[SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread David Ward
Hi all, The company I have been working at now (for a bit over 6 mths now) is a largish (~$150Mil/year) national IT company deal in everything from Hardware, Software and services. But...very Windows centric much to my disappointment. Needless to say word has spread in the Office I am "..the Lin

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Michael Lake
David Ward wrote: Any tips or points for catching the attention of mostly IT 'dumb' ales staff ? I am thinking Beryl/Compiz, the mention of no spyware and viruses and the backing of big name companies like Dell, IBM and Novell. Beryl/Compiz is of no use to sales persons. Find out quickly what

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread david
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 17:30 +1000, David Ward wrote: > Hi all, > The Owner of the company has gave Linux thought and some how was tipped > over the edge recently and called a meeting with a few key staff members > hers and . me. > > So I am now doing a demo of Ubuntu in the Friday morning sal

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another nice touch is to do an #apt-get install - think of > something cute and useful. It can be pretty impressive. I don't think you would want to scare off people with a command line. If you want to show it, also back it up with how

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Michael Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Ward wrote: > > Any tips or points for catching the attention of mostly IT 'dumb' ales > > staff ? I am thinking Beryl/Compiz, the mention of no spyware and > > viruses and the backing of big name companies like Dell, IBM and Nov

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, David Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > The company I have been working at now (for a bit over 6 mths now) is a > largish (~$150Mil/year) national IT company deal in everything from > Hardware, Software and services. But...very Windows centric much to my > disappoi

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, David Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any tips or points for catching the attention of mostly IT 'dumb' ales > staff ? I am thinking Beryl/Compiz, the mention of no spyware and > viruses and the backing of big name companies like Dell, IBM and Novell. People will feel intim

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Russell Davie
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:30:45 +1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ward) wrote: > Hi all, > > The company I have been working at now (for a bit over 6 mths now) is a > largish (~$150Mil/year) national IT company deal in everything from > Hardware, Software and services. But...very Windows centric much

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Amos Shapira
On 17/04/07, Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, David Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any tips or points for catching the attention of mostly IT 'dumb' ales > staff ? I am thinking Beryl/Compiz, the mention of no spyware and > viruses and the backing of big nam

[SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread Sonia Hamilton
I've been using Telstra's Maxon CDMA for internet access while on the road - slow, semi-reliable. The Telstra phone bunnies are telling me it's time to upgrade to NextG. I've had a google around on Whirlpool, pulled up this Quozl's guide at [1], which seems to indicate it works; I'm interested in

Re: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread Adam Kennedy
I'm using the CDMA as well at the moment (2 Windows machines, 1 linux machine, 6 mac-based embedded devices), and I agree, slow and semi-reliable. At the moment I have to keep a permanent ping running to prevent the connection falling off. So while Quozl's information does seem sufficient, the

Re: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 2007.04.18 00:37 Adam Kennedy wrote: So nothing but good things so far with the network, at least in areas where you get the "good" towers. Haven't tried in country areas yet. Up our way (Mid North Coast) the response has been universal -- NextG is crap. Most who were coerced by Telstra int

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, My thoughts below: --- David Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any tips or points for catching the attention of > mostly IT 'dumb' ales > staff ? 1. A typical question will be, "can we dual-boot windoze and Ubuntu, initially?" Need to give them time to migrate. 2. Do you want to give a de

[SLUG] Linux users in Canberra and photography

2007-04-17 Thread Sharon Doig
Hi Slug, Is there a users group in Canberra? I am a photography student at ANU. Issues with colour management has come up recently in my work flow. I want to have some recommendations on a) how to calibrate my Flat Screen NVidia Monitor? b) what kind of screen monitor calibration tools should I

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. Mention the important of open documentation > standards (.odp or .pdf), and use of Openoffice for > their day-to-day activites. You should stress the importance of open standards, as well as open source, and how well they go toge

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
david wrote: On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 17:30 +1000, David Ward wrote: Hi all, The Owner of the company has gave Linux thought and some how was tipped over the edge recently and called a meeting with a few key staff members hers and . me. If you can convert time/effort for virus protectio

Re: [SLUG] Linux users in Canberra and photography

2007-04-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Sharon Doig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a users group in Canberra? CLUG: http://www.clug.org.au/ They meet at your very own university :) > I am a photography student at ANU. Issues with colour management has come > up recently in my work flow. I want to have some

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Amos Shapira
On 18/04/07, Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. Mention the important of open documentation > standards (.odp or .pdf), and use of Openoffice for > their day-to-day activites. You should stress the importance of open

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Lindsay Holmwood
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 05:33:35PM +1000, Michael Lake wrote: > > Beryl/Compiz is of no use to sales persons. Find out quickly what sofware > they are using and look around for some applications that they can use as > alternatives if they were running under Ubuntu. Demo those. Michael hit the

Re: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread Adam Kennedy
Robert Thorsby wrote: On 2007.04.18 00:37 Adam Kennedy wrote: So nothing but good things so far with the network, at least in areas where you get the "good" towers. Haven't tried in country areas yet. Up our way (Mid North Coast) the response has been universal -- NextG is crap. Most who were

Re: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Adam Kennedy wrote: > If we're talking mobile phones on NextG, I've switched from Vodafone > (paid by me) to NextG (paid by company) and the Motorola Razr > whateveritis phones (that I'm told are the best of a bad lot) are horrid. > > It has quite possible the worst user interface I've ever see

[SLUG] RE:Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread bill
Don't know about 3G or using mobile phone's for Net access, but I too had a CDMA phone ( transferred from GSM for better reception 3 years ago after moving home)., and none of the following is really relevant to the above post. When I received Telstra's email re discontinuance of CDMA I did a

Re: [SLUG] RE:Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:33:02 +1000 bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't know about 3G or using mobile phone's for Net access, but I too > had a CDMA phone ( transferred from GSM for better reception 3 years > ago after moving home)., and none of the following is really relevant > to the above

Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work

2007-04-17 Thread Lindsay Holmwood
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 12:07:08PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: > > >Be pragmatic and realistic as possible. Admit shortcomings Start small > >and focus on one area that you *know* you can excel in. Once you have > >success there, move up to something a bit bigger. > > There are two issues he

Re: [SLUG] An interesting thought on virus liability

2007-04-17 Thread Amos Shapira
On 18/04/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am thinking that I should recommend to my client that he maintains a dedicated PC under engineering control for the purpose of these transfers. What are your thoughts. Sounds reasonable. Maybe it's worth checking on pilot forums on how o

[SLUG] Re: [LINK] An interesting thought on virus liability

2007-04-17 Thread Rick Welykochy
Howard Lowndes wrote: My concern is that I don't believe the problem of possible database corruption in the transfer process due to an introduced virus has been addressed and given the potential for a corrupted database resulting in a catastrophic incident, I find the thought disturbing. I a

[SLUG] Amaya

2007-04-17 Thread Alan L Tyree
I'm running Debian Sid and trying to install Amaya. Well, easy to install, of course, but when I try to run it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ amaya 12:59:19: Deleted stale lock file '/home/alant/.amaya-alant'. Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.

recommended internet wireless (was: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?)

2007-04-17 Thread Sonia Hamilton
* On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 06:52:40AM +1000, Robert Thorsby wrote: > Up our way (Mid North Coast) the response has been universal -- NextG > is crap. Most who were coerced by Telstra into "converting" their > mobiles are trying to convert back to CDMA. But, since Telstra hasn't > listened to cust

Re: [SLUG] Amaya

2007-04-17 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 01:06:12PM +1000, Alan L Tyree wrote: > I'm running Debian Sid and trying to install Amaya. Well, easy to > install, of course, but when I try to run it: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ amaya > 12:59:19: Deleted stale lock file '/home/alant/.amaya-alant'. > Xlib: extension "GLX"

Re: [SLUG] Linux users in Canberra and photography

2007-04-17 Thread Peter Hardy
I shoot with analogue gear, and very rarely do any post-processing. But hopefully I can throw a few useful pointers out there. On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 23:29 +1000, Sharon Doig wrote: > I am a photography student at ANU. Issues with colour management has > come up recently in my work flow. I want to

Re: recommended internet wireless (was: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?)

2007-04-17 Thread Joseph Goncalves
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Sonia Hamilton wrote: > * On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 06:52:40AM +1000, Robert Thorsby wrote: > > Up our way (Mid North Coast) the response has been universal -- > > NextG is crap. Most who were coerced by Telstra into "converting" > > their mobiles are trying to convert back to CD

Re: recommended internet wireless (was: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?)

2007-04-17 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, Sonia Hamilton wrote: > Anyone got any thumbs up/down on wireless internet services for Linux > (eg unwired.com.au, iBurst)? The ethernet-based unwired modem "works" but the service is highly variable depending on your location. In some places it's great, others it

Re: recommended internet wireless (was: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?)

2007-04-17 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, Joseph Goncalves wrote: > By far the best value and service stability (compared to unwired) I have > found is with 3. $49.95 for 1GB of downloads on a HDPSA connection. > Good coverage and linux compatible (2.6.19 kernel onwards however > simple patch needed to iden

Re: recommended internet wireless (was: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?)

2007-04-17 Thread Zhasper
On 18/04/07, Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This one time, at band camp, Joseph Goncalves wrote: > By far the best value and service stability (compared to unwired) I have > found is with 3. $49.95 for 1GB of downloads on a HDPSA connection. > Good coverage and linux compatible (2.

[SLUG] RE:Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?

2007-04-17 Thread bill
Hi Alan Thanks for the link. May be the way to go for me when Mum and I next need to top-up. Bill so that it now costs $15/month even if you don't use the damned things at all! I haven't tried this yet, but it looks very interesting: http://www.ecomtel.com.au/cgi-bin/go/web?rm=mobile&key=pin

[SLUG] Re: recommended internet wireless

2007-04-17 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Sonia Hamilton wrote: Anyone got any thumbs up/down on wireless internet services for Linux (eg unwired.com.au, iBurst)? The ethernet-based unwired modem "works" but the service is highly variable depending on your location. In some pla

Re: recommended internet wireless (was: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?)

2007-04-17 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, Zhasper wrote: >Not just in Sydney Metro - IRCing from a bus halfway between Byron Bay and >the Gold Coast is quite useful[1] too :) The rates aren't quite so sweet when you're outside 3's "Broaband Zones". $1.65/megabyte. The "Broadband Zones" are only met

Re: recommended internet wireless (was: [SLUG] Bigpond NextG on Linux (Ubuntu)?)

2007-04-17 Thread Zhasper
On 18/04/07, Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This one time, at band camp, Zhasper wrote: >Not just in Sydney Metro - IRCing from a bus halfway between Byron Bay and >the Gold Coast is quite useful[1] too :) The rates aren't quite so sweet when you're outside 3's "Broaband Z

[SLUG] P2P question re Stealthed Ports

2007-04-17 Thread bill
I have emule set up and working OK - I just downloaded a Linux .iso torrent without problem though it was slower than I think it should be. I do realise that the download speed depends upon my settings. connection speed and number of available "seeders" I have the appropriate ports "forwarded

Re: [SLUG] Running Google Earth in Ubuntu

2007-04-17 Thread Ken Caldwell
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 21:10 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:05 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 06:05 +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > fglrx won't give you direct rendering on 9200 whatsoever.. they stopped > > > supporting that card a long time ago.. > > >

Re: [SLUG] P2P question re Stealthed Ports

2007-04-17 Thread Zhasper
On 18/04/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Usually "stealthed" means that the ports are being filtered at the gateway and that incoming packets are being dropped rather than a Reset being sent, where they would be seen as Closed. I suspect that you have a firewall problem on your ro

[SLUG] Re: recommended internet wireless

2007-04-17 Thread Del
Not just in Sydney Metro - IRCing from a bus halfway between Byron Bay and the Gold Coast is quite useful[1] too :) What's the offshore coverage like? I'm sort of thinking about the NextG concept with the new tower/software upgrades they are planning later in the year, because apparently that

Re: [SLUG] Running Google Earth in Ubuntu

2007-04-17 Thread Peter Hardy
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 16:14 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: > I have investigated this a bit further and extracted more information > using glxinfo. *snip* > The problem seems to be:- > > libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so > libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so failed > (/usr/li