RE: struts-workflow (Re: OT: Struts JSR?)

>>1:There is no overlap as there does not seem to be any development >>going on about WorkFlow area in struts. >I think you are correct; people seem to be gravitating to struts-workflow. This makes my life easier now that I know there is no overlap. >I'm not sure which

struts-workflow (Re: OT: Struts JSR?)

1:There is no overlap as there does not seem to be any development going on about WorkFlow area in struts. I think you are correct; people seem to be gravitating to struts-workflow. 2:While brousing through struts-dev archive, I came aross many threads where the topic of a workflow like concept

Re: OT: Struts JSR?(struts-workflow)

Hello Ted, I am working with the struts workflow for sometime now and have taken up the responsibility of porting it to sourceforge as the lead commiter(Matthias bauer)has moved on to some other area of development. So this makes me perticularly interested in this topic. Like you said,&quo

Re: [chain] Chain as a mini-workflow engine?

Quoting Jeff Caddel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's striking me that my chain-config.xml files are looking somewhat > similar to the example workflow xml file over in the sandbox/workflow area. > There are indeed some overlaps in concept ... after all, I didn't forget

Re: [chain] Chain as a mini-workflow engine?

I thought about that too, but in the end, I think the chain is a little to inflexible for application workflow. Most workflows that I deal with are more than a simple linear execution of actions and while you can get the chain to branch by manipulating key values in the context, it is kinda

[chain] Chain as a mini-workflow engine?

It's striking me that my chain-config.xml files are looking somewhat similar to the example workflow xml file over in the sandbox/workflow area. In addition ComposableRequestProcessor by it's very name has a workflow-ish ring to it. A "ComposableBusinessLogicInvoker" see

[Struts Workflow Extension] Any volunteers for further development and maintenance?

Hi everybody, I am looking for someone who would like to take over further development and responsibility for the Struts Workflow Extension. The reason I am looking for someone volunteering to do that is simple: I will quit my job at the end of this year and will work in a different area than

Re: Workflow for Struts

Ted Husted wrote: The thing I keep coming back to is whether workflows are a Struts problem." Agree! that Workflow, PageFlow are not a Struts... or a problem. In greenscreens(Cobol), we had (work)flow, chose menu 1-12, then 1-6, etc. The programers is in control of next step. Web is

RE: Workflow for Struts

- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:58 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Workflow for Struts The thing I keep coming back to is whether workflows are a Struts problem. I would agree that multipage form *wizards* that collect input are

RE: Workflow for Struts

Actually I completely agree that business controllers and workflows belong outside of Struts. I think the problem though lies in the word workflow. Pageflow is not intended to actually do business work, but to extend the functionality of the web specific portion of the problem. As a matter of fact

RE: Workflow for Struts

From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:51 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Workflow for Struts Is the new one part of the Struts SourceForge PageFlow releases? I'm not seeing a newer one at this time. I did try downloading and deploying it aga

Re: Workflow for Struts

At 12:58 -0400 8/3/03, Ted Husted wrote: AFAIK, there really aren't any open-source business application controller frameworks "out there" now, and Struts often ends up filling this void. Before we talk about extending Struts so that it encroaches on business application space, perhaps we should

Re: Workflow for Struts

teams, and perhaps it's time that we addressed it head-on. We've been drifting in this direction by moving many of our utilities to the Commons, and splitting packages like the Validator in to a Commons component and a dependent Struts components. Before we think about adding anything li

Re: Workflow for Struts

eflows. I have downloaded it and tried it on Tomcat4.1 and Jboss 3. Paul T Smith -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:08 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Workflow for Struts Paul, I tried

RE: Workflow for Struts

EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:08 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Workflow for Struts Paul, I tried to deploy the example <http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/struts/pfexample.zip?download <http://prdownloads.sourc

Workflow Demo

The example has been updated, but there are still a couple of actions on it that don't work properly. The main menu logoff function and editing a subscription are on my list to fix today. Paul T Smith

RE: Workflow for Struts

EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:08 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Workflow for Struts Paul, I tried to deploy the example <http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/struts/pfexample.zip?download> under a fresh install of Tomcat 4.1.27 (full boat), but it loops end

Re: Workflow for Struts

Paul, I tried to deploy the example under a fresh install of Tomcat 4.1.27 (full boat), but it loops endlessly with these messages: DEBUG [HostConfig[localhost]] (Digester.java:1255) - New match='pageflow/flow/ page-instance/

Workflow for Struts

Dear Struts Dev, I have launched a sub-project at the struts sourceforge site which provides workflow functionality for struts. Essentially it is a re-write of the struts controller and provides a significant set of additional features. I am currently working on finalizing the struts example and

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 16697] - Newbie FAQ - How can i create a wizard workflow

gzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16697 Newbie FAQ - How can i create a wizard workflow [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|struts- |[EMAIL PRO

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 16697] New: - Newbie FAQ - How can i create a wizard workflow

gzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16697 Newbie FAQ - How can i create a wizard workflow Summary: Newbie FAQ - How can i create a wizard workflow Product: Struts Version: Unknown Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: Enhan

Struts Version 2 Proposal - Workflow and extra

Dear Struts Commiters, I know that the current focus is on finalizing Struts 1.1, but I would like to propose a design for version 2.0. I have taken the commons-workflow package and built on top of it a package which I have been calling PageFlow. The modifications Ive made basically "webify

cvs commit: jakarta-struts/contrib/workflow ActivityAction.java RegistryServlet.java

rleland 2002/12/07 23:28:11 Modified:contrib/workflow ActivityAction.java RegistryServlet.java Log: Remove unused import statements & remove old Digester detail call. Revision ChangesPath 1.2 +10 -10jakarta-struts/contrib/workflow/ActivityAction.

[Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Workflow Extension Package 0.9.3]

Hi everybody! I just released Version 0.9.3 of the Struts Workflow Extension Package. There are no code changes in the package. So why a new version? * I added instructions for using the test application with Struts 1.1 to the file INSTALL.TXT, because some users told me that it was

[ANNOUNCE] Struts Workflow Extension Package 0.9.2

To all struts users! I just released the Bugfix-Version 0.9.2 of the Struts Workflow Extension Package. The release received the following changes: * fix for a bug that caused an exception in GenericAction in very special configuration situations * bugfix in the test application's web.xml

Can I help with struts-workflow?

Hi Craig! First of all congrats on some fine software! Ive been checking out struts for the last week and I found it a really cool framework: not only that, but extremely well documented. Ive been diging into the workflow proposal (this is where I think I could be of help). Ive got the CVS

Workflow management

Subject: Workflow management From: "Emmanuel Cornette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> === Hi, I'm currently working on a project in which we will most probably use struts as MVC Framework. I've seen your plans for a workflow management module. As we will need such module in yo

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 5263] - Can't build Struts WorkFlow component

gzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5263 Can't build Struts WorkFlow component [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

Re: WorkFlow

The core workflow development is happening in Jakarta Commons, so you might want to take a look at what's happening over there. -- Martin Cooper - Original Message - From: "Scott Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002

WorkFlow

Is this the correct list to get involved with the workflow development ? Scott Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Session and workflow control

** Note: This e-mail is subject to the disclaimer contained at the bottom of this message. ** : Hi, If you would like to take the advantage of Websph

Session and workflow control

Hello, I´m designing a Struts based web application that will be hosted in a Websphere J2EE App Server. What´s the best approach for session and transactions workflow: Should I put the execution of the action Workflow and session data in the Web Container (Servlet Context) or EJB

Re: Workflow/Pageflow proposal

It's a six-of-one, half-a-dozen of the other issue, but I would tend to say that the controller's job is to forward to a particular page in a particular workflow. That this page shares attributes with some other page might be a coincidence of design. So, I kind of think that the Tile

Re: Workflow/Pageflow proposal

st another workflow element per se... to me it seems the controller servlet must take into account more than just the fromPage-Action-toPage notion. - Original Message - From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Workflow/Pageflow proposal

are the same page with different SaveButtons. Obviously, this is not presented as a omnibus solution to workflow, but simply to point out that part of our problem is the monolithic way HTML treats pages. In this particular example, the root problem is that there were several "logical"

Re: Workflow/Pageflow proposal

Actually, I have looked at the workflow piece in commons and do like the way it is going. Having worked a good deal with Weblogic BPM (Business Process Integrator) and Tibco Active Enterprise, I do have some to contribute to that package. However, I have a more struts specific idea in mind. One

Re: Workflow/Pageflow proposal

The workflow proposal originally made here is currently being developed in Jakarta Commons. The goal is to make the workflow framework as generic as possible, and therefore independent of specific projects such as Struts, while making it simple to integrate with them. It would be great if you

RE: Workflow/Pageflow proposal

paul , ted , i would be very interested in contributing to this workflow effort right away as i have exactly that task to do anyway and i would dearly like to avoid another piece of proprietary J2EE (excuse the oxymoron) from my company. specifically i would be keen to get a page flow logic

Workflow/Pageflow proposal

Ted, I have a design put together for a pretty significant upgrade to the struts framework which would meet the needs of the workflow requirements. I have set up the struts framework and have started a build structure in the contrib folder on my local machine. However, this is a major change

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 5263] New: - Can't build Struts WorkFlow component

gzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5263 Can't build Struts WorkFlow component Summary: Can't build Struts WorkFlow component Product: Struts Version: Nightly Build Platform: PC URL: http://10.10.122.112:7001 OS/Version: Other

cvs commit: jakarta-struts/contrib/workflow RegistryServlet.java ActivityAction.java

husted 01/10/03 19:12:02 Added: contrib/workflow RegistryServlet.java ActivityAction.java Log: Working drafts of an ActivityAction and RegistryServlet to integrate Struts with the new workflow proposal. These are early-release alpha files, but I thought I woudl get them up

cvs commit: jakarta-struts/contrib/workflow - New directory

husted 01/10/03 19:09:05 jakarta-struts/contrib/workflow - New directory

Re: Workflow Management

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Ted Husted wrote: > Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 14:04:42 -0400 > From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Workflow Management > > I've spent some time with this, and it's a truly stellar package ;-) >

Re: Workflow Management

I've spent some time with this, and it's a truly stellar package ;-) Any plans regarding the Registry interface and base class? For testing purposes, I put one together using Activities as a base (annexed), and reserved namespace for adding processes later. The base class implements a FastHashMap

Re: Workflow Management

A quick status report and some interspersed comments. I finally had time this evening to post an example of using the Commons workflow stuff in a web application, but still agnostic to a particular application framework. Included is a very simple three-page wizard with the navigation managed by

Workflow Processing in 1.1

I was pleased to read the plans for workflow processing in Struts 1.1 - though I'm not entirely clear on what it's all about. One thing I feel is limiting about Struts ( this surely has been voiced ) is the inability to forward biz logic processing among various Action classes

RE: Workflow Management

h. as well are others are pretty "data-centric". But then again, they came out of Oracle so it shouldn't be a surprise. At least I've finally got them away from huge, hideous ASP pages to a Java platform. :) In regards to Motes and Exchange/CDO, I took a quick look at them b

Re: Workflow Management

Alex: You need to look at the Jakarta Commons Sandbox components to see what is going on wiht "our" workflow. Craig McClanahan is actively developing the Struts-independent part of Workflow in that venue. The Struts-specific workflow has not begun yet, as far as I know. T

Workflow Management

I started working on a Workflow Management system when I recently discovered Struts along with its Workflow Proposal and saw *too* many similarities for me to plod ahead on my own. :) Our current model is largely database-driven, focusing on the business process / activity level, and I'd li

Re: Workflow discussions

Here you go: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/proposal-workflow.html - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Workflow discussions > > It may be too early in the process, but is

Re: Workflow discussions

CTED] cc: Groups: Don't Expand Subject: Re: Workflow discussions On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there another mailing list specifically for workflow discussion? If so, > where > do I subscribe to that list. I'm interested in the workflow discussion. >

Re: Workflow discussions

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there another mailing list specifically for workflow discussion? If so, > where > do I subscribe to that list. I'm interested in the workflow discussion. > > There has been some discussion here and some on the jakarta

Workflow discussions

Is there another mailing list specifically for workflow discussion? If so, where do I subscribe to that list. I'm interested in the workflow discussion. David Snyder

Re: Hope to help you out with the workflow in 1.1 of struts

Apologies for the delay in responding - I was away all last week with no access to my mail! The best thing you can do is to subscribe to the struts-dev list and get involved in the Workflow threads there which is where all the current discussion is going on about the Workflow piece. Not that

Re: Workflow Support Proposal

available. Will do - thanks. > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, John Sigler wrote: > > > Craig, > > > > Your Workflow Proposal seems like a great start. Several of us have > > played around with some workflow concepts on our current project but it > > would be great to h

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

ndbox" repository, if you haven't yet. The easiest way to get this is to use anonymous CVS (you'll need both jakarta-commons-sandbox and jakarta-commons to pick up dependencies), or I can make snapshots available. On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, John Sigler wrote: > Craig, > > Your Workflo

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

Craig, Your Workflow Proposal seems like a great start. Several of us have played around with some workflow concepts on our current project but it would be great to have something integrated into Struts. We have a few concepts that weren't mentioned that we think are worth consid

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

had envisioned...you are just further along in the implementation process ;-) I know you're focusing on Activities now, Craig, but are we actively collecting requirements for the Process side? I've got a few ideas/requirements. I've been thinking about workflow sharing (between

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

on, and application scope -- but I view those more as a convenient way to interact with the rest of the application than for managing the interaction state. ASIDE - when thinking about how a workflow engine would work, I was continually struck by how similar the concepts are to the

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

Yes. This is exactly the reason I proposed the addition to the schema a few days ago. If you are persisting the state across a workflow, you have to have some method of retrieving the state. My thought was to identify each FormBean (the data that creates the state of the workflow) by a unique

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

Craig, First of all - great job on the workflow proposal! I had begun writing a workflow system based on basic Struts Actions with a bit of state management thrown in, but what you're suggesting is much closer to what I need. I have a couple of requirements which I'm sure are not un

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Moore, Robert wrote: > I realize this may be *much* more than you wanted to tackle, but you might > take into consideration the work of the Workflow Mgmt Coalition. They have a > xml schema describing workflow: > http://www.wfmc.org/standards/docs/Wf-

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

I realize this may be *much* more than you wanted to tackle, but you might take into consideration the work of the Workflow Mgmt Coalition. They have a xml schema describing workflow: http://www.wfmc.org/standards/docs/Wf-XML%20Schema%20Description.htm. Just thought I'd pass it along in ca

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Dan - Blue Lotus Software wrote: > I've got a few ideas, and a few comments on the proposal. > > Reading over your workflow support, it looks not that far from what I had > done for per-request workflow support. You've also got it extended to &

Re: role based security in struts and workflow

now ;) - is also the reason why I haven't responded to Craig's workflow and security comments on the dev list, which I will hope to do when I get back, although at first glance it all looks pretty good.) I will try and put something together and post when I can. Regards, Nic On

RE: Workflow Support Proposal

I've got a few ideas, and a few comments on the proposal. Reading over your workflow support, it looks not that far from what I had done for per-request workflow support. You've also got it extended to multiple pages. Nice. The suggestion below, of allowing people to share workfl

Workflow help

I am finding it increasingly hard to concentrate on the workflow project.  Work has been hectic, very little spare time.  I think I am going to withdraw from heading up the project because I know Craig and the rest of you want to get something going on this.   I would still love to

Re: Workflow: Struts inside of Struts

Craig McC. wrote, concerning attempts to concoct a new scope for workflow across multiple applications: For the first, the servlet spec is not going to help you much.  It hasvery little to say about cross-application support.  ..   The standard advice is to use databases or

Re: Workflow Context [Long with code]

mapping,request); } catch (IllegalAccessException iae) { errors.add(ActionErrors.GLOBAL_ERROR, new ActionError("action.error.unexpected")); } } } } The next result is that I can

Re: Workflow Context

Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:40 AM Subject: Workflow Context > Something that has come up now and again is the idea of a "workflow" > context - more than a single request but less than a session. > > Towards that end, I've been experimenting with placing a Hashtable in &g

RE: Workflow Context

that would be assigned to a bean that requested the service of the wizard. I would like to find out if the Workflow Context is for this situation. Is there documentation or white paper that describes Workflow Context, and what it is used for? Thanks! -ronel -Original Message- From:

Workflow: Struts inside of Struts

For the sake of our discussion on Struts & Workflow, below is most of an internal company proposal from me to a co-worker concerning a simple Workflow demo.  This proposal is drawn, in part, from recent ideas posted to this list.  What may be different in what I am suggesting is

Re: Workflow Context

My group is thinking of 4 new scopes. 1) Workflow scope - last as long as the set of steps in a task you are completeing 2) our own HttpSession object 3) publication scope 4) publication group scope We are a publishing company with many reports and magazines - Original Message - From

Workflow Context

Something that has come up now and again is the idea of a "workflow" context - more than a single request but less than a session. Towards that end, I've been experimenting with placing a Hashtable in the session where I can store objects between requests, and remove them when th

Dynamic Prop instead of Workflow

Let me retract my recent offer (under Re: I'm back) in which I signed up for the Workflow project. (But leave me on the mailing list.) The formulation of the "Workflow Processing" TODO item is a bit too grandiose for my sense of the Struts mission. (It goes too far into Busin

Re: I'm back! -- workflow "include"

Hey. What a coincidence! My boss had just asked "Do you know of any good web workflow, Dan?" And then, to my rescue, Craig T. is back. Of course I immediately told my boss that Struts was the way to go. Just a knee-jerk response. I may regret not thinking more about this before

RE: Adding a new "workflow" scope type

We have also explored such idea, although this was just a discussion in our team. We however have also concluded that the notion of workflow, or "contexts" in our terms, is strongly related to the notion of command token already discussed in this user list in Dec. 2000, and therefore b

Adding a new "workflow" scope type

I have seen this asked a couple of times on the strut users mailing list. The problem this new "workflow" scope is meant to address is as follows: When a browser client establishes a session with the servlet engine, there is nothing stopping the user from opening up more than one brow

RE: Suggestion for Workflow processing in Struts

I'm new to struts and haven't watched all the discussion about workflow processing. If anyone could give me a short introduction on what has happened so far I would be thankful (since I like the design behind struts I would really like to contribute). As far as I can see from the discu

Re: Suggestion for Workflow processing in Struts

e can choose what we like amongst the 2), rather than action has workflows, because worklflows can be reused across actions. 2. A workflow should be executed based upon the outcome of an action e.g. When a user has made a payment, ActionPayment has the following results "Payment

Re: Suggestion for Workflow processing in Struts

Instead of changing the perform action, how about extending the action mappings to support workflow constructs? In addition to form bean types, forwards, redirects, and input pages, the ActionMappings tree could also store workflows. if (..) return (mapping.findWorkflow("Failure") ; e

Suggestion for Workflow processing in Struts

Currently the perform() method in the Action object takes ActionMapping as one of the parameters & returns the ActionForward instance corresponding to an evaluated result. Instead, we could let the perform(...) method return a String which is the result value. The ActionServlet can then determine

Re: workflow processing?

There's a relatively new archive for Struts-Dev at mail-archive.com. There's an older archive there to for Struts-User, which is pleasant to use. Craig's mentioned the workflow processing several times, but I don't believe there has been anything like a detailed discussi

workflow processing?

I'm new to this list, so excuse me if this has already been discussed ad nauseum. I couldn't find a digest for the dev mailing list. I was busy developing my own portal framework, complete with workflow processing, when a friend pointed me to Struts. Well, I've now convinced