RE: Comments on CapeClear software?

2002-01-30 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
(I apologize for advertising on the Apache SOAP list, but Simon did ask...) Simon, I suggest you also look at Systinet WASP. WASP Developer for JBuilder is free. It's a plug-in that's tightly integrated with JBuilder. (A plug-in is also available for NetBeans and Forte, plus there are command l

Re: Installing apache soap and axis?

2002-01-30 Thread Sam Ruby
Walter G. Da Cruz wrote: > > I have Apache SOAP 2.2 up and running on my Linux box. Is there any > issues/concern if I also install Apache Axis on the same machine? I will > appreciate any help on this. Make them separate webapps, and they run fine. In fact, I run the latest of both at http://n

Installing apache soap and axis?

2002-01-30 Thread Walter G. da Cruz
Quick question: I have Apache SOAP 2.2 up and running on my Linux box. Is there any issues/concern if I also install Apache Axis on the same machine? I will appreciate any help on this. Thank you, Walter -- "If we were logical, the future would be bleak | indeed.

RE: RPC Vs Messaging

2002-01-30 Thread Rebecca Dias
Eric, The IONA XMLBus implements JAXM and SOAP with Attachments and has been used by Microsoft as the reference implementation for .NET interoperability. The next drop of the XMLBus Technology Preview (Preview of functionality that is productized by IONA Orbix E2A platform) will be on XMLBus.com

Comments on CapeClear software?

2002-01-30 Thread Tom O'Leary
Simon, We've done some work at a large insurance firm using both CapeStudio and CapeConnect in a WebLogic 6.1 & WLE environment. Similar to your use case, we were able to make our WL EJB's & WLE IDL available for use in a Java & VB client environment using CapeStudio. Out of the vendors that we

RE: Comments on CapeClear software?

2002-01-30 Thread Hecking, Dirck J
It is undeniably the best web service implementation/solution for the needs you have spec'd below. I have been using their CapeConnect version 2.02 since July of last year. Their support and advice regarding the web service space has been incredibly valuable. It is worth the money of you are think

RE: RPC Vs Messaging

2002-01-30 Thread Dahnke, Eric
We're using the JAXM package to generate SOAP Messages with code out of the JAXM package. And I've been told one can (will be able to) use JAXM with Axis. Something like the following. MessageFactory mf = MessageFactory.newInstance(); SOAPMessage msg = mf.createMessage(); SOAPPart sp = msg.getS

RPC Vs Messaging

2002-01-30 Thread Krishnamurthy, Ramanathan
Is this distinction necessary ? Isn't messaging a special case of RPC. I recently moved from SOAP_2_2 to Axis. And axis doesn't seem to differentiate the two. Thanks for any insight. ram Ramanathan Krishn

Comments on CapeClear software?

2002-01-30 Thread Wallis, Simon (Toronto - 22 Front)
Hi there, Has anyone out there used CapeConnect and CapeStudio by CapeClear? I'm evaluating the software and would like to hear some comments from the user community. We want to deploy web services (written mostly as Java classes), for use in a Java, VB, and ASP environment. We're using: -Window

RE: Implementation-independent services...

2002-01-30 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
Shawn, I'm not sure that I understand your terminology, but my answer assumes that your term "object inputs" refers to the SOAP RPC style and "XML inputs" refers to the SOAP Document style. A SOAP service should be implementation-independent regardless of whether you are passing XML documents (d

Re: When using rpc-based and when message-bassed SOAP?

2002-01-30 Thread cmalley
Look in the mailing list archives. I posted links to an example sometime within the past 4 months. If you can't find it, see Chapter 13 of "Java & XML Programming" from O'Reilly, which is all about message-style SOAP. -Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hello, >I'm trying my first steps in SOAP an

When using rpc-based and when message-bassed SOAP?

2002-01-30 Thread Oliver Kowalke
Hello, I'm trying my first steps in SOAP and Java (also .NET). I've made a simple "Hello World"-app with .NET (should work as server :^) ). The client should run in TomCat 4.0.1. As I could read in the Apache-SOAP-docu the communication can be implemented as rpc-based or as message-based. I've no

access to ServletContext

2002-01-30 Thread Chris Malley
I know that I can get my SOAP serlvet's ServletContext by adding SOAPContext as an arg to my Java methods. Eg: void mymethod( SOAPContext context ) { HttpServletRequest request = (HttpServletRequest)SOAPContext.getProperty(Constants.BAG_HTTPSERVLETREQUEST); // etc. } Is there a

Re: Implementation-independent services...

2002-01-30 Thread John Mani
> The original architect specified that the objects should be passed in as > XML instead of objects to support a non-Java SOAP service implementations. Well, one of SOAP's key features is the ability to pass around objects (actually data structures) in an interoperable manner. > It seems to me t

AW: Implementation-independent services...

2002-01-30 Thread Stefan Henke
Hi, your idea is right. You should define an interface in wsdl for your service. Everybody who wants can download this definition and create a soap-service with any language he wants. Addiotionally, you can use uddi to discover the implementations and advertise your interface. But this is a bit

Implementation-independent services...

2002-01-30 Thread hughes_shawn
This is probably a pretty basic question but I'm not sure I should be implementing what the specification for the project defines... I am creating a system where different development groups are implementing a pre-defined SOAP service. It's possible that the service implementors will not use Jav

Re: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread John Mani
> There is a more basic problem here > Actually generally web-services architecture doesnt have a notion of session > maintenance. > so calling 'open' before 'action' sort of doesnt make sense in case of > web-services. The SOAP protocol doesn't yet have such a concept, however an application

RE: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Tony Hong
To add to what Anne is saying here >From a practical standpoint, many toolkits out there - some *very* widely used - strictly require WSDL files for client configuration / proxy generation, so although WSDL is not required by the SOAP protocol per se, if you are interested in having your serv

Re: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread James M Snell
Interface definition is certainly the largest chunk, but WSDL is extensible, allowing rich descriptions to be added to the core. While the core specification "doesn't provide complete information for technically correct use of the web service", such information could be easily added to WSDL.

Re: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Radovan Janecek
Not exactly. IDL doesn't tell you how to talk to a service. IDL contains only the type information. WSDL says you what transport protocol you have to use, how to 'bind' SOAP to this transport protocol, etc. Radovan - Original Message - From: "Frank Sauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL

RE: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Gary Feldman
I was only pointing out something that I think all programmers know, but then tend to forget when it's their job to do it (myself included). And that's that it's rarely easy to use an interface properly based only on the function signatures, whether those signatures are JavaDoc based or WSDL base

RE: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Frank Sauer
in other words, a verbose IDL :-) Frank -Original Message- From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: WSDL? Gary, Okay. Perhaps I am overstating things a little bit. WSDL doesn't describe semantic in

RE: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
Gary, Okay. Perhaps I am overstating things a little bit. WSDL doesn't describe semantic information. It doesn't describe application semantics (e.g., you must call "open" before "action"). It doesn't describe business semantics (payment terms, service level agreements, etc.). It doesn't des

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Re: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Paramdeep Singh
Hi Gary, > Let's not overstate things. It provides enough information to > generate proxy signatures. It doesn't provide complete > information for technically correct use of the web service. WSDL does provide enough information to invoke functions of any web-service. And the main benefit is t

client call problem

2002-01-30 Thread Jasper Harding
I am getting the following error when using the client(Address Book). The soap server is installed on iplanet. Please help! Ouch, the call failed: Fault Code = SOAP-ENV:Server.Exception: Fault String = org.apache.soap.server.http.ServerHTTPUtils.readEnvelopeFromRequest(Ljavax/xml/parse

RE: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Gary Feldman
> From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:37 PM ... > A WSDL file provides a complete technical description of your > web service. It describes Let's not overstate things. It provides enough information to generate proxy signatures. It doesn

APPLET client for WebService problem

2002-01-30 Thread ashish ranjan
Has anybody developed an Applet client for a webservice using apache-soap and xerces?? Does it work on Internet Explorer 6.0 without changing the code for the library? (i changed the part as suggested in the mail below). If code was modified, please let me know what changes has to be made. Thank

RE: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
Just to be a little more explicit... > > 3) Are these files always needed when offering a web service via SOAP? You are never required to provide a WSDL file. But if you want to "offer" this service (and by "offer" I assume that you intend to make it avilable to a variety of clients) then you n

Re: WSDL?

2002-01-30 Thread Aczel Csilla
> 3) Are these files always needed when offering a web service via SOAP? WSDL files are very useful if you want to publish your web service into some UDDI registry. BR, Csilla