cool-- got any pictures?
tgm
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From: David Register [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:57 AM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] 2M Re-Visited
As a diversion from the LSF angst, I'd like to briefly resurrect an old
thread. Shortly
In a message dated 9/6/2006 2:07:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah, it
probably won't take a pedal-to-the-metal-full-bore-stomp-on-it winch
launch.
Dr Mark D'sAllegro Lite sure as heck does! (awesome to watch!).
Good Lift!
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Cc: soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] 2M Rambles
Two meters would likely be competitive with 3M ships?
Just ask Bobby McGowan if two meter ships are competitive right now with 3M
ships.
I think the answer would be yes and I think DP would even
have to say Bobbys two meter
Two meters would likely be competitive with 3M
ships? Just ask Bobby McGowan if two meter ships are competitive right now
with 3M ships.
I think the answer would be yes and I think DP
would even have to say Bobbys two meter is reasonably competitive with 3meter,
even larger than 3 meter
H Marta Can you give a little more detail to a 2m fan?CheersDavid [Aeroplane] LeighOn 13/08/2006, at 2:40 PM, Marta Zavala wrote:Two meters would likely be competitive with 3M ships? Just ask Bobby McGowan if two meter ships are competitive right now with 3M ships.I think the answer would be yes
Daryl,
Can I recommend a simple name, 2D. I'm sure there was a double D
girl is in the past. Of course if you've hung around Southern Calif
maybe 2M is not outta the question. :-)
Steve Meyer
LSF IV
SOAR
At 02:54 PM 8/1/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:
...
I'm going to do a new 2M in the
I've written on this topic before, but I think it might be good to repeat it.
The reason that most 2m gliders fly like crap (quoting one CRRC flier),
is that they are WAY too heavy for their span. Consider a log-log plot
of weight versus span. The following three points lie roughly
on a
From: Mark Drela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If we were all launching on 12v winches with correspondingly lighter lines,
the light 2m gliders would likely be competitive with the 3m ships,
because the 2m ships would launch higher. Their maneuverability
and lower speeds on landing is another advantage.
Be careful launching the Allegro - it has a weakness that I've seen and
heard of from a couple flyers: it's not winchproof when faced with
negative G's.
Just wanted to put that out there before you end up like me (currently
finishing up rebuilding my Allegro's center section).
My (2nd) worst
From: Douglas, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be careful launching the Allegro - it has a weakness that I've seen and
heard of from a couple flyers: it's not winchproof when faced with
negative G's.
Mine isn't built-up, it's composite. I've been launching the hell out of it for
4
Dave,
What a great post. Thank you. You're right on about
the MH32 being a poor choice for a 2M section. I don't
like it for open class TD either. Drela has done a
good deal of optimization on sections for us, and he's
got a pretty good idea of what works in the real
world. Definitely a good idea
I noticed a 2M with Drela Derivative airfoils at Sal's site:
http://nesail.com/detail.php?productID=5125
Has anyone seen it in person yet? Looks promising.
On 8/1/06, Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave,
What a great post. Thank you. You're right on about
the MH32 being a poor choice
At last! An interesting discussion. Reminds me of the good old days
or RCSE from about 10 years ago. I have a notebook full of posts
about stability and control from1995 to1998. Lots more interesting
than what happened, or didn't happen, at the latest contest. I had a
lot of success
If I want a challenge, I fly F3b. 2M is nonexistant on the east coast.
As long as they stick 2M in the middle of the week, I'll fly it to pass
the time.
I'd rather see 2 days of RES than 2M.
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Paul Emerson wrote:
I noticed a 2M with Drela Derivative airfoils at Sal's site:
http://nesail.com/detail.php?productID=5125
Has anyone seen it in person yet? Looks promising.
Looks pretty ugly to me. A small fin in front of a huge stab. They
should have done it the other way around.
From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A small fin in front of a huge stab. They
should have done it the other way around.
=
That's a free-flighter for ya.
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The 2M Image is a lot of fun. I bent my wingrod at Nats last year
launching the ever loving piss out of it, and the dihederal I put in it via
abuse it turned out I liked. I replaced the wingrod from one I got from
Don Richmond that had some dihederal bent into it properly and I like it
that
Well! I guess there will be a glut of 2 Meters for sale at the NATS then.
I will bring my 2M Super V ready to fly. Complete with Hoopes wing
plugs. Futaba Rx. Guaranteed to thermal or your money back. A seasoned
competitor. Only flown in contests. :-)
And a special NATS deal! $10
I have been thinking about this point for a few days. There is a huge emphasis
on handlaunch, which is even *more* difficult and expensive than many 2M ships.
So the answer cannot be that 2M planes are too difficult to fly, cause we all
know that handlaunch offers really short flights even with
Hi Daryl
Would 1.9meter and a T-tail be better.!!!
Peter
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Gordy,
I enjoyed competing with the EVO HLG he put out, I
still toss it around and use it as a backup at
contests even though it's worn out. I have always
been a fan of Marks stuff, they fly easy without the
worries of bad habbits. I know his son competed quite
a while and did well. I haven't
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-Ben
George Gillburg wrote:
If anybody remembers the Challenger 2m sailplane that was published a few
years back by RCM and then kitted by Precision Model Products,
: Monday, May 15, 2000 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] 2M Molded Sloper in BMW Ad
I saw the ad last night and the model is in a tree, the father and son
climb
the tree and then throw it out from the top of the tree. ...strange! It
did capture MY attention, I think it was more of a full house open
I saw the ad last night and the model is in a tree, the father and son climb
the tree and then throw it out from the top of the tree. ...strange! It
did capture MY attention, I think it was more of a full house open class
sailplane, V tail, probably molded construction.
A great ad for our
Did you winch or highstart launch?
Winch - works best if you really lay into it. You'd need to back off on the
launch settings for the hi-start.
Is your CG at spec?
Yes - it's very neutral.
What battery size?
600mAH - AE cells
Your suggestion to move the towhook aft is a good one.
Rob--
Is this the DJAerotech Spectre?
--Bill
On Fri, 12 May 2000 14:07:28 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you winch or highstart launch?
Winch - works best if you really lay into it. You'd need to back off on the
launch settings for the hi-start.
Is your CG at spec?
Yes - it's very
Just purchased a 2M Chrysalis from the DJ Aerotech booth at the Toledo
Expo, and am curious if anyone here has built one, and what your
construction experience was.
Just finished my Chrysalis 2M. It's a very well documented and complete
kit; an easy build; mine looks fabulous (and it's the
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