Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Peter A. Pilgrim wrote: > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:22:12 +0100 > From: Peter A. Pilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where is Str

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Peter A. Pilgrim wrote: > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:15:38 +0100 > From: Peter A. Pilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where is Struts

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Ted Husted
Sorry to confuse you, Peter. Apparently, I'm not being clear. FormProc is a SourceForge project . It's a mature library that is used by the JPublish Framework and distributed under the Apache License. It is designed to capture a list of parameters, validate tho

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Peter A. Pilgrim
Ted Husted wrote: The browsers universally accept HTML documents as output over HTTP, but they do not input HTML or XML, but a simple list of parameters. We've been experimenting with transforming that list into JavaBeans, and I'm not sure that the experiment has succeeded. It made writing tags

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Ted Husted
The browsers universally accept HTML documents as output over HTTP, but they do not input HTML or XML, but a simple list of parameters. We've been experimenting with transforming that list into JavaBeans, and I'm not sure that the experiment has succeeded. It made writing tags more convenient b

RE: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Andrew Hill
September 2003 18:22 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Where is Struts 2 going? Ted Husted wrote: > I working on something similar right now too, but using the FormProc > package. I believe that we should represent entire input form in XML, > including things like the default control

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Peter A. Pilgrim
Ted Husted wrote: I working on something similar right now too, but using the FormProc package. I believe that we should represent entire input form in XML, including things like the default control type and field labels, and so forth, along with prompts, error messages, validations, and type

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Peter A. Pilgrim
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Mete Kural wrote: --///-- The best way to get involved would be to check out CVS sources for both jakarta-struts and jakarta-commons-sandbox, become familiar with the code referenced above, and start making suggestions and improvements. A really go

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-17 Thread David Graham
--- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I working on something similar right now too, but using the FormProc > package. I believe that we should represent entire input form in XML, > including things like the default control type and field labels, and so > forth, along with prompts, error

RE: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-17 Thread Mike Jasnowski
render the final HTML output. -Original Message- From: Don Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:04 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Where is Struts 2 going? In the aforementioned stxx (http://stxx.sf.net) project, I've been working on combin

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Ted Husted
I working on something similar right now too, but using the FormProc package. I believe that we should represent entire input form in XML, including things like the default control type and field labels, and so forth, along with prompts, error messages, validations, and type conversions. Ideal

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Don Brown
In the aforementioned stxx (http://stxx.sf.net) project, I've been working on combining Struts with xmlforms (http://www.xmlform.org) to create Struts ActionForms that use plain XML as the model. Using pure XML as the model has several advantages over javabeans I believe: - Quicker development -

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread BaTien Duong
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Mete Kural wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:14:03 +0100 From: Mete Kural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: R

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Mete Kural wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:14:03 +0100 > From: Mete Kural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Mete Kural
Great! I read the whiteboard. Do you know when the development for the portlet related aspects of Struts 2.0 may begin. I know that there are some Jetspeed developers who are interested in contributing to a project that aims to turn Struts into a portlet framework. I think that adding more commi

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread David Graham
--- Mete Kural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Struts developers, > > What will the role of the JSR-168 Portlet specification be for Struts 2? > Will Struts 2 be a hybrid framework for both portlet applications and > plain servlet applications? That's the current goal. If we design the reques

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Joe Germuska
At 10:25 +0100 9/16/03, Mete Kural wrote: What will the role of the JSR-168 Portlet specification be for Struts 2? Will Struts 2 be a hybrid framework for both portlet applications and plain servlet applications? From http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/status.html: Target features [for Struts 2.x]

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Mete Kural
Hello Struts developers, What will the role of the JSR-168 Portlet specification be for Struts 2? Will Struts 2 be a hybrid framework for both portlet applications and plain servlet applications? Thanks, Mete - To unsubscribe,

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-15 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Niall Pemberton wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:15:46 +0100 > From: Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where is Str

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-15 Thread Niall Pemberton
- Original Message - From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Where is Struts 2 going? > It's been quite interesting to watch how t

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread Ted Husted
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > * As a completely new and separate project, commissioned through > the Apache incubator process, with an ultimate destination of > either Jakarta (as a subproject parallel to Struts) or as a > completely separate "Apache Faces" project with its own PMC (like > A

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Ted Husted wrote: > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 17:12:51 -0400 > From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread Ted Husted
Ted Husted wrote: Personally, I would suggest that if people were interested in an Apache implementation of JavaServer Faces Neglected to mention that there is, of course, the MyFaces project at SourceForge but current work is under the LGPL.

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread Ted Husted
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Niall Pemberton wrote: I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but doesn't Struts overlap to some degree with JavaServer Faces and wasn't there talk of perhaps Struts evolving to be a implementation of JavaServer Faces? Craig R. McClanahan wrote: That's certainly a possibile

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread Vic Cekvenich
My wish list: - Multi protocol support, with a "default" implementation/support for XML-RPC. HTTP/HTML is ... so 80's. Light Services will be big in 2K. - Multi container support. Ex: PicoContainer. Servlet containers web.xml is so ... 90's. (Maybe make Pico or IoC the "default" container.) -

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, robert burrell donkin wrote: > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:13:02 +0100 > From: robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Niall Pemberton wrote: > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 02:58:28 +0100 > From: Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where is Strut

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 12:01 AM, Jing Zhou wrote: 4) We could add more... (like portlets) (this is probably a bit left field but you need to make time to dream...) i'm a big fan of cocoon and have some idea about when webservices are the answer but one idea i've been turning over in

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-12 Thread Jing Zhou
> Personally, I'd like to start the work on 2.x by defining the use-cases > or stories that we'd like the framework to realize. Ideally, we should > be able to trace each feature back to its use-case. Then, I'd suggest we > build the framework up, story by story, test by test. > > Here's some ear

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
- Original Message - From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: Re: Where is Struts 2 going? > Personally, I'd like to start the work on 2.x by defining the use-

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-12 Thread Ted Husted
Deane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:36 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Where is Struts 2 going? Where the heck is this new Commons-Chain? I don't see it in CVS or on the website. Sounds like the next big thing from Jakarta. -- Ted Husted, Juni

RE: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-12 Thread Norm Deane
; To: Struts Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Where is Struts 2 going? > > > I think it?s in the sandbox area > > -Original Message- > From: Norm Deane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:36 PM > To: 'Struts Developers

RE: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-12 Thread Mike Jasnowski
I think it?s in the sandbox area -Original Message- From: Norm Deane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:36 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Where is Struts 2 going? Where the heck is this new Commons-Chain? I don't see it in CVS or

RE: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-12 Thread Norm Deane
L PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:28 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: Where is Struts 2 going? > > > Personally, I'd like to start the work on 2.x by defining the > use-cases > or stories that we'd like the framework to realize. Ideally,

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-12 Thread Ted Husted
Personally, I'd like to start the work on 2.x by defining the use-cases or stories that we'd like the framework to realize. Ideally, we should be able to trace each feature back to its use-case. Then, I'd suggest we build the framework up, story by story, test by test. Here's some early work al

Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-11 Thread Jing Zhou
I believe this topic has been discussed hundreds of times in different subjects. One of important tasks for a new version is to identify concept leaps. This is the place I would like to entertain your brain - hope everyone to have a brainstorm on what are really the innovative ideas to be built in