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2014-03-17 Thread Emilio Hernandez
So we wrongly called it a rumor. It was a "pre-briefing"... Now it makes sense all this "innovation" with booleans and non destructive bevel super tools of the future -- --- Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation.

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2014-03-17 Thread Matt Lind
image@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. 21+ years of development experience you have and you don't even have the simplest faith in Autodesk that they can allow Soft and Maya to run on one single machine at the

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-17 Thread olivier jeannel
/And yet, that burden of responsibility doesn't seem to have been reflected in the manner in which Softimage is currently being EOL'd. I can't think of a more brutal scenario - immediate cessation of development; no prior warning; no safe-harbour alternative option; no pre-planning or understan

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2014-03-17 Thread Alastair Hearsum
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2014-03-17 Thread Alastair Hearsum
Julian Great. Articulate a Alastair Hearsum Head of 3d GLASSWORKS 33/34 Great Pulteney Street London W1F 9NP +44 (0)20 7434 1182 glassworks.co.uk Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk (Company registered in England with number 0

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2014-03-17 Thread Stephen Davidson
I am just a freelancer, but I have never worked on a "Movie" or a "Game" in over 20 years. Only Commercial, Corporate, and Broadcast (some Web videos as well) A show of hands? On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Dan Yargici wrote: > Hi Chris, I've had to ignore the list for the last week for pers

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2014-03-17 Thread Ed Manning
Excellent point, Dan! Maybe start a new thread with this topic?

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2014-03-17 Thread Dan Yargici
Hi Chris, I've had to ignore the list for the last week for personal reasons, so apologies if this has been mentioned somewhere across the myriad threads... I keep hearing yourself, Maurice, Graham, and everyone else from Autodesk who have stuck their heads above the parapet continuously mention m

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-16 Thread Chris Vienneau
lto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. "We invite anyone here and many of you have taken up our offer to contribute and it is up to us to show that we are delivering over the next two years

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-16 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
I don't know if it's clear, but AD already reverted the decision of timebombing licences tied to a suite, so you already get a perpetual concurrent licence of Soft if you downgrade to Maya. The problem, and something worth fighting for IMO, is expanding, since no new seats will be available for pu

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2014-03-16 Thread Martin
Selling SI is something that has already been discussed thousands of times since the EOL announcement and it is clear that it will never going to happen. I guess if someone offer 10x what Autodesk paid may have a chance to but that will never happen so let's stop with that topic. SI is never go

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-16 Thread Graham Bell
Julian, I’m hardly the best person to answer that. Besides I think Maurice may have already responded to suggestions of selling Softimage. It might seem like simple and easy thing to do, but unfortunately things don’t always work like that. On 16/03/2014 08:47, "Julian Johnson" wrote: >On 15/0

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-16 Thread Julian Johnson
On 15/03/2014 17:44, Graham Bell wrote: I¹ve absolutely no doubt, but in all the time I¹ve demoed Softimage, even pre-AD, there was never anyone who didn¹t like the software, tech or couldn¹t see the potential benefits. However despite this, it wasn¹t easy for people to simply adopt. We could eas

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2014-03-16 Thread Adam Sale
com [ >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Rob Chapman [ >> tekano@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:43 AM >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free >&g

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread skuby
Well, seeing the responses from AD officials in this post, it looks like we won't be getting even FBX/Mental Ray updates to extend Softimage's retirement past 2016, it was only a defeatist's last wish anyways, but I had to try. I know Max, Maya and Softimage, I've spent some many dedicated years i

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Steven Caron
i worked next to him for 8 months recently, between gravity and him winning that oscar, using softimage in fact... he is talented and doesnt care which tool he is using. but i get your point Lu... *written with my thumbs On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Meng-Yang Lu wrote: That guy that won

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Nuno Conceicao
___ > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Rob Chapman [ > tekano@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:43 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX su

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Cristobal Infante
insulting to say that the film industry is mainly Maya? All my friends that transfered to Maya did it because they wanted to work in films that's a fact at least here in London. MPC, DNEG, Framestore, Cinesite etc are all Maya. Nothing wrong with that by the way, but that's just the way it is..

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2014-03-15 Thread Eric Thivierge
I think it's kind of insulting to say that. It's not the software that makes people able to do that kind of work. It's their skills. It's just a fact that most film studios have had Maya as their backbone for so long that film is typically done with Maya. Then again, we do work at Hybride on films

Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Cristobal Infante
Hi Brad, I guess you mean a lot of our xsi friends decided to go into film industry and therefore had to switch to Maya. I am glad for them, they avoided the mess we are in but as I am sure you know most of us work on commercials. This comes to mind :) it's an opportunity? http://cgmemes.blogsp

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2014-03-15 Thread Michael Clarke
com > Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free > w/Maya or Max or any Suite. > > > As I said in another post. Autodesk cut us our legs and now they are offering > us a wheelchair. And they are trying to convince us that the weelchair is &g

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Meng-Yang Lu
That guy that won the Oscar probably didn't have to do the work... :P You know better than that Brad!! -Lu On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bradley Gabe wrote: > There is somewhat of a bright side folks, let's be realistic. Just about > every single hard core XSI user I'd known who fully comm

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Bradley Gabe
There is somewhat of a bright side folks, let's be realistic. Just about every single hard core XSI user I'd known who fully committed to switching over to Maya without looking back has gone on to do bigger and better things in the industry. They work at places like Weta, ILM, Dreamworks, Disney, h

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Cristobal Infante
: Christoph Muetze c...@glarestudios.de >> > >>> Reply-To: > >>> "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >" > >>> > >>> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> > >>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 18:

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Bk
t;> did. >>> >>> >>> From: Christoph Muetze mailto:c...@glarestudios.de>> >>> Reply-To: >>> "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" >>> >>> mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com&

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Christoph Muetze
autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 18:04:56 +0100 To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Subject: Re: Idea- Just

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Graham Bell
> To: >>"softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" >> >>mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> >> Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage >>free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. >> &

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Christoph Muetze
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 18:04:56 +0100 To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage fr

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Petr Zloty
Chris: I'm looking forward for this transition training videos. I cannot find any high quality level training (except few ones from Gnomon) that could speed up transition of senior XSI user to senior Maya user. Please be sure to show us in that upcoming trainings how to do stuff in Maya we are used

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Jason S
Hello Chris, I think you got spot-on what (or types of things) everyone wanted to know, and goes a long way at inspiring confidence in what lies ahead, and everything genuinely sounds quite amazing to say the least! And to top it all, pretty-much adresses the main points that were commonly to

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Graham Bell
c.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 18:04:56 +0100 To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Sof

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Angus Davidson
___ From: Chris Vienneau [chris.vienn...@autodesk.com] Sent: 15 March 2014 05:17 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. Emilio there are people on this list and within the community that

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Christoph Muetze
On 15/03/14 17:24, Greg Punchatz wrote: I want to use the best out of the box 3d DCC app in the world, if one day that is Maya, I am all aboard. Right now it is not, its kinda just a fact. I'm so with you on this.. We did take Autodesks offer a while back and upgraded two of our groups s

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Toonafish
*Sent:* Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:39 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. Sales revenue was 2.31 Billion in 2013, and gross income 2.07 Billion. The "funny" thing is that while I read on

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Chris again. Thank you for helping in the transition and you are trying to do your job. But you are still not listening to us. You just want to drag us. I have been working in Maya for three years from now for some particular projects that I needed to deliver in Maya. Maya again is no option for

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Rob Wuijster
boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] on behalf of Emilio Hernandez [emi...@e-roja.com<mailto:emi...@e-roja.com>] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:13 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.au

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Greg Punchatz
boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Emilio Hernandez [ > emi...@e-roja.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:28 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free &

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread John Clausing
alf of Francisco Criado > [malcriad...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:43 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free > w/Maya or Max or any Suite > > Agree with you Mirko. > > > 201

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Emilio Hernandez
I will add to Francisco. All I have seen is that you are adding tools for Maya. Not really improving the workflow. Starting with the UI.

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2014-03-15 Thread Chris Vienneau
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Francisco Criado [malcriad...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:43 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite Agree with you Mirko. 2014-03

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Alen
Nicely said, Mirko A On 15.3.2014. 16:38, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Problem is it is not just it sucks ok get over it and move on, it is a life changer for a lot of seasoned Softimage veterans out there that are effectively reduced back to Maya junior, 2 and more decades of experience stripped aw

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Francisco Criado
age-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Emilio Hernandez [ > emi...@e-roja.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:28 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free > w/Maya or Max or any Suite. > > >

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread John Clausing
esk.com > [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Emilio Hernandez > [emi...@e-roja.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:28 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free > w/Maya or Max or any Su

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Chris Vienneau
ental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. Chris first bring back Softimage and then show us what you have to offer in Maya that will allow us to evaluate if what you are doing is good enough to replace Softimage. But at this moment. Maya is still a long way b

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Francisco Criado
Agree with you Mirko. 2014-03-15 12:38 GMT-03:00 Mirko Jankovic : > Problem is it is not just it sucks ok get over it and move on, it is a > life changer for a lot of seasoned Softimage veterans out there that are > effectively reduced back to Maya junior, 2 and more decades of experience > stri

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Problem is it is not just it sucks ok get over it and move on, it is a life changer for a lot of seasoned Softimage veterans out there that are effectively reduced back to Maya junior, 2 and more decades of experience stripped away. That is something that no invention can replace. Using software is

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Martin
15, 2014 11:13 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free > w/Maya or Max or any Suite. > > > As I said in another post. Autodesk cut us our legs and now they are offering > us a wheelchair. And they are

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Emilio Hernandez
By the way just being curious... During the time you made the decision of killing Softimage. Did you evaluate that maybe the one that you should have killed instead was Maya to dedicate your innovative effort to Softimage? Or that never happened?

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2014-03-15 Thread Emilio Hernandez
t; To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free > w/Maya or Max or any Suite. > > > As I said in another post. Autodesk cut us our legs and now they are > offering us a wheelchair. And they are trying to convince

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Chris Vienneau
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Emilio Hernandez [emi...@e-roja.com] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:13 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. As I said in another post

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well innovating Maya is not such a difficult task...

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Emilio Hernandez
As I said in another post. Autodesk cut us our legs and now they are offering us a wheelchair. And they are trying to convince us that the weelchair is better than our legs by asking us how we want the wheelchair customized... pfff. Dont mean to be rude but... You can go back where you came from

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2014-03-15 Thread Tim Marinov
to solve. > > > > cv/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Toonafish [ > ron...@toonafish.nl] >

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2014-03-15 Thread Chris Vienneau
: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Christoph Muetze [c...@glarestudios.de] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:24 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Yes take the name Softimage out and name it Maya reloaded if you want. Personally I don't want a Softimage Maya fembot. It turns out that now they are listening after they realized that most of us will stay in a zombie software or are evaluating other company's options but none of the Autodesk "so

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Francisco Criado
alf of Rob > Chapman [tekano@gmail.com ] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:43 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free > w/Maya or Max or any Suite. > > "We invite anyone here and many of you h

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite

2014-03-15 Thread Christoph Muetze
First you beat us up and now you try to convince us that is was for our own good and that you are actually really nice people... ? Cancer research. really? You are pulling this card here and now? I'm speechless. Chris On 15/03/14 14:37, Chris Vienneau wrote: Hi guys, Your math is a littl

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2014-03-15 Thread Mirko Jankovic
here is still a bright future ahead and many > problems left to solve. > > > > cv/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ > softimage-boun...@listpro

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Chris Vienneau
[tekano@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:43 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. "We invite anyone here and many of you have taken up our offer to contribute and it is up to

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Chris Vienneau
.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. Sales revenue was 2.31 Billion in 2013, and gross income 2.07 Billion. The "funny" thing is that while I read on the list the reason for shutting SI down is that they beli

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Rob Chapman
"We invite anyone here and many of you have taken up our offer to contribute and it is up to us to show that we are delivering over the next two years during the transition period. If we don't at the end than you will all have choices and plenty of time to evaluate your options." what kind of choi

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Mirko Jankovic
both worlds. You as the user are informed about what we intend to > do and we are not breaking any laws. > > > > There are developers on soft right now and we will keep them there for two > years. The list of things we can do to help the transition is in their > hands and we will see w

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Martin
AFAIK that's how the suites worked. You can use all apps in your PC with a single license and as soon as you run any of the apps you'll be using the license and won't be able to use any other app on any other PC. I think that is quite reasonable. Make it subscription only, or time limited maybe

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Toonafish
Sales revenue was 2.31 Billion in 2013, and gross income 2.07 Billion. The "funny" thing is that while I read on the list the reason for shutting SI down is that they believe they can focus more on innovation this way. But AD spent only 600 million of that money on R&D, and 2.83 Billion on

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread skuby
gt;> There's still plenty of tools that can be written, but probably not >>>>> anything earth shattering as the SDK is single threaded and some of the >>>>> components it leans on are getting long in the tooth too as Luc-Eric has >>>>> recently mention

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2014-03-15 Thread skubyd
rest of my thoughts from 21+ years of Softimage experience in another thread at another time. Right now I’m neck deep in getting the project out the door Ben Houston so kindly posted the other day. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun..

Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Matt Lind
I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What you have to understand is Autodesk doesn't want customers running concurrent sessions off a single license as in a Maya/Max and a Softimage session running in parallel. that would effectively allow double the users to work while paying onl

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Mirko Jankovic
> Autodesk was at our site just as the press release was officially >>>> hitting the wire. While no specifics were mentioned by Autodesk or our >>>> reseller in our offices, my personal poking, prodding and reading between >>>> the lines lead me to believe

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread Martin
s the press release was officially hitting >>>> the wire. While no specifics were mentioned by Autodesk or our reseller >>>> in our offices, my personal poking, prodding and reading between the lines >>>> lead me to believe a lot of work (refactoring) has gon

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread skuby
lot of work (refactoring) has gone into Maya >>> the past few years to accommodate some of this burden in migration, but >>> some (much) work still has to come. I think we'll see parts of that work >>> in Maya 2015 and probably explains why the Softimage Montre

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-15 Thread skuby
s been busy for the >> past 2 years on Maya instead of Softimage. I have no idea if there's any >> truth to this, but it's what I've come to believe based on the sparse bits >> and pieces I could put together, and witnessing how such migrations were &g

Re: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-14 Thread skuby
x27;ll share the rest of my thoughts from 21+ years of Softimage experience > in another thread at another time. Right now I'm neck deep in getting the > project out the door Ben Houston so kindly posted the other day. > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > >

RE: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-14 Thread Matt Lind
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite. Softimage is ready out of the box now with no new features added. Why not, leave it as is, but continue to support new Mental Ray and FBX updates so that

Idea- Just keep Mental Ray and FBX support - Softimage free w/Maya or Max or any Suite.

2014-03-14 Thread skuby
Softimage is ready out of the box now with no new features added. Why not, leave it as is, but continue to support new Mental Ray and FBX updates so that it still continues to fit nicely into any pipeline and leave continued development past 2016 at those simple two things. Leave the rest up to p