RE: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Szabolcs Matefy
Video has been deleted... From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Gregory Ducatel Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 4:17 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview Hi, Sorry

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Rob Wuijster
video has been deleted? Rob \/-\/\/ On 29-5-2013 4:16, Gregory Ducatel wrote: Hi, Sorry for the late reply... So since even in better resolution it is hard to read the setting panel, I have done an extra video: http://vimeo.com/67174304 just to show the settings

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread balazs kiss
I'm throwing one more question into this conversation.. I'd like to know if 1. when you use the new path tracing method, do you have the same speedups when you turn on depth of field as you'd have with the REYES method? Cause that's a bit of a problem with arnold atm. 2. And I guess I know the

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Christopher
I got to watch it :) blah :) ::Christopher Rob Wuijster wrote: video has been deleted? Rob \/-\/\/ On 29-5-2013 4:16, Gregory Ducatel wrote: Hi, Sorry for the late reply... So since even in better resolution it is hard to read the setting panel, I have

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Gregory Ducatel
Hi, The video is back sorry about that: http://vimeo.com/67206997 ( rendering option classroom ) Regarding depth of field, displacement and motion blur the impact between REYES and Path Tracing isn't drastic or anything unacceptable.. Cheers, Greg On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Christopher

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Christopher
I like how the tiles render so fast, Mental Ray is not like this. ::Christopher Gregory Ducatel wrote: Hi, The video is back sorry about that: http://vimeo.com/67206997 ( rendering option classroom ) Regarding depth of field, displacement and motion blur the impact between REYES and Path

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Griswold
They offer a free dual-core license too, which I think is pretty cool rather than having watermarks or size limitations. (though the wonky licensing scheme still seems unnecessary) It's great to see all these different render engines being available for this lowly particle system (hahaha!).

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Ciaran Moloney
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: They offer a free dual-core license too, which I think is pretty cool rather than having watermarks or size limitations. (though the wonky licensing scheme still seems unnecessary) I wouldn't say

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Aghiles Kheffache
1. when you use the new path tracing method, do you have the same speedups when you turn on depth of field as you'd have with the REYES method? Cause that's a bit of a problem with arnold atm. Before replying to this question, one remark: in 3Delight, increasing the AA samples doesn't

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Nour Almasri
The video look Promising Aghiles , keep up the rendering engain coming to Softimage , waiting the trail of the version 4.

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-29 Thread Gregory Ducatel
Here is a quick update regarding the hair/fur... http://vimeo.com/67238243 Only 1 million hair on my laptop, the draw back is that Softimage is slow to export that many hair strand... On my workstation I was able to perform the same test with 20 millions hair strands. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at

3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Gregory Ducatel
Hi Guys, In case you did not had a chance to look into the next version of 3dfs, here is a little test I did. http://vimeo.com/66105781 Cheers, Greg

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Looks interesting Greg. Two questions: 1. What is your hardware setup ? 2. Could you upload it in higher resolution so we can read the menus? MB Den 28. maj 2013 kl. 15:37 skrev Gregory Ducatel gduca...@gmail.com: Hi Guys, In case you did not had a chance to look into the next version of

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Christopher
Is it as fast as Arnold :) ? Morten Bartholdy wrote: Looks interesting Greg. Two questions: 1. What is your hardware setup ? 2. Could you upload it in higher resolution so we can read the menus? MB Den 28. maj 2013 kl. 15:37 skrev Gregory Ducatel gduca...@gmail.com: Hi Guys,

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Leonard Koch
That entirely depends on the use-case. Arnold is in faster most raycasting situations, but 3Delight will be faster for for example motion graphics or character animations with unrealistic shading. And even then it can very much depend on the complexity of the scene and on of what kind that

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Alan Fregtman
I haven't tried 3Delight, but Arnold is **way** too good. My gut feeling is Arnie is probably faster overall. That said, they're entirely different rendering architectures so it's not fair to compare. 3Delight is (as I understand it) renderman-compliant which implies they probably use the Reyes

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Ciaran Moloney
True, it originated as a REYES renderer, but now it may be better thought of as a hybrid renderer taking advantage of both techniques when needed. I like working with Arnold too, but I don't think fast renders are one of its strongest selling points. Ciaran On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alan

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
I thought Development on 3Dlight got bricked on account of some American copyright/patent law pertaining to algorithms ? As a Ray-tracer it will never beat Arnold at its own game, but maybe it has other tricks up its sleeve... I've always heard that despite its legacy in the industry PRman is a

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Aghiles Kheffache
Hello Ciaran, Next release of 3Delight for Sotimage is a path-tracer. REYES is optional. (You can select one or the other). The path-tracer introduces some novel sampling techniques, such as nice sampling across multiple bounces, high quality environment sampling (no need to blur your maps)

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Alan Fregtman
Very cool! I stand corrected. :) On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Aghiles Kheffache aghil...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Ciaran, Next release of 3Delight for Sotimage is a path-tracer. REYES is optional. (You can select one or the other). The path-tracer introduces some novel sampling

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Steven Caron
never say never :) On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: As a Ray-tracer it will never beat Arnold at its own game, but maybe it has other tricks up its sleeve...

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Ciaran Moloney
Great! Looking forward to it. Ciaran On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Aghiles Kheffache aghil...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Ciaran, Next release of 3Delight for Sotimage is a path-tracer. REYES is optional. (You can select one or the other). The path-tracer introduces some novel sampling

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Daniel Kim
Wow. Looks amazing @_@. I used to use 3delight for production till 3.1 and changed to Arnold, but I like to try it again. Do you know when it is going to be released? I still can see only 3.1.17 version is available on their website. Cheers Daniel On 29/05/2013, at 1:37 AM, Gregory Ducatel

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Stefan Kubicek
Thanks for the video and heads up Gregory, it's refreshing to see that 3DL for Softimage is still actively being developed, and from the looks of the change list relentlessly being bug-fixed and optimized too. You say this is a 4.0 preview, in how far does it differ from the latest official

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Aghiles Kheffache
@Aghiles: You need to advertise your product more, I didn't even know you implemented incremental updates! Yes, we are working on that. The website/docs/communication will change so that it becomes easier to see what's going on in the team and with the products. I suppose you are doing

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Aghiles Kheffache
Wow. Looks amazing @_@. I used to use 3delight for production till 3.1 and changed to Arnold, but I like to try it again. Do you know when it is going to be released? I still can see only 3.1.17 version is available on their website. It will be release somewhere between now and mid-June

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Daniel Kim
Hey Aghiles. Of course I like to try. What should I do to try the new one? Daniel On 29/05/2013, at 10:04 AM, Aghiles Kheffache aghil...@gmail.commailto:aghil...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. Looks amazing @_@. I used to use 3delight for production till 3.1 and changed to Arnold, but I like to try it

Re: 3delight for softimage 4.0 preview

2013-05-28 Thread Christopher
Good comparison, I shall remember that :) Arnold vs Mental Ray, the battle wages on. Does 3Delight require shader dev or can a small to individual get what needs to be done fast. Everyone doesn't use Arnold, some are able to get there hands on it for whatever reason, excluding illegal methods.