The thing I found using one stick is that you can feed in an input that
would cut your performance, like a touch of down when you are wanting to
give it rudder.
The big thing you need to do is find out if two or one stick is better
for you for control, I ended up going to two sticks and found
I don't think that 2-meter is in jeopardy, though I would like to make a
few points to reinforce it's importance in the overall soaring world:
1. This hobby needs more youth(s) to continue to grow.
2. Youths (and many new soarers) don't have the experience or the money
to fly big ships.
3.
can I get an AMEN!
I had the privilege to sign Lee's LSF paperwork for a landing, he is a great
kid with a great group supporting him.
It can never be said enough WELL DONE Ed and GUYS!!
Harry
-Original Message-
From: Ben Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01,
all we need is more Lee's, right?
I have found to get more Lees you need more Ed's.
Great Job Ed!
John D. Frugé
Webmaster MRCC
www.modestorcclub.com
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From: Harry DeBoer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring Soaring@airage.com;
I should note that the simple act of putting an eye-catching flyer in
the window of our local hobby shop drew Lee and his family to one of our
events.. and the rest is history. Every little bit helps. ;)
John D Frugé wrote:
all we need is more Lee's, right?
I have found to get more Lees
Now you have to hope he never discovers girls, cars or sports. We have done
the same thing several times and eventually the find something else. One can
only hope they will return. Doug Barry and I had this discussion at the
banquet.
We have a family with three very eager young guy's. The oldest
A prominent Midwest sailplane flyer contested a 2M only for a full year. He
flew it in 2M (obviously) and in unlimited. His words to me were something
like this: If you can win with a 2M, you can wing with anything, (meaning
and unlimited plane since he doesn't fly DLG.)
I'd have to agree with
All this talk of two meter prompts me to send out a reminder for the WMSS 2
Meter Soaring
Champoinships.
26th Annual Midwest, 2-Meter RC Soaring Championships
August 26 and 27, 2006 - Grand Rapids, MI
2-Meter Championships
Awards for 1 to 5 for each day of the contest
Two Day Overall Winner
Ok, lets dispel the cost issue. There is a minor difference in cost for
a RES two meter vs RES unlimited. either can be inexpensive or expensive
(AVA like)
There is a minor diff in cost for a full house 2m vs a full house unlimited.
apples to apples.
there is a larger diff between a res and
(apologies if this message show up more than once, I'm having trouble
posting due to changes in my default email address)
I need a Kennedy Supra left wing tip - badly crushed it when wing platform
separated from fuselage a couple of weeks before the NATs.
Ideally it would be carbon to match
This note is to add one point to the discussion on rudder-elevator
flying.
There is a tendency for R/E models to pitch up when a turn is
initiated due to gyroscopic precession. The rudder initiates a yaw
rate, giving a yaw angle. This angle couples with the wing's
dihedral angle to
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From: Blaine Beron-Rawdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is a tendency for R/E models to pitch up when a turn is
initiated due to gyroscopic precession...
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Would it do any good to rake the rudder hinge line forward to counteract this?
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Jeff,
I may be way off base (and I'm sure you all will let me know) but I thing a
revival of the one design low cost model contest would do more than anything
we are now doing to get new and young pilots into the hobby. Even if it was
a Spirit, Vista, or Fling 2M ARF type of model that would be
New, never flown, with Multiplex digitals (red ones)
throughout. Spotless, blue bottoms, white top. $1400 plus shipping.
Matt
Includes charger, additional sticks, original box,
instructions.
Buyer pays shipping.
Matt
Ed should be congratulated for encouraging Lee. My sermon on Sunday was about encouraging one another, and I put a picture of Ed and Lee at the flightline on the video screen in the sanctuary when I was making a point about encouraging young people to try something new. Dana Harry DeBoer
I guess we got a BIG
AMEN for that one!
I do agree Dana, anyone
who gives of them selves to help others shouldbe
recognized.
Is this not what LSF is
all about?
Harry
-Original Message-From: Dana Flemming
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006
1:22 PMTo:
Couldn't agree more with many of the comments about 2M (with 1 or 2
minor exceptions). I like this class for a lot of reasons, most of which
have been articulated, and have tried quite a few of the kits that are
out there. IMHO the best ones were the 2M Super-V, the 2M Duck and the
Laser 2M.
We tried this a while back (with a Gentle Lady). Things were looking up.
We had some new members join and a lot of the club members picked up a GL
and got her ready to fly. Unfortunately we seemed to have a problem finding
a good day to organize the contest/fun fly. We would have a couple of
Hi Guys,
I have been out of the TD scene for a while concentrating on mostly slope
flying but now have the bug for a TD plane. I am interested in NIB or RTF
planes. RTF Plane must be in Very Good to Excellent Condition and have
quality servos, i.e. JR, Airtronics, MPX, Volz, etc. Let me
I've got a NIB yellow/red Tragi 705 X-tail with UHM carbon wings, plus I
also have the electric fuselage for it (very rare in the US). For details
see http://www.f3x.com
$1500 shipped anywhere in US.
Don
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From: Pat McCleave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday,
Dave,
What a great post. Thank you. You're right on about
the MH32 being a poor choice for a 2M section. I don't
like it for open class TD either. Drela has done a
good deal of optimization on sections for us, and he's
got a pretty good idea of what works in the real
world. Definitely a good idea
I have received a lot of request for info on the Tugs we will be using for our event so I am posting to the group. Here is info on two of the tugs that will be at our event. At this time I do not have info on the third one.First off this is not a cheap endeavor. Brian Chan is currently
I noticed a 2M with Drela Derivative airfoils at Sal's site:
http://nesail.com/detail.php?productID=5125
Has anyone seen it in person yet? Looks promising.
On 8/1/06, Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave,
What a great post. Thank you. You're right on about
the MH32 being a poor choice
At last! An interesting discussion. Reminds me of the good old days
or RCSE from about 10 years ago. I have a notebook full of posts
about stability and control from1995 to1998. Lots more interesting
than what happened, or didn't happen, at the latest contest. I had a
lot of success
With response from Ryan below.
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From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:20 PM
To: Ryan Woebkenberg
Subject: RE: [LOFT] [RCSE] Further 2-Meters thoughts
Ryan,
Some good ideas! My only thing is that I would like to use the KISS method
and
Mark. . your Genie package and plans are on the way, but please ping me so I
have your e-mail address in case I want to communicate about something.
Keep in touch.
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Actually, I think, given the AG airfoils, optimum aspect ratio is
probably a function of your vision. Given very good vision and very good
skill with composites, optimum aspect ratio is probably upwards of 12,
as in the original Agea 2M. More realistically, maybe a bit over 11.
Wing loading
OK, so I'm watching two Cooper's hawks cavorting in and around my lilac
bushes. One grabs a dead branch from the ground and parades around and the
other prances around and opens its wings. I watched this strange activity
for about an hour then looked up the habits of Cooper's hawks. Turns
On Aug 1, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Jared wrote:
We tried this a while back (with a Gentle Lady).
--snip--
We made the rules pretty simple. Pretty much a stock Gentle Lady,
with
minimal kit bashing allowed.
--snip--
I think it's a good idea, and I hope the club here decides to pick
it
If I want a challenge, I fly F3b. 2M is nonexistant on the east coast.
As long as they stick 2M in the middle of the week, I'll fly it to pass
the time.
I'd rather see 2 days of RES than 2M.
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Paul Emerson wrote:
I noticed a 2M with Drela Derivative airfoils at Sal's site:
http://nesail.com/detail.php?productID=5125
Has anyone seen it in person yet? Looks promising.
Looks pretty ugly to me. A small fin in front of a huge stab. They
should have done it the other way around.
Daryl (and list),
Thank you for the comments on 2M design. Your input is extremely
valuable as both a designer and competitor. The stability issue is well put.
Just to clarify aspect ratio a bit, some design work was done 2 years
ago that suggests optimal AR for 2M is somewhere between 8 and
From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A small fin in front of a huge stab. They
should have done it the other way around.
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That's a free-flighter for ya.
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hi,
i'm looking for a small vac to use while dremeling. I want something
small and quiet that i can hold in one hand and Dremel with the other
to catch some of that epoxy dust.
something like they use at the dentist.
i have a 1hp ShopVac that i tried and works great, but just way to noisy.
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