Re: Expansion chamber for anti-freeze

2011-10-26 Thread Jeff Garrison
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RE: Expansion chamber for anti-freeze

2011-10-26 Thread Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo
ber 26, 2011 2:13 PM > > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > > Subject: Expansion chamber for anti-freeze > > > > Can anybody explain why I would need an expansion chamber for an anti-freeze > > system when there is only 60 psi in the street? > > > > >

RE: Expansion chamber for anti-freeze

2011-10-26 Thread Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo
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RE: Expansion chamber for anti-freeze

2011-10-26 Thread Joel Chaim
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RE: Expansion chamber for anti-freeze

2011-10-26 Thread John O'Connor
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Expansion chamber for anti-freeze

2011-10-26 Thread Joel Chaim
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RE: Dual floor control assemblies

2011-10-26 Thread Steve Leyton
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RE: Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Ronl . Fletcher
When I get in the way back machine I remember that it was verboten at some point. It seems to be okay now so long as the flow switch operates on the flow of one head. Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:s

RE: Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Sharon Alves
I have had some jurisdictions require it as a precautionary measure i.e. a standpipe that might be out of service. However, I have not seen it allowed to improve hydraulics. SHARON ALVES Senior Fire Sprinkler Designer LP Consulting Engineers, Inc. Mechanical -MElectrical -EPlumbing Engineers

RE: Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Ed Kramer
If my memory serves me correctly, there was a time when NFPA 14 prohibited it. My 2003 edition doesn't have it. So if it was prohibited, it was in an edition older than 2003. Ed Kramer Littleton, CO > -Original Message- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerf

RE: Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Ronl . Fletcher
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Re: Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Charles Thurston
Hello Ronl.Fletcher, There are a few high rises here setup that way around here... BIG thing is the alarm company has to put the flow switches on different points so it can be verified that BOTH work during the test. Inspectors need to know to look for 2 flow alarms from each floor and have a w

RE: Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Eric Tysinger
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RE: Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Morey, Mike
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Dual floor control assembies

2011-10-26 Thread Ronl . Fletcher
Is anyone aware of a prohibition against having two floor control assemblies on each floor connected to two different standpipes and calculating the loop to size the sprinkler main? Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ ___ Sprinklerforum mailin

Re: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

2011-10-26 Thread Ron Greenman
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RE: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

2011-10-26 Thread Ronl . Fletcher
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RE: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

2011-10-26 Thread Craig.Prahl
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RE: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

2011-10-26 Thread Ronl . Fletcher
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RE: Automatic Storage Retrieval System (ASRS)

2011-10-26 Thread Mark Jason
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RE: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

2011-10-26 Thread Craig.Prahl
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Re: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

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RE: Automatic Storage Retrieval System (ASRS)

2011-10-26 Thread Mark Jason
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RE: Automatic Storage Retrieval System (ASRS)

2011-10-26 Thread Bill Brooks
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RE: Automatic Storage Retrieval System (ASRS)

2011-10-26 Thread Matt Grise
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RE: Automatic Storage Retrieval System (ASRS)

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RE: Automatic Storage Retrieval System (ASRS)

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RE: Obstruction to discharge

2011-10-26 Thread Brian Harris
Bob- Thanks for the reply. I guess my only question then is it seems to me there should be some type of a limitation on 8.8.5.1.2 (2) with regard to deflector distance above the obstruction, similar to table 8.8.5.1.2.? Brian Harris, CET FDFP Inc. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum