[SAtalk] add_header

2003-10-22 Thread Joseph Noonan
Alright, I am perfectly happy to be larted at this point as long as I get an answer in the process. I have put an add_header in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf just like this one: add_header all Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] but no header is added to the processed mail. I know that my

[SAtalk] How to update old version of SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread Oleg
Hello all, We are running SpamAssassin 2.5 (with amavisd, postfix and razor) on Linux machine. But I read that new version of SpamAssassin 2.60 is available now. It took long time to build this anti-spam box and I had a really hard time, but now I should update the SpamAssassin version.

[SAtalk] x-spam headers not being written if mail is classified as spam

2003-10-22 Thread dragon
Hello Recently I had to upgrade perl to 5.8 to accommodate another application. Before this spamassassin 2.43 was being used with spamd and vpopmail and always functioned perfectly. After the perl upgrade, spamassassin stopped writting spam headers for mail that had a 5.0 or over rating.

[SAtalk] Whitelisting problems

2003-10-22 Thread Regis Wilson
The problem is allowing end users to manage their whitelists without intevention and without using vi :) One solution was to export home directories via Samba, this was shot down due to problems with cr/lf, typographical errors that casue spamassassin to choke, etc. Some steps in the right

[SAtalk] Out of memory

2003-10-22 Thread Guillermo Delmastro
Hi list I have installed spamassassin-2.60, mimedefang-2.38 and sendmail-8.12.10 on a BSDi system (BSDOS4.3) with perl-5.6.1 And I discovered that spamassassin makes the following error: Out of memory! And I donĀ“t know what to do. It is not matter of hw resources, because it is big enough. I will

RE: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit # 's

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Arlo, -Original Message- From: Arlo Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit #'s I'm hopeful that somebody can explain the dcc results to me. i

[SAtalk] How to Update SpamAssassin to 2.60 version

2003-10-22 Thread oleg aronov
Hello all, We are running SpamAssassin 2.5 (with amavisd, postfix and razor) on Linux machine. But I read that new version of SpamAssassin 2.60 is available now. It took long time to build this anti-spam box and I had a really hard time, but now I should update the SpamAssassin version. Can

Re: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Paul
You should call me. I'm starting a company that will eliminate spam for good. Not just filter it. Filtration won't scale. We'll be eliminating spam for good. CP -- Chris Paul Rex Consulting - Messaging and Security Solutions - www.rexconsulting.net +1 831.338.7712 Key fingerprint = 588A 289C

[SAtalk] [RD] simple rule for consumption

2003-10-22 Thread Regis Wilson
Recently had some false negatives come through. Most of them are one sentence saying hello, and a URL. I noticed some strange headers, listed here: X-E: X-I: X-ENVID X-Email So I wrote a quickie rule and it catches about 126 spam per week. header BAD_HEADERS ALL =~

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Swap Space

2003-10-22 Thread Kris Deugau
Patrick Morris wrote: Unless I'm misunderstanding what your procmail recipes are doing, it's *alread* been hacked into Sendmail. Not exactly, there are a few load-based controls on *some* aspects of sendmail's processing... From a sendmail.cf file I've got lying around: # load average at

RE: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-22 Thread Bill Polhemus
Let me guess: You're hiring hit men to track down and eliminate, not just the Spam, but the Spammers themselves! Then, you're going to invest in genetic research that will find the Spammer gene and provide an inoculation for all the children in the world, to eradicate any possibility that they

RE: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Santerre
-Original Message- From: Dan Wilder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:41 PM To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) Subject: Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step? On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:01:24AM -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: [ Describes plan for DDOS

Re: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-22 Thread Yevgeniy Miretskiy
On [10/21/03 17:56], Chris Paul wrote: You should call me. I'm starting a company that will eliminate spam for good. Not just filter it. Filtration won't scale. We'll be eliminating spam for good. The company is just being started, but already has some marketing pitches :) Good luck :) CP

[SAtalk] Bayes always 99%

2003-10-22 Thread Scott Rothgaber
My Bayes database finally got its 200 spams and hams and kicked in. I've noticed, however, that it *always* says that the probability is 99%. Is this normal? Thanks! Scott --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] simple rule for consumption

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Santerre
Nope these are bogus. I have seperate rules for them in the last Rule Emporeum update. I used seperate, as they often are seen in pairs. Although I didn't tag X-Email, because I'm not sure about that one. --Chris Santerre -Original Message- From: Regis Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes always 99%

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Even on good mail? Or only on Spam? Because when I see spam, I'm 99% sure it's spam, and a well-trained Bayes engine would be 99% sure also. If it's on good mail that you're seeing 99%, every time, then your database is screwed up and you should start over. -Original Message- From:

RE: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit # 's

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Arlo, -Original Message- From: Arlo Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:48 AM To: Larry Gilson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit # 's Thanks Larry, I do understand that 9

RE: [SAtalk] CGI script for whitelisting?

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Santerre
I've recently found a great user interface, but don't know what it is using. I needed to lower the spam rate for my grandfather. 110.net was purchased by ici.net, who was then owned by conversant. *sigh* Anywho mail.110.net has a login and then a VERY nice interface for not only whitelisting, but

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes always 99%

2003-10-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:36 AM 10/22/2003, Scott Rothgaber wrote: My Bayes database finally got its 200 spams and hams and kicked in. I've noticed, however, that it *always* says that the probability is 99%. Is this normal? No.. It is however quite normal for nearly all spams to be at 99% and nearly all nonspam

[SAtalk] [RD] Trojaned machines

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Santerre
I can't thank Bob enough for pointing me to the other spam list regarding blocks and legal info. Info can be found here: http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/ Read the FAQ before posting! Anywho, I'm reading the archives so I don't look foolish asking questions, and I see this latest post:

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Bill Larson
You clearly don't understand that most spam complaints do not go to the spammers. It's called a joe job and it's something I am suffering under right now. We have received well over 5,000 spam complaints from mostly automated ignorant systems in the last 2 weeks. I respond to each and every

Re: [SAtalk] How to update old version of SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:15 PM 10/21/2003, =?koi8-r?Q?=22?=Oleg=?koi8-r?Q?=22=20?= wrote: Can somebody advise me, please, the way in which I can update it? Can I just do new install from CPAN? Or it will not be enough? The system is working now and I do not want to screw it, therefore I need help.

Re: [SAtalk] How to Update SpamAssassin to 2.60 version

2003-10-22 Thread Morris Jones
Oleg, I know it's going to take a little effort to update Spamassassin. For me it was fairly straightforward. I just unpacked it from the tarball and did an install. Others had issues migrating existing databases, but most of that is covered in the README and INSTALL files in the package.

RE: [SAtalk] How to update old version of SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread Michael Emdy
I've been trying to upgrade my Spam Assassin install on RedHat 9 unsuccessfully so far. I get this when trying to use the RPM from the SA site. [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# rpm -Uvh spamassassin* warning: spamassassin-2.60-1.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e580b363 error: Failed

[SAtalk] Procmail+Sendmail+SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Rosa
Hello list's friends. I have FreeBSD box with sendmail+spamassassin+procmail. As it comes more and more spam messages I realize to prepare rules for spam deletion. I have done 3 months work on spam mesgs+senders+scores analysis. Now I'm ready to do it, but I'm not very familiar with procmail. I

RE: [SAtalk] How to update old version of SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread ian douglas
Going from 2.5x to 2.6x should be pretty painless and just work.. the only problem cases I've seen are when people use spamd with -u root (2.60's spamd bails out if you try to force it to always run as root). If we're not using spamd, can a CPAN shell 'install' for SA upgrade without a

RE: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Santerre
-Original Message- From: Bill Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:19 AM To: Chris Santerre Subject: Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step? You clearly don't understand that most spam complaints do not go to the spammers. It's called a joe job

[SAtalk] Info about scritp

2003-10-22 Thread Andrea Riela
Hi, I've a newbie's request: after to have modified the local.cf, how could I restart sa? There is a command, or have you got any script? Normally the spam daemon starts with: /usr/bin/spamd -d -v -u vpopmail -x My system is: openbsd 3.3, sa 2.60 Thanks for all Andrea

Re: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-22 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Chris Paul wrote: You should call me. I'm starting a company that will eliminate spam for good. Not just filter it. Filtration won't scale. We'll be eliminating spam for good. 1) I hope you have a robust server. The latest spammer tactic is to DOSA anyone with a good

RE: [SAtalk] server specs

2003-10-22 Thread Todd Schuldt
We're super lightweights, peak at 500 foreign inbounds/hour with overnight lows at 15 per hour and we don't scan authenticated internal-to-internal mailings. We stress tested our setup by suspending the processing queue, loading 5000/50k (about 244mb) test messages (19.5 score each) sent to a

Re: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Campion-Bye
You should call me. I'm starting a company that will eliminate spam for good. Not just filter it. Filtration won't scale. We'll be eliminating spam for good. CP -- Chris Paul Rex Consulting - Messaging and Security Solutions - www.rexconsulting.net http://www.rexconsulting.net...

[SAtalk] Re: SA Scalability Was: Swap Space

2003-10-22 Thread Dan Wilder
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 08:09:33PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: Patrick Morris wrote: Unless I'm misunderstanding what your procmail recipes are doing, it's *alread* been hacked into Sendmail. The whole point was to keep accepting *new* mail, while making sure that *concurrent* procmail-SA

Re: [SAtalk] Out of memory

2003-10-22 Thread Dan Wilder
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:11:13PM -0300, Guillermo Delmastro wrote: Hi list I have installed spamassassin-2.60, mimedefang-2.38 and sendmail-8.12.10 on a BSDi system (BSDOS4.3) with perl-5.6.1 And I discovered that spamassassin makes the following error: Out of memory! And I don?t know what

[SAtalk] subject_tag problem

2003-10-22 Thread Riley J. McIntire
Hi all, Just did a clean install of 2.6 using Ports on freebsd 4.8p13. Using spamd, and a config files from 2.42 with (i think!) deprecate options removed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin 516$ sudo spamassassin --lint [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin 517$

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Bob Amen
Bill Larson wrote: You clearly don't understand that most spam complaints do not go to the spammers. It's called a joe job and it's something I am suffering under right now. We have received well over 5,000 spam complaints from mostly automated ignorant systems in the last 2 weeks. I don't

[SAtalk] sa-learn not working right

2003-10-22 Thread Anne Ramey
when I sa-learn on a folder of spam it takes almost no time and says learned 1 no matter how many where in the file but when I do an sa-learn of ham, it works fine. Ideas? Anne Ramey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] Trojaned machines

2003-10-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:18 AM 10/22/2003, Chris Santerre wrote: It is tough to remember everything SA looks for. Does 2.60 have something like this? Comments? rawbody MY_TROJANED_HOST /http:\/\/\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\:\d{2,4}\// describe MY_TROJANED_HOST Possible Trojaned box used for spam hosting score

Re: [SAtalk] How to update old version of SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread Kris Deugau
Michael Emdy wrote: I've been trying to upgrade my Spam Assassin install on RedHat 9 unsuccessfully so far. I get this when trying to use the RPM from the SA site. [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# rpm -Uvh spamassassin* warning: spamassassin-2.60-1.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e580b363

Re: [SAtalk] How BIG are 'auto-whitlist' files supposed to get?

2003-10-22 Thread Kris Deugau
Ian Douglas wrote: Any permission issues to take into account if you make the owner of the file something other than the user's login name? If you change the owner of the filename but maintain writable permission to the files otherwise, you effectively have no quota issue as someone else will

[SAtalk] bayes tmp lockfile problem - permissions are fine

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Wang
Hi everyone, I have SA 2.60 running on a Redhat 8 system with CommuniGate Pro. The setup works very well except that auto-learning doesn't work. When I send myself a ham that is below the threshold, I see the Bayesian attempting to learn, only to fail on creating a temporary lockfile: Oct

Re: [SAtalk] Procmail+Sendmail+SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Rosa
Of course, I do not write to the list, if I did not look anywhere I had some idea to look. Procmailrc.example was the first one I found on my drive. Anywhere, it is only very basic to procmail rules. Please, any other idea to start with ? Peter Rosa - Original Message - From: Morris

Re: [SAtalk] [RD]Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-22 Thread Fred I-IS.COM
Update of OBFU chr's rule. rawbody __FVGT_rb_ATTACHMENT /Content-Disposition: attachment/i body __FVGT_b_OBFU_J /j(b|c|f|g|w)/i body __FVGT_b_OBFU_OTHER /(vj|vk|xj|xk|yy|zf|zj)/i body __FVGT_b_OBFU_Q0 /(j|k|p|q|t|v|w|z)q/i body __FVGT_b_OBFU_Q1 /q(a|f|h|j|k|m|n|s|y)/i body __FVGT_b_OBFU_V

Re: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-22 Thread Todd Joseph
He could be one of these folks: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/10/12/SpamPlan27. Or, he could actually have something that's won't inspire Spam Houses to become approved Mail Relays. Or, maybe he's planning to boycott the Hormel product? In the same way that I'm drawn to

[SAtalk] spamassassin integrated into postfix mailman mailing lists

2003-10-22 Thread Christian Kuhtz
Anyone here running mailman lists via postfix and uses spamassassin to score/filter messages sent to the lists? Preferably everything tagged as spam should be trashed/rejected. Off-list contacts are fine. Thanks, Christian

[SAtalk] Sendmail+Procmail+SA

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Rosa
Hello list's friends. I have FreeBSD box with sendmail+spamassassin+procmail. As it comes more and more spam messages I realize to prepare rules for spam deletion. I have done 3 months work on spam mesgs+senders+scores analysis. Now I'm ready to do it, but I'm not very familiar with procmail. I

RE: [SAtalk] How to update old version of SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Michael, There is definitely a dependency order. You need to upate installed RPM. If you want to update each RPM, one at a time, you will need to use the --nodeps option. Just understand that if you update each RPM one at a time, you *have* to update them all. Otherwise you will have one

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn not working right

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:35:28 -0400 Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I sa-learn on a folder of spam it takes almost no time and says learned 1 no matter how many where in the file but when I do an sa-learn of ham, it works fine. Ideas? what format(s) are the 2 mailboxes?

RE: [SAtalk] How BIG are 'auto-whitlist' files supposed to get?

2003-10-22 Thread Ian Douglas
If you allow shell access, you therefore effectively allow any user to meddle with any other user's SA prefs, AWL, and Bayes files if you do per-user Bayes as well. :/ Not an issue with chroot'd shell access though ;o) -id --- This

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn not working right

2003-10-22 Thread Pedro Sam
On October 22, 2003 10:35 am, Anne Ramey wrote: when I sa-learn on a folder of spam it takes almost no time and says learned 1 no matter how many where in the file but when I do an sa-learn of ham, it works fine. Ideas? If the folder is of mbox format, you may want to specify the --mbox

RE: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Stewart, John
I'm not sure if this would be something that SpamAssassin could do, or if it would need to be integrated into amavisd-new, for those of us using that excellent tool. (BTW, I just wanted to say 2.60 is the bee's knees. Bayes learning seems to be even more improved than the already good 2.55

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Martin Radford
At Wed Oct 22 16:21:27 2003, Bill Larson wrote: Most of the spam in question is originating in China. You may wish to send complaints to the following addresses role: APNIC Hostmaster e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] notify: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think sending mail to

Re: [SAtalk] [RD]Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-22 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Fred I-IS COM [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Update of OBFU chr's rule. rawbody __FVGT_rb_ATTACHMENT /Content-Disposition: attachment/i body __FVGT_b_OBFU_J /j(b|c|f|g|w)/i You really really need to use character classes. /j[bcfgw]/i Is this rule syntax legal? I didn't know I could

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn not working right

2003-10-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:35 AM 10/22/2003, Anne Ramey wrote: when I sa-learn on a folder of spam it takes almost no time and says learned 1 no matter how many where in the file but when I do an sa-learn of ham, it works fine. Ideas? What command line did you use? and what format is the mail in? If you're giving

[SAtalk] SA TIMED OUT

2003-10-22 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Hello I see allot of such errors in my syslog. I think they apear only if i enable RAZOR, with Razor disabled i never saw such an error, any idea ? Can i change the timeout somewhere ? Oct 22 19:54:11 tschuggen amavis[3870]: (03870-02) SA TIMED OUT, backtrace: at

[SAtalk] Re: How BIG are 'auto-whitlist' files supposed to get?

2003-10-22 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Ian Douglas wrote: NOW I see auto-whitelist and 'bayes' files that are exceeding 1MB in size, each. Is this 'normal'? Any permission issues to take into account if you make the owner of the file something other than the user's login name? Minor issues. I am more

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stewart, John writes: I'm not sure if this would be something that SpamAssassin could do, or if it would need to be integrated into amavisd-new, for those of us using that excellent tool. (BTW, I just wanted to say 2.60 is the bee's knees.

RE: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Roger Merchberger
Rumor has it that Stewart, John may have mentioned these words: [snippety] One thing that might be very useful is for every email coming through that is scanned, to log not only the spam level (which is already done with amavisd-new, and I would assume for those using spamd) but the previous hop

RE: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Ian Douglas
Altho not thru SA, I created a set of programs that scan my qmail queue for doublebounces whatnot, scan the headers of normal messages and/or doublebounces log the IP addresses into a postgresql database. sendmail has an operative for double bounces to redirect those messages to another

Amavisd-new and logging untrusted relays... was: RE: [SAtalk] [OT ] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Stewart, John
John Stewart (not the talk show host, nor the singer) wrote: I'm sure SA must parse each of the Received headers to determine the SMTP servers, so at some point this information is available. Would it be possible to get this information logged somehow with the spam level? [EMAIL

Re: Amavisd-new and logging untrusted relays... was: RE: [SAtalk] [OT ] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stewart, John writes: I'm guessing the -get_report function (object? Not sure the terminology with this OO stuff) is simply the text that normally appears at the bottom of an email when you do spamassassin -t. Alas, this would not contain the

Re: [SAtalk] SA TIMED OUT

2003-10-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:37 PM 10/22/03 +0200, Andreas Fuchs wrote: I see allot of such errors in my syslog. I think they apear only if i enable RAZOR, with Razor disabled i never saw such an error, any idea ? Can i change the timeout somewhere ? What kind of setup are you using? It's hard to give a whole lot of

Re: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-22 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Todd Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could be one of these folks: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/10/12/SpamPlan27. More likely one of these: http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html -- Keith C. Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC

[SAtalk] Problems installing SpamAssassin 2.6

2003-10-22 Thread Greg Thorne
I am trying to install SpamAssassin 2.6, and I keep getting the message: $ ./spamassassin HTML::Parser version 3.24 required--this is only version 3.05 at /home/gthorne/perlmods/lib/site_perl/5.6.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 8. Even though I installed the newest HTML::Parser locally (under

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] Trojaned machines

2003-10-22 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://203.232.101.125:3344 This smells of a trojaned box for spamming. I'm thinking of writing a rule that looks for http links with IP addresses and a port number. I'm thinking the FP rate would be low. It is tough to remember everything SA

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes always 99%

2003-10-22 Thread Scott Rothgaber
Tom Meunier wrote: Even on good mail? Duh! Sorry for that half-baed description. Spams are marked 99%. It is not falsely classifying good messages. Actually, I saw two 90% scores today. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer