I think the Recommended activities are still those which were uploaded
early just to test the the recommendations worked.
IIRC, for a long time search was more broken than recommendations
Thus, search got the love.
That being said, modifying and updating recommendations are handled
through a
Looking better all the time.
For the moment, the site suffers from being ghettoized from the rest
of the Sugar Labs site; you can get in, but you can't get out -
there's no Sugar Labs navigation. Direct links coming in mean the rest
of the site is invisible. To fix this (and the other sections too
Sean DALY wrote:
> GCompris is fine where it is; it is very well known in Europe and
> elsewhere and has a five year headstart on us in word-of-mouth and
> credibility with teachers. Although marketing/branding of GCompris has
> been minimalist, it has a well-deserved reputation for quality. I'm
>
Yes, that's the procedure when running Sugar and using Browse... which
I wasn't doing. A couple of phrases removing the mystery will help us;
it's a lowering-the-barriers issue... we can't assume everyone will
alertly figure it out.
After all, common sense tells you that Software Update in the Con
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
> Yes, that's the procedure when running Sugar and using Browse... which
> I wasn't doing. A couple of phrases removing the mystery will help us;
> it's a lowering-the-barriers issue... we can't assume everyone will
> alertly figure it out.
>
> After
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:58:39AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> Yes, that's the procedure when running Sugar and using Browse... which
> I wasn't doing. A couple of phrases removing the mystery will help us;
> it's a lowering-the-barriers issue... we can't assume everyone will
> alertly figure it out.
umm... I'm trying to understand how that assists in keeping Activities
up-to-date... what plays the role of the FF browser, phoning in for
version availability?
thanks
Sean
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:04 AM, David Farning wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
>> Yes, that's th
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
> umm... I'm trying to understand how that assists in keeping Activities
> up-to-date... what plays the role of the FF browser, phoning in for
> version availability?
As far as FF goes, the FF updater ping the addons.mozilla.org
periodically with a
many thanks Martin for finding that thread for me, I have so much
going on I'm having trouble remembering keywords to look things up
Actually what faked me out was the fine print about XO software
update: it won't update to the latest Activity version on ASLO, just
the latest OLPC supported Activi
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:53:06AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> Intuitively, I would expect ASLO to be polled by Sugar
> machines... in clicking, I expect the machine to figure out all by
> itself what it needs to be up to date...
Definitely, a good feature to have. I was just talking about what
exi
I recently got help opening a bug ticket account, I'll try my hand at
that thanks for your patient assistance
Sean
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:53:06AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
>> Intuitively, I would expect ASLO to be polled by Sugar
>> machin
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:09:16AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Martin Dengler
> wrote:
> > Definitely, a good feature to have. I was just talking about what
> > existed right now in SoaS (which is: no working updater, AFAIK).
The patch I just sent should now enable
Sean,
I had another thought. Activities can be included in up to three
categories on ASLO. So, in addition to GCompris we could also have a
"Core" category (or "Pre-Installed" or some other agreed upon phrase)
that would include all the Activities that are installed by default.
This would s
I think that's a great idea - will be very helpful in identifying the
"classics".
i don't mind trying to write the instructions if someone else can edit
& post them.
thanks
Sean
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM, James Simmons wrote:
> Sean,
>
> I had another thought. Activities can be included
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 05:34:29PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> I think that's a great idea - will be very helpful in identifying the
> "classics".
It'd be great if the classifications found happened to, or could be
easily made to, be sensibly related to the classifications used for
quite some time n
Martin,
First and foremost ASLO has to make sense to grade school kids and their
teachers. That's why I didn't care for GCompris as a category. Now
since we can give an Activity up to three Categories it might make sense
to have one for the stuff that comes pre-installed. Other than that,
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:48:43AM -0500, James Simmons wrote:
> Martin,
>
> First and foremost ASLO has to make sense to grade school kids and their
> teachers.
Sure - I'm agreeing
> That's why I didn't care for GCompris as a category.
I didn't see that as an issue.
> Now since we can give
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 05:34:29PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> I think that's a great idea - will be very helpful in identifying the
> "classics".
I've created Fructose(but not sure about name) category for that reason
>
> i don't mind trying to write the instructions if someone else can edit
> & p
FWIW, I have tried and failed to understand fructose, glucose, honey,
etc. When I get around to writing a little Activity I guess I'll climb
that learning curve.
I'm sure it's a useful classification system, but I don't think
teachers, parents, or Learners need any level of system architecture
det
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 04:47:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
> I'm not saying the existing Taxonomy is the sexiest or
> most-comprehensible-to-the-outsider, but it's well-aligned with the
> development/deployment processes and if we promote a completely
> orthogonal categorization it may cause a
Martin,
I phrased that poorly. A kid might care that James Simmons wrote Read
Etexts. He probably won't care if James Simmons is a part of Sugar
Labs, or part of the community, or if it was part of GCompris, or if we
consider Read Etexts part of Glucose, Sucrose, Fructose, etc.
If a kid ac
I think we're in violent agreement: different taxonomies are great in
that they can serve different needs [and we don't want to confuse
anyone if we can help it].
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 07:08:45PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> FWIW, I have tried and failed to understand fructose, glucose, honey,
> etc. When I get around to writing a little Activity I guess I'll climb
> that learning curve.
>
> I'm sure it's a useful classification system, but I don't think
> t
Hi James,
On 10 Jun 2009, at 17:48, James Simmons wrote:
> Martin,
>
> First and foremost ASLO has to make sense to grade school kids and
> their teachers. That's why I didn't care for GCompris as a
> category. Now since we can give an Activity up to three Categories
> it might make sense
FWIW, the 100 or so GCompris activities have an internal organization as well:
maths
physics
puzzles
reading
amusements
strategy games
discovery
learn about the computer
-walter
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> On 10 Jun 2009, at 17:48, James Simmons wrote:
>
On 10 Jun 2009, at 18:24, James Simmons wrote:
> Martin,
>
> I phrased that poorly. A kid might care that James Simmons wrote
> Read Etexts. He probably won't care if James Simmons is a part of
> Sugar Labs, or part of the community, or if it was part of GCompris,
> or if we consider Read
Hi all,
Let me finalize this "What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/etc"
discussion :)
New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections
I think we can move tags GCompris and Fructose(Core, etc) to collections
moreo
ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to
every, or nearly every instance of Sugar?
Browse
Read
Write
etc.
Sean
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 10 Jun 2009, at 18:24, James Simmons wrote:
>
>> Martin,
>>
>> I phrased that poorly. A kid migh
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:51:24AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to
> every, or nearly every instance of Sugar?
This is "Fructose":
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Taxonomy#Fructose:_The_set_of_demonstration_activities
If you keep asking
hmmm thanks Martin for that
I guess I'm confused because for me, a "set of demo Activities" is not
at all the same thing as "baseline Activities included in every Sugar
deployment".
I mean, to demonstrate online collaboration, I could choose a fancier
or more advanced Activity than might be on a
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:55:51AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> I guess I'm confused because for me, a "set of demo Activities" is not
> at all the same thing as "baseline Activities included in every Sugar
> deployment".
I agree they're not exactly the same, but I think that's probably
because "base
On 11.06.2009, at 09:51, Sean DALY wrote:
> ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to
> every, or nearly every instance of Sugar?
>
> Browse
> Read
> Write
> etc.
At least the Fructose activities should always be there:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/f
These are not easy issues.
Fedora had the core - extras dichotomy for 6 iterations before they
combined the two. I think this was because, at first, there was a
significant difference in quality between the two groups. As time
past and the entire project matured, it become more work deciding and
Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now.
We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media
push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important.
I'm afraid "Fructose" as a left-hand category on ASLO is obscure, it
really should be "base" or "core" or "base i
David - do you have a list, or a link to same?
thanks
Sean
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:57 PM, David Van Assche wrote:
> I recommend u take a look at the openSUSE offering. I took a careful look at
> the activities available and packaged those that seemed useful, relatively
> bug free, and fun. I
On 11 Jun 2009, at 08:37, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Let me finalize this "What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/
> etc"
> discussion :)
>
> New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections
>
> I think we ca
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> I actually don't think it's that hard to set a list[...]
27 messages in this thread:
http://n2.nabble.com/G1G1v2-Activities-td1096680.html
> thanks
>
> Sean
Martin
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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> > I actually don't think it's that hard to set a list[...]
>
> 27 messages in this thread:
> http://n2.nabble.com/G1G1v2-Activities-td1096680.html
20 comments on this ti
On 11 Jun 2009, at 14:10, Sean DALY wrote:
> Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now.
>
> We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media
> push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important.
>
> I'm afraid "Fructose" as a left-hand category on ASLO is ob
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 16:22, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2009, at 14:10, Sean DALY wrote:
>
>> Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now.
>>
>> We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media
>> push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important.
>>
>
Over 50 responses on this thread :D
But we are advancing I think :-)
Sean
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
>> > I actually don't think it's that
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