Re: signature [was: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]]

2003-09-08 Thread Ted Husted
Consider it under the ASL =:0) http://apache.org/LICENSE My favorite motto is by Devo: Duty now for the future. Mainguy, Mike wrote: Ted, I may adopt the last line of this email to be my signature as it accurately reflects my experience with IT. No matter what we use today, sooner or later I'm

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread Ted Husted
Robert Leland wrote: Joe: Thanks, I was hoping you would chime in ! It looks like you used maven for your site, and I prefer your color scheme over the standard... Which is here, if anyone was wondering: http://demo.jgsullivan.com/struts/ -T.

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread Ted Husted
Joe Germuska wrote: It will be some mildly tedious work to move the current doc to xdocs, but nothing too bad, and if they are valid xhtml, it will be much easier. The documentation is all XML now. Steve was just tweaking the XLS. There's a bit of HTML/XHTML in the sample applications, but

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread Robert Leland
Ted Husted wrote: Joe Germuska wrote: It will be some mildly tedious work to move the current doc to xdocs, but nothing too bad, and if they are valid xhtml, it will be much easier. The documentation is all XML now. Steve was just tweaking the XLS. There's a bit of HTML/XHTML in the sample

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread Joe Germuska
I don't actually care, and, lacking a basis of comparison, I don't even know if what we have now is broken. Will Maven or Forrest be less work? If so, great. Personally, I don't care about the look and feel issues. It looks the way it looks. I just want to know if it will make better use of

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread David Graham
Visually, I'm not a huge fan of either system's default LF, but I don't dislike either of them enough to vote -1 on that basis. My understanding is that there is some room for customization with either, though, if we wanted to expend the effort to manage our own LF. The argument for

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread adam kramer
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Joe Germuska wrote: One big gain from going to Maven is that it makes the barrier to working with the code very low. Long-time committers may not remember so well, but it takes a fair bit of configuration to get a Struts build working. Meanwhile, Maven downloads all the

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread Ted Husted
David Graham wrote: I was under the impression that the blue/grey lf was the new Jakarta standard that sites would be moving to. Maybe it's just the default Maven lf that no one ever bothered to customize. Both the Maven and Forrest lf are fine with me; I'm just a big fan of consistency so if

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-07 Thread Ted Husted
Robert Leland wrote: I am strongly in favor of moving to maven now, and will help where I can. My only concern is that we continue to view Struts 1.x as being evolutionary mode. If we have a consensus on this point, then we should all be careful that we do nothing that will break the build or

RE: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Steve Raeburn
: September 5, 2003 10:43 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML] Steve Raeburn wrote: I have committed the first step in transitioning the web site documentation to valid XHTML. As far as I know we were planning to move

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Ted Husted
Robert Leland wrote: Do we want to hold a formal vote/lazy consensus on what doc system we are moving to ? Don already put the Struts SourceForge site on Forrest, so I would lean in that direction. http://struts.sourceforge.net/ http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ -Ted.

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread David Graham
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Leland wrote: Do we want to hold a formal vote/lazy consensus on what doc system we are moving to ? Don already put the Struts SourceForge site on Forrest, so I would lean in that direction. Does Forrest require that look and feel? If

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
of web site docs to XHTML] --- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Leland wrote: Do we want to hold a formal vote/lazy consensus on what doc system we are moving to ? Don already put the Struts SourceForge site on Forrest, so I would lean in that direction. Does

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Robert Leland
Robert Leland wrote: Steve Raeburn wrote: I have committed the first step in transitioning the web site documentation to valid XHTML. As far as I know we were planning to move over to Maven or forrest. I have been working on Mavenizing items as I can. Instead of doing the stylesheets maybe

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Robert Leland
site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML] --- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Leland wrote: Do we want to hold a formal vote/lazy consensus on what doc system we are moving to ? Don already put the Struts SourceForge site on Forrest, so I would lean in that direction

RE: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread James Mitchell
-Original Message- From: Robert Leland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:16 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML] Robert Leland wrote: Steve Raeburn wrote: I have committed

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Joe Germuska
At 14:23 -0400 9/6/03, Robert Leland wrote: We can always start a struts-2 web site and tweak it until we like what we have, or until it works, which ever comes first ! I also wouldn't want to maintain a seperate look and feel except to move the blasted [powered by Maven] icon to the bottom

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Robert Leland
Joe Germuska wrote: At 14:23 -0400 9/6/03, Robert Leland wrote: We can always start a struts-2 web site and tweak it until we like what we have, or until it works, which ever comes first ! I also wouldn't want to maintain a seperate look and feel except to move the blasted [powered by

RE: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Steve Raeburn
. Steve -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 6, 2003 11:13 AM To: Struts Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML] On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, David Graham wrote: Date: Sat

Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-06 Thread Ted Husted
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Or, to put it another way, using Maven as a build system will give us a website/docs publishing system for free. Well, last I knew, TANSTAAFL. =:) It's nice that Maven has a build system, so long as it's a build system that fits our needs. Likewise, it's nice that

Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML

2003-09-05 Thread David Graham
--- Steve Raeburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have committed the first step in transitioning the web site documentation to valid XHTML. All documents should now validate as XHTML 1.0 Transitional. If any have slipped through the net, please feel free to let me know. Next steps: -

RE: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML

2003-09-05 Thread Steve Raeburn
-Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 5, 2003 4:29 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML Are you sure about this? Are you saying that pulliblah/li/ul/p is invalid? David I'm afraid so. p can

RE: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML

2003-09-05 Thread Steve Raeburn
FYI, even looking back at HTML 4.0, p could only contain inline elements. http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-html40-19980424/struct/text.html#edef-P That's what I love about this job - you never stop finding out you've been doing it all wrong :-) Steve

Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

2003-09-05 Thread Robert Leland
Steve Raeburn wrote: I have committed the first step in transitioning the web site documentation to valid XHTML. As far as I know we were planning to move over to Maven or forrest. I have been working on Mavenizing items as I can. Instead of doing the stylesheets maybe your efforts could be