[Sprinklerforum] Re: Manual Wet Standpipe Inspection

2024-03-07 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Good morning, We’ve found it all depends on the district and individual AHJ… We do a number of manual wet/dry standpipes in our area and each one comes with it’s own challenges. One of my colleagues just invested in a used fire truck figuring the best course of action is to be over prepared th

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Hydraulic Placards

2023-09-07 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Hey Brian, I use to do this for a couple companies... I only surveyed the "remote area" and main piping back to the alarm valve. The AHJ is just looking for a replacement Placard, not plans or calcs. Good luck! Steven From: Brian Harris Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2023 10:07 AM To: sprinklerf

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Mackinnon
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[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Mackinnon
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[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Mackinnon
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[Sprinklerforum] plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Good morning everyone, There is a project that was put out for bid as a “plans and specifications”, showing approximate locations of heads, pipe sizes, etc… We were awarded the project and found out the engineer who laid out the bid set did not adequality size the sprinkler pipe for the water s

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Hydraulic Design Information sign

2022-04-22 Thread Steve Mackinnon
We use a label maker… From: Dewayne Martinez Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 8:02 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Dewayne Martinez Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Hydraulic Design Information sign What has everyone been doing to satisfy the requirement of a “permanently” marked weathe

RE: question about Storage height

2022-01-26 Thread Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum
From: Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 3:32 PM To: Steve Mackinnon ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Art Tiroly Subject: RE: question about Storage height The liquid is a corrosive, non-issue from our perspective. I would wager they don't have adequate secondary c

RE: question about Storage height

2022-01-26 Thread Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum
sification... a Group A plastic upgrade at 10 feet is costing them six figures in FS upgrades (new underground, fire pump etc). -Original Message- From: Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 2:53 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Steve Mackinnon ; Art Tiroly S

RE: question about Storage height

2022-01-26 Thread Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum
it's still plastic. Mike From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 9:02 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Steve Mackinnon ; Peter Howard Subject: question about Storage height G

RE: question about Storage height

2022-01-26 Thread Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum
M To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Mike Hairfield Subject: Re: question about Storage height It should be 10 feet even though the other container is empty it's still plastic. Mike From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wedn

question about Storage height

2022-01-26 Thread Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum
Good morning all, We have a storage situation where the liquid commodity is in a 5 foot plastic storage cube, with an equally sized empty plastic container below. The empty container below is only there to act as a spill collection vessel. The question our office has been banging around, wha

RE: PDF to DWG programs

2019-06-18 Thread Steve Mackinnon
2013 autocad here and no pdf convert built in. I also use Print2CAD and love it! From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Glen Buelow, Inc. Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: PDF to DWG programs try Print2CAD [https://docs.google.com/uc?expor

RE: Water Test From Storage Tank

2019-05-15 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I do a lot of this work in NYC and we just use the gravity pressure as the static number and drop 1 psi for residual pressure. Then divide the gravity tank volume by your hazard (i.e. light = 30 minutes, and ord haz = 40 minutes) for the flow number. Steven From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of

Re: 3" FDC

2018-06-01 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Richard, Try “Croker.com” they sell 3” FDC’s Regards, Steven On Jun 1, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Richard Mote mailto:rich...@rowesprinkler.com>> wrote: Here’s another one for the books AHJ requires a 3” Siamese Fire Department Connection. I’ve checked Manufactures so far and am s

RE: Calcs and tenant improvements

2017-10-06 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Most local AHJ’s are requiring calcs on all sprinkler filings. The exception to the rule is a clear “one for one” relocate project… but the minute you install flexheads (even if there are existing ones on the job), calcs MUST be provided. I just ran into a situation where we had approved FM dwgs

RE: Calculation using only a gravity tank

2017-07-18 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Good morning Wayne, You are on the right track. Divide the distance from the floor control valve or sprinkler head to the bottom of the tank by 0.433, this is your residual pressure. I add 1 psi to the static. then divide the tank storage size by your hazard (light hazard = 30 minutes) i.e. 12

RE: Self Storage "half units"

2017-06-23 Thread Steve Mackinnon
In the past year I've come across two buildings like this... we ended up installing a horizontal sidewall under the "upper unit". Regards, Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631-580-2300 Fax 631-580-1

RE: oxygen cylinder storage sprinkler protection

2016-11-04 Thread Steve Mackinnon
] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:55 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: oxygen cylinder storage sprinkler protection Good morning everyone, I’m trying to locate information on fire prot

RE: oxygen cylinder storage sprinkler protection

2016-11-03 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Thank you Scot, didn’t think about FM sheets. thanks Steven From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of å... Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:28 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: oxygen cylinder storage sprinkler pr

oxygen cylinder storage sprinkler protection

2016-11-03 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Good morning everyone, I’m trying to locate information on fire protection (mainly sprinklers) for an oxygen cylinder storage facility. I’ve breezed through NFPA 55 and don’t see specifics like we find in NFPA, 13 or 30… Does anyone have experience with this type of storage? Any help would be

RE: ESFR to Anti-Freeze ESFR

2016-06-16 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Check with ESFR suppliers, I believe Viking had the only listed ESFR Anti-freeze combo... but gave up there listing 6-12 months ago for their new freezer box storage system... Steven MacKinnon -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.o

RE: NFPA-13 8.4.7.2.1

2016-06-16 Thread Steve Mackinnon
For the 2007 edition it pertains to “large Drop sprinklers” only. Steven MacKinnon From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:56 PM To: vi...@wtfp.net; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE:

RE: gridded pipe in a DIPA system

2016-06-09 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org<http://www.firesprinkler.org/> On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Steve Mackinnon mailto:ste...@hartcorn.com>> wrote: Just came across a set of fire sprinkler plans for a freezer… The engineer wants to install a DIPA with gridded pipe, would this ar

RE: gridded pipe in a DIPA system

2016-06-08 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Fax: 718-633-4593 m...@safetyfiresprinkler.com<mailto:m...@safetyfiresprinkler.com> www.safetyfiresprinkler.com<mailto:fe...@safetyfiresprinkler.com> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Wednes

gridded pipe in a DIPA system

2016-06-08 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Just came across a set of fire sprinkler plans for a freezer… The engineer wants to install a DIPA with gridded pipe, would this arrangement be allowed by NFPA 13, 2007 standards?? I know the good book says a DIPA system is considered a dry system for the 30% design area increase, but what about

RE: Wide format plotters

2016-03-22 Thread Steve Mackinnon
We use a two plotter system... Oce for the black and whites, and Canon IPF750 for the colour prints. Like you suggested in the last part of your email, how often do you print colour prints... so we went with a slightly used plotter from the same people that supply/service the Oce machine... they

RE: Galvanized in 1986 wet system

2016-02-01 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Back in the day, they use to use a threadible light wall pipe that was galv.. this could be it... Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631-580-2300 Fax - 631-580-1090 -Original Message- From: S

RE: who can seal fire sprinkler drawings

2016-01-20 Thread Steve Mackinnon
tm > > Office of State Fire Marshal > 141 Monticello Trail | Columbia, SC 29203 > http://scfiremarshal.llronline.com/ > (803)896-9800 > > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve >

Re: who can seal fire sprinkler drawings

2016-01-18 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Wow, all great information. Thank you! Sent from… > On Jan 18, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Roland Huggins > wrote: > > What Steve said. I have checked with a couple of states on this issue > particularly on their definition of control by the PE over the drawings (a > necessity for stamping). I wou

RE: who can seal fire sprinkler drawings

2016-01-18 Thread Steve Mackinnon
International Drive Spartanburg, SC  29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 craig.pr...@ch2m.com -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 11:37 A

RE: who can seal fire sprinkler drawings

2016-01-18 Thread Steve Mackinnon
obile: 701.371.5759 | http://www.kfiengineers.com -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 10:37 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: who can seal fire sprinkler dra

who can seal fire sprinkler drawings

2016-01-18 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Good morning all, We're working on a project and the client is asking where it states a Registered Architect or AIA can sign fire sprinkler drawings over a Professional Engineer? The work is in New York State, if it helps?? I'm trying to locate the line where it's allowed... Thanks Steven

RE: Dubai - Address Hotel Fire

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Mackinnon
CNN.com Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631-580-2300 Fax - 631-580-1090 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matt

Re: test

2015-12-23 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Hello Sent from… > On Dec 23, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Thomas Reinhardt > wrote: > > > > Tom Reinhardt > Fire Inspector/Plan Reviewer > Skokie Fire Department > 7424 Niles Center Road > Skokie, IL 60077 > Office: 847-982-5342 > thomas.reinha...@skokie.org > > _

RE: porte cochere

2015-11-03 Thread Steve Mackinnon
OH1 here... Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631-580-2300 Fax - 631-580-1090 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tra

RE: ESFR Sprinklers and covered catwalks

2015-10-29 Thread Steve Mackinnon
is installed under the obstruction. Where can you omit? R/ Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:28 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE

RE: ESFR Sprinklers and covered catwalks

2015-10-29 Thread Steve Mackinnon
2 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 craig.pr...@ch2m.com -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:45 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: ESFR Sprinkler

RE: ESFR Sprinklers and covered catwalks

2015-10-29 Thread Steve Mackinnon
-309-1242 Web: www.performancefire.com Licensed in NC, SC, VA, TN, GA, AL "Performance on Every Level." -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:45 PM To: sprinklerforu

RE: test

2015-10-29 Thread Steve Mackinnon
:) -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Reinhardt Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:51 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: test ___ Sprinklerf

ESFR Sprinklers and covered catwalks

2015-10-28 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Hello everybody, I have a situation where a client is looking to install an ESFR system protecting racks... they would like to add a solid floor catwalk system between the racks. Do you continue installing ESFR sprinklers under each level or can you install control mode sprinkler under the catw

Re: Recalled Heads

2015-06-03 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I recently in countered a big defense contractor that had 100's if not close to 1,000 recalled heads under one roof. They didn't seam to care when notified… and this is only one building in a huge complex of similar buildings… didn't leave a warm feeling in my stomach knowing they were still the

RE: to Pitot or not to Pitot?

2014-06-20 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Here in Suffolk County New York we're required to adjust to a "historical low". I've seen the water company drop the static as much as 25-30 psi... I just finished a 10,000 sq.ft. gym with a 4"x3"x2" grid system feed from a 6" supply due to the historical low... water company dropped my supply n

RE: Hibachi grills

2014-05-30 Thread Steve Mackinnon
forum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 2:41 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Hibachi grills Still morning here Steve. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Steve Mackinnon wrote: > Lol, love the comments on a Friday a

RE: Hibachi grills

2014-05-30 Thread Steve Mackinnon
ty mezcal. That's a hint should any of you ever happen to be where I am and there's a bar close by }:-P On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Steve Mackinnon wrote: > Thank you Ron. > The exhaust duct reduces to a third of its size within the plenum > (above the grill hood), an

RE: Hibachi grills

2014-05-30 Thread Steve Mackinnon
116 > > *Licensed in KS & MO > > 913.888.0647 ph > 913.888.0618 f > 913.927.0222 cell > www. AFPsprink.com > > -----Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve > Mackinnon > Sent: Frid

RE: Hibachi grills

2014-05-30 Thread Steve Mackinnon
orum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:07 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Hibachi grills Good morning everyone, I'm working on a small restaurant that will have multiple hibachi grills... Somehow my boss got ahold

Hibachi grills

2014-05-30 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Good morning everyone, I'm working on a small restaurant that will have multiple hibachi grills... Somehow my boss got ahold of an old 2000 New York State Mechanical code detail showing two upright heads above the fume hood in an exhaust plenum. I'm trying to locate a similar detail or require

RE: 120 sq. ft. VS. 100 sq. ft. ?

2014-02-28 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Systems, Inc. 7994 Route 522, Suite 1 PO Box 407 Middleburg, PA 17842 P 570-837-7647 F 570-837-6335 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014

RE: 120 sq. ft. VS. 100 sq. ft. ?

2014-02-28 Thread Steve Mackinnon
this one gets them every time! Look at table 8.6.2.2.1 (d) on page 53 of the standard (and page 249 of the handbook) Steven Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631-580-2300 Fax - 631-580-1090

RE: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications

2014-02-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
ngineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org On Feb 21, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Steve Mackinnon wrote: > Good morning all, > > I have a Local AHJ that is saying in NFPA 13, 2007 edition it states that dry > s

RE: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications

2014-02-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
) sprinklers. Also worth noting that the first draft is now available and that requirement was deleted from 8.4.7. Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Steve

RE: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications

2014-02-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
ccah...@burnsmcd.com www.burnsmcd.com Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For *Registered in: MN -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Friday, Fe

RE: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications

2014-02-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:06 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications G

RE: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications

2014-02-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
resprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:06 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications Good morning all, I have a Local AHJ that

RE: no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications

2014-02-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
go, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 | http://www.kfiengineers.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:06 AM To:

no dry type sprinkler systems allowed in light hazard applications

2014-02-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Good morning all, I have a Local AHJ that is saying in NFPA 13, 2007 edition it states that dry systems are not allowed in light hazard applications, does anyone have an idea of where this is located?? I've looked through the standard a few times and can't put my finger on anything close. Than

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
For dry and double interlocked pre action systems, black pipe is c of 100. Galv is c of 120. For wet and single interlocked pre action systems, all steel piping is 120. Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Offi

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I'm looking at NFPA 13, 2007. Section 8.4.7.2.2. it states black fittings shall be used in conjunction with Large drop sprinkler heads in a dry and PA system Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Mackinnon
d > bracing". No calc's required, use drive screws to attach brace from 8" > pipe to wood 2x6 at the roof. A little different from the hoops we > jump through for OSHPAD in CA. > Ron F > > -Original Message- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.fire

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Mackinnon
What is the difference? Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631-580-2300 Fax - 631-580-1090 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun

RE: Sprinkler Obstruction

2013-09-24 Thread Steve Mackinnon
With the pallet hanging 12" below the ceiling and (for the most part) directly under the sprinkler head, I would agree with Steve, the spray pattern might be compromised... Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779

RE: SR vs QR

2013-08-02 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Have you tried contacting the manufacture and asking for a letter? -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 2:44 PM To: sprinklerfo...@firesprink

RE: Storage Decision Tree

2013-06-25 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Is it free? -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Vince Sabolik Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:17 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Storage Decision Tree I us

RE: Residential Garages, 13R & me.

2013-06-20 Thread Steve Mackinnon
My 2 cents, typically with a 13D system you have one or two car garage. A 13R system could have a parking garage with 100 spots... -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John Denhardt

RE: West, TX explosion

2013-04-26 Thread Steve Mackinnon
OMG! -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd - Work Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:09 PM To: sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org Subject: West, TX explosion >From reading the latest re

RE: garage under apartments

2013-03-18 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Is there a 2 rating between garages corridor and units?... if not, I'm leaning towards protecting them as a 13 system for the corridor and garage... Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating Inc. 850 South 2nd Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 631-580-2300 - Office 6

RE: Slope Ceiling 20 PSI requirement

2013-01-15 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Look at table 8.6.2.2.1 (a) Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating Inc. 850 South 2nd Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 631-580-2300 - Office 631-580-1090 - Fax ste...@hartcorn.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto

RE: Pressure RegulatingControl Valve

2012-11-21 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I've used a number of different PRV configurations on the East coast... spend the time to look at each make and model for incoming pressure versus outgoing pressure, they differ greatly. And, I've always been in favour of a separate control valve then the PRV (allows for better servicing in the fut

RE: Concealed space or not

2012-10-04 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Thank you for the reply Mr. Casterline and Ron. My gut says it should be protected, but the GC is looking to save a few bucks! Lol Thanks Again Steven Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating Inc. 850 South 2nd Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 631-580-2300 - Offi

Concealed space or not

2012-10-04 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I have a situation where the GC wants to change the new sheet rock ceiling system to a walk-able hard ceiling. We're talking about a room 17 ft x 29 ft, with one 24"x24" access panel. This would create a room above a room... The purpose of this is to allow for future maintenance of filters and mec

RE: High rise building - dual floor system supplies?

2012-09-24 Thread Steve Mackinnon
The only time I've had to have two water supplies within a high rise, was a Ritz Carlton (due to a Marriott Hotel Specification) Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating Inc. 850 South 2nd Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 631-580-2300 - Office 631-580-1090 - Fax ste

RE: Planetarium dome

2012-07-10 Thread Steve Mackinnon
A couple of years ago, I did a small children's Planetarium (approx. 25 foot diameter). The Engineering firm that designed the system, called out for single interlocked pre-action system with heads at the lower lip, and a wet system at the ceiling... We had long discussions about changing to a do

RE: Today's Challenge question - Sizing Air compressors

2012-04-04 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I've worked with most software's, and have found doing the old fashion way to work best. Time to break out the calculator and yellow tape! Just saying:) Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating Inc. 850 South 2nd Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 631-580-2300 - Offi

RE: NFPA 13R Attics

2012-04-02 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Joel, I believe NFPA-13R would only require the attic to be sprinklered if this space was being used for living space or storage... the method of getting up the attic does not come into play in this scenario... my take on this. lol Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbi

RE: Commodity classification

2012-03-30 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Thank you everyone for your input. I have a 9000 sq. ft warehouse filled with 4-8 oz glass bottles packaged in cardboard boxes. Said boxes are stored both in racks on pallets and on solid shelves. Bldg height - 17 ft, storage height 12-13 ft. I'm going to ask for the MSDS and check NFPA 30, good

Commodity classification

2012-03-29 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I have a Perfume outlet, with mixed warehouse and retail store. In the warehouse, what class would you protect this product by? >From what I can tell online, perfume is typically 80-90% alcohol. Does this put me in a class IV?? Ouch! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Steven Steve

RE: anti-freeze esfr system

2012-03-27 Thread Steve Mackinnon
A rep from TYCO was just in my office this morning, and mentioned they are releasing an ESFR Dry K-17 Pendent head with a 2" Barrel. Hit me up if you want name and contact info... Steven Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating Inc. 850 South 2nd Street Ron

Chapter 13 Misc. Storage under 12 ft question on Encapsulation

2012-03-15 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I'm trying to locate something in NFPA 13, 2007 Ed., that gives direction on Encapsulated pallets for protecting a Chapter 13 storage arrangement. Has anyone else had an experience with this scenario? Thanks Steven Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating I

RE: Underground Pipe Material

2012-02-28 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Here in NY, we must run a minimum of 5'-0" (from building) of ductile iron... Steven MacKinnon Senior Fire Protection Engineer Hartcorn Plumbing & Heating Inc. 850 South 2nd Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 631-580-2300 - Office 631-580-1090 - Fax ste...@hartcorn.com -Original Message- From

Historical lows on Water Flow tests

2012-02-23 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I have a question about the "Historical low" noted on Water Flow Tests from Government agencies (i.e. County, Town, City Water companies). Recently I received a test with the results; Static - 75 psi Residual - 54 psi Flow - 671 gpm. At the top of the letter they through in, "Historically, the st

RE: 4-Way Seismic Brace

2012-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Did you read the letter on the web site, they talk about why... but this is there solution to the problem. "We recommend that designers change their use of the Fig. 907 either to the TOLCO Fig. 4L In-Line Longitudinal Sway Brace Attachment or the use of a Fig. 4A Pipe Clamp for Sway Bracing combin

RE: extending sprinkler coverage 15 feet beyond

2012-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
e 15 feet beyond Based on recent comments I saw, the entire space is "legally" required to be protected. When we faced this recently, it made a lot more sense to install a ceiling in the closet to make the issue go away. Sincerely, Greg On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Steve Mackinnon w

RE: extending sprinkler coverage 15 feet beyond

2012-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Yes you can, its in chapter 11. Steve Mackinnon wrote: Hello everyone, Question, I have a janitor's closet in the middle of two locker/bathrooms, the GC didn't extend the walls of the janitor's closet to the deck leaving the deck exposed, just in the closet (finished ceilings

extending sprinkler coverage 15 feet beyond

2012-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Hello everyone, Question, I have a janitor's closet in the middle of two locker/bathrooms, the GC didn't extend the walls of the janitor's closet to the deck leaving the deck exposed, just in the closet (finished ceilings in locker/bathrooms)... I remember a while back being told you can protect

RE: Up-Right ESFR K17 AH

2011-11-29 Thread Steve Mackinnon
I haven't used them either, but I did do some light reading on the topic recently; Cons: must be raised (sprig's or candle sticks) above piping 3" and larger Pro: eliminate some obstruction rules vs pendent ESFR heads Customer gains more storage room (sprinkler head in upright position vs pe

RE: Water Curtain's

2011-11-16 Thread Steve Mackinnon
s that could come into play so use this information with caution. Hope it helps Justin Reid On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Steve Mackinnon wrote: > When are water curtain's required? > > > > I have a two level gym with an open staircase in the middle. The floor > has tw

Water Curtain's

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Mackinnon
When are water curtain's required? I have a two level gym with an open staircase in the middle. The floor has two rated staircases, one either side of the floor. Am I to provide a water curtain for the open staircase? Opening is 13 f x 10 ft. It seams 8.15.4.4 requires me to provide one... plea