?)

2004-11-29 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, David wrote: >This thread made me wonder: If people were brought up on Gnu/Linux the way >most people are brought up on Windows, would they then find linux really >easy, and Windows counter-intuitive and confusing? Is it simply what you >learn first that defines what yo

Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?

2004-11-29 Thread Shehjar Tikoo
Hi all David wrote: > I spent 10 years learning photoshop, and it took me an annoying one month to get the hang of GIMP. I kept expecting it to work EXACTLY the same as photoshop. This thread made me wonder: If people were brought up on Gnu/Linux the way most people are brought up on Windows, wou

Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?

2004-11-29 Thread David
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Craige McWhirter wrote: > On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 20:48 +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: > > Final straw was trying to set transparent background. I was presented > > with techno-gobbledegook. > > File - New - Fill Type: Transparent > > or in an existing image: > > Layer - New Layer

Re: [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet? is 4/12 install fest nextbest meet to get gen lowdown? what's SLUG relationship with CAT?

2004-11-29 Thread Michael Lake
Craige McWhirter wrote: On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 11:03 +1100, Brian Goddard wrote: -what's SLUG relationship with CAT: http://cat.org.au/ There's also a great deal of involvement within the SLUG community with NGO's and other community groups in general. Was there a particular relationship betwee

Re: [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet? is 4/12 install fest next best meet to get gen lowdown? what's SLUG relationship with CAT?

2004-11-29 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 11:03 +1100, Brian Goddard wrote: > -what's SLUG relationship with CAT: http://cat.org.au/ Many SLUGers will still be reading that URL and may not have even heard of CAT before. There's no official or even casual connection between SLUG and CAT. Both serve very different com

Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?

2004-11-29 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 20:48 +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: > Final straw was trying to set transparent background. I was presented > with techno-gobbledegook. File - New - Fill Type: Transparent or in an existing image: Layer - New Layer - Layer Fill Type: Transparent Doesn't come a whole lot more

Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie

2004-11-29 Thread TongMaster
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 01:22 +1100, Elliott-Brennan wrote: > GIMP: I HATE the name. Can't help it :) Geeez, undo a button or two ;) I personally get a little amusement from peoples reactions when I say "Nevermind, I'll bring out the GIMP to fix it..." or "nothing the GIMP can't fix", etc. You get

[SLUG] Re: sco site

2004-11-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:41:50PM +1100, moise lim wrote: > check out http://www.sco.com > > boy oh boy.. defacement at it's best :) It was a particularly impressive defacement. I can't agree with the principle, but the implementation was one of the finest examples of the craft. - Matt signa

RE: [SLUG] sco site

2004-11-29 Thread Roger Barnes
> > >check out http://www.sco.com > > > > > >boy oh boy.. defacement at it's best :) > > > > > >i'll try to save a copy of it .. but then it's better to > check it out > > >uself :) > > > > What, no "All Your Code Are Belong To Us"? > > > > Hehehe, I almost missed at first glance. > > Gone no

[SLUG] Photoshop vs. GIMP

2004-11-29 Thread Michael Lake
Heracles wrote: Amazing, I have used Photoshop V4.5, 6 and 7 but find the latest version of the GIMP much better and definitely easier to use. Oh well, each to his own I guess. The user interface is different. That can be re-learnt. But if you want pantone(registered) colours you'r out of luck w

Re: [SLUG] sco site

2004-11-29 Thread Glen Lewis
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:53:05AM +1100, Keith Hopkins wrote: > moise lim wrote: > >anybody still awake this time of the nite??? > > > >check out http://www.sco.com > > > >boy oh boy.. defacement at it's best :) > > > >i'll try to save a copy of it .. but then it's better to check it out > >uself

[SLUG] VET affairs

2004-11-29 Thread Ken Foskey
Did anyone read the vet affairs article about looking for office suite replacements on news.com.au. The comment I was interested in was the reliability of the new system was very poor. No real details though. Anyone have any information on this? -- Ken Foskey OpenOffice.org programmer -- SLU

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu CDs available

2004-11-29 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Oh, I've also got tickets to the Dapto Under 60s Speed Patchwork Quilt Skins Comp. Any takers? They're free! LOL Elliott-Brennan wrote: >Thanks Jeff, you reminded me: > >I have five gmail accounts to give away too! Me too (10 invitations). *** Grr. If this has to go on, please tak

Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie

2004-11-29 Thread Elliott-Brennan
I can't say I know GIMP well enough to make comparisons. What I have read is that it's not good with CYMK and that restricts it's photo-graphic use.I've used PS for a few years and, well PS for me, though I'd like to know GIMP better - I wouldn't recommend buying PS unless you 'really' need

Gmail automaton (Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu CDs available)

2004-11-29 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Grr. If this has to go on, please take it to slug-chat. :-) Actually, take them to http://isnoop.net/gmailomatic.php instead, where no human being stands between you and your Gmail. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org

[SLUG] S/Mime signatures

2004-11-29 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
[-- OpenSSL output follows (current time: Mon 29 Nov 2004 14:05:18 GMT) --] Error loading file /home/simon/.smime/ca-bundle.crt 11606:error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory:bss_file.c:104:fopen('/home/simon/.smime/ca-bundle.crt','r') 11606:error:2006D080:BIO routines:BIO_new

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu CDs available

2004-11-29 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Elliott-Brennan wrote: > >Thanks Jeff, you reminded me: > > > >I have five gmail accounts to give away too! > > Me too (10 invitations). Grr. If this has to go on, please take it to slug-chat. :-) - Jeff -- Ubuntu in MatarĂ³, Spain: December 5th-18th http://www.ubuntulinux.org/

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu CDs available

2004-11-29 Thread amos
Elliott-Brennan wrote: Thanks Jeff, you reminded me: I have five gmail accounts to give away too! :) Me too (10 invitations). --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] sco site

2004-11-29 Thread Keith Hopkins
moise lim wrote: anybody still awake this time of the nite??? check out http://www.sco.com boy oh boy.. defacement at it's best :) i'll try to save a copy of it .. but then it's better to check it out uself :) What, no "All Your Code Are Belong To Us"? Hehehe, I almost missed at first glance. smi

[SLUG] sco site

2004-11-29 Thread moise lim
anybody still awake this time of the nite??? check out http://www.sco.com boy oh boy.. defacement at it's best :) i'll try to save a copy of it .. but then it's better to check it out uself :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu CDs available

2004-11-29 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Thanks Jeff, you reminded me: I have five gmail accounts to give away too! :) That said, first five originals to the first five mailers - I'll reply to those who miss out - because it's polite to not keep you hanging on :)) *** Oof, I hope this doesn't turn out like gmail invites. Remember, th

Re: [SLUG] calendar app --> terminal

2004-11-29 Thread Amos Shapira
Thanks. I took a look there and it looks promising. Cheers, --Amos >From Phil Scarratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 29 Nov 2004: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Stuart Guthrie wrote: > > > >> lynx www.egroupware.org ? > > > > > > Speaking of which - is anyone aware of a good public web-based > > ca

Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?

2004-11-29 Thread Rod Butcher
Final straw was trying to set transparent background. I was presented with techno-gobbledegook. I could do this sort of thing with PS 4 with no training. I need this for website graphics. M$ got rich by assuming users are idiots and building apps and install routines that idiots could follow (harki

Re: [SLUG] calendar app --> terminal

2004-11-29 Thread Phil Scarratt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: lynx www.egroupware.org ? Speaking of which - is anyone aware of a good public web-based calendar service? (something a-la a public-access eGroupware server). Thanks, --Amos Don't yahoo or places like that offer some sort of calendaring? Might be wor

Re: [SLUG] calendar app --> terminal

2004-11-29 Thread amos
Stuart Guthrie wrote: lynx www.egroupware.org ? Speaking of which - is anyone aware of a good public web-based calendar service? (something a-la a public-access eGroupware server). Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http

Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?

2004-11-29 Thread Dean Hamstead
i would have to agree, i find gimp to be vastly superior. im sure there are some features photoshop has over gimp but like all applications 90% of users only use 10% of features. generally i have found adobe products to just work 'differently' most applications seem to follow a certain logic, but a

Re: [SLUG] talks last night

2004-11-29 Thread Jan Schmidt
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 10:43 +1100, Phil Scarratt wrote: > Ken Foskey wrote: > > I would like to thank the three people from last night. These were > > extremely interesting talks. > > > > We had a talk on IP telephony. This was great and the idea of a IP > > phone that plugs into my network for

Re: [SLUG] New SLUG member, not so new Linux user =P

2004-11-29 Thread Jan Schmidt
On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 15:29 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:50:32 +1100 > Stephen Merity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm obsessed with computer graphics (mainly 3D art/animation, and I use > > http://www.blender3d.org Blender, opensource 3D suite =P) . If you'd >

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu

2004-11-29 Thread Jeff Waugh
> However, it is well named Warthog. We kinda thought the first release would be "warty", so we said so. ;-) But it turned out better than we thought it would be... But yes, plenty of room for improvement, and connectivity and documentation are two areas we know that need quite a bit of work. T

[SLUG] Ubuntu

2004-11-29 Thread john gibbons
Three cheers for the people who put this together. A truly generous bunch. I admire them enormously. However, it is well named Warthog. It is a swine for a beginner who is trying to connect to the internet via cable modem as I am. Live CD no problem, it worked easily. But, full install: frustr