Re: update to 2.2 ... doesn't...

2011-07-08 Thread sean nathan bean
WLS sent me the following:: sean nathan bean wrote: my update has been spinning for a couple of hours now... sean Originally installed manually or from a software management update? My SM 2.1 was installed from the mozilla repository, but openSUSE forgot to take out the Check for Updates me

TESTING WANTED: 2.0.14->2.2 Major Updates

2011-07-08 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
Hello, I *just* pushed (to the beta channel) 2.0.14->2.2 Major Update Offers. I would appreciate help testing these from anyone who feels up to it. Current Known Issues: * Only en-US billboard is up, will be asking l10n teams to localize for me soon. (unsure at this time if we will offer updat

Re: Really HATE the accelerated release cycle

2011-07-08 Thread JeffM
Cruz, Jaime wrote: >The add-on authors seem to be having difficulties >keeping up with the upgrade cycle, > Asa Dotzler (who is not authorized to speak for Mozilla) made a comment that caused even more corps to dump Firefox. (Having to test for breakage before deploying then test AGAIN soon afterwa

Re: Import embargoes against TB5 and FF5?

2011-07-08 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
On 7/8/2011 11:42 AM, Graham P Davis wrote: I thought I'd have another try with Seamonkey 2.1 but ran into a couple of problems. (1) I thought I saw SM say it was importing FF5 bookmarks but must have been mistaken. I know other browsers can't manage that trick but would have thought another Moz

Re: Really HATE the accelerated release cycle

2011-07-08 Thread Cecil Bankston
Cruz, Jaime wrote: Cecil Bankston wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: The add-on authors seem to be having difficulties keeping up with the upgrade cycle, and several add-ons I count on aren't yet compatible with 2.2 (they just BARELY got compatibility with 2.1). This really is a STUPID decision on the p

Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!

2011-07-08 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 08/07/2011 12:49, Rex told the world: > Firefox went from version 4 to version 5 in less than 2 months - in > imitation of Google Chrome, who seem to be incrementing the version > every other week. > Please tell me Seamonkey isn't going to do the same thing so that by the >

Re: SeaMonkey 2.2 Release

2011-07-08 Thread Philipp van Hüllen
Just to mention, that for me 2 SM2.2 (auto-)updates (Windows Vista and Mac OS 10.6.8) went fine the last day, based on SM2.1 installations. I'm actually still maintaining mail folders (well, "keeping them in direct access archive mode" would be more precise) with mails from 1997 without having

Re: Really HATE the accelerated release cycle

2011-07-08 Thread Cruz, Jaime
Cecil Bankston wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: The add-on authors seem to be having difficulties keeping up with the upgrade cycle, and several add-ons I count on aren't yet compatible with 2.2 (they just BARELY got compatibility with 2.1). This really is a STUPID decision on the part of the Mozilla o

Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?

2011-07-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert Kaiser wrote: JeffM schrieb: ...then there is Google included an actual API for extensions in their Chrome Browser. There's an "Add-On SDK" for Mozilla software that does the same. Still, add-ons built with that only or the Google Chrome API can do so much less than full-blown add-ons f

Re: Skipping version 2.1

2011-07-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Hey, KaiRo, when you talk here about machines for further SM 2.0.x updates, and elsewhere about machines for 64bit Linux builds, are these machines under the full time control of the SeaMonkey Council, or are they Mozilla owned machines that the SM council ge

Re: Really HATE the accelerated release cycle

2011-07-08 Thread Rufus
Cruz, Jaime wrote: The add-on authors seem to be having difficulties keeping up with the upgrade cycle, and several add-ons I count on aren't yet compatible with 2.2 (they just BARELY got compatibility with 2.1). This really is a STUPID decision on the part of the Mozilla organization. And now I

Re: Really HATE the accelerated release cycle

2011-07-08 Thread Cecil Bankston
Cruz, Jaime wrote: The add-on authors seem to be having difficulties keeping up with the upgrade cycle, and several add-ons I count on aren't yet compatible with 2.2 (they just BARELY got compatibility with 2.1). This really is a STUPID decision on the part of the Mozilla organization. And now I

Re: Import embargoes against TB5 and FF5?

2011-07-08 Thread Graham P Davis
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:23:01 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: > Graham P Davis wrote: >> I thought I'd have another try with Seamonkey 2.1 but ran into a couple >> of problems. >> >> (1) I thought I saw SM say it was importing FF5 bookmarks but must have >> been mistaken. I know other browsers can

Really HATE the accelerated release cycle

2011-07-08 Thread Cruz, Jaime
The add-on authors seem to be having difficulties keeping up with the upgrade cycle, and several add-ons I count on aren't yet compatible with 2.2 (they just BARELY got compatibility with 2.1). This really is a STUPID decision on the part of the Mozilla organization. And now I've got this dam

Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!

2011-07-08 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
Rex wrote: Firefox went from version 4 to version 5 in less than 2 months - in imitation of Google Chrome, who seem to be incrementing the version every other week. Please tell me Seamonkey isn't going to do the same thing so that by the end of the year we're up to version 3.5 or 4, and 5 by next

Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?

2011-07-08 Thread Chris Ilias
On 11-07-07 5:12 PM, goldtech wrote: Please explain why it's necessary for addons to break when ever a new version of FF or SM comes out. Can not it be coded so that all the tools I use will continue to work? I don't get it - would someone explain? Someone asked a similar question in the Thunde

Re: Import embargoes against TB5 and FF5?

2011-07-08 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
Graham P Davis wrote: I thought I'd have another try with Seamonkey 2.1 but ran into a couple of problems. (1) I thought I saw SM say it was importing FF5 bookmarks but must have been mistaken. I know other browsers can't manage that trick but would have thought another Mozilla product would hav

Re: Skipping version 2.1

2011-07-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Daniel schrieb: Callek, pull your finger out!! ;-) I think getting "Major Updates" out and beta builds for 2.3 going is still higher on his priority list, and he's only working on that in his free time, but we all hope he gets to it (of course, first the machines need to be racked up and bas

Re: update to 2.2 ... doesn't...

2011-07-08 Thread WLS
sean nathan bean wrote: my update has been spinning for a couple of hours now... sean Originally installed manually or from a software management update? My SM 2.1 was installed from the mozilla repository, but openSUSE forgot to take out the Check for Updates menu item like they normally d

Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!

2011-07-08 Thread Paul
WLS wrote: Paul wrote: Rex wrote: Firefox went from version 4 to version 5 in less than 2 months - in imitation of Google Chrome, who seem to be incrementing the version every other week. Please tell me Seamonkey isn't going to do the same thing so that by the end of the year we're up to versio

update to 2.2 ... doesn't...

2011-07-08 Thread sean nathan bean
my update has been spinning for a couple of hours now... sean -- Hey, this isn't my tagline! Who put this here? courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/supp

Re: Unable to authenticate to SMTP ?? #@?

2011-07-08 Thread cmcadams
Jay O'Brien wrote: I Agree, it has been doing this exact thing to me on three different computers with three different email addresses on att.net for several months. No one seems concerned. Sometimes I have to send as many as seven times before it finally is accepted. ATT/Yahoo is no help, either

FireFTP bug

2011-07-08 Thread WLS
I'm experiencing this bug with FireFTP 1.99.5 in SeaMonkey 2.2 on openSUSE 11.3. https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=24131 The original filer of the bug is using FireFTP 1.99.4, openSUSE 11.4 and Firefox 5. Does anyone see this in other Linux distros such as Ubuntu, Fedora, and what

Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!

2011-07-08 Thread WLS
Paul wrote: Rex wrote: Firefox went from version 4 to version 5 in less than 2 months - in imitation of Google Chrome, who seem to be incrementing the version every other week. Please tell me Seamonkey isn't going to do the same thing so that by the end of the year we're up to version 3.5 or 4,

Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!

2011-07-08 Thread Paul
Rex wrote: Firefox went from version 4 to version 5 in less than 2 months - in imitation of Google Chrome, who seem to be incrementing the version every other week. Please tell me Seamonkey isn't going to do the same thing so that by the end of the year we're up to version 3.5 or 4, and 5 by ne

Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!

2011-07-08 Thread WLS
Rex wrote: Firefox went from version 4 to version 5 in less than 2 months - in imitation of Google Chrome, who seem to be incrementing the version every other week. Please tell me Seamonkey isn't going to do the same thing so that by the end of the year we're up to version 3.5 or 4, and 5 by next

Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!

2011-07-08 Thread Rex
Firefox went from version 4 to version 5 in less than 2 months - in imitation of Google Chrome, who seem to be incrementing the version every other week. Please tell me Seamonkey isn't going to do the same thing so that by the end of the year we're up to version 3.5 or 4, and 5 by next year. Las

Import embargoes against TB5 and FF5?

2011-07-08 Thread Graham P Davis
I thought I'd have another try with Seamonkey 2.1 but ran into a couple of problems. (1) I thought I saw SM say it was importing FF5 bookmarks but must have been mistaken. I know other browsers can't manage that trick but would have thought another Mozilla product would have been up to the task

Re: Unable to authenticate to SMTP ?? #@?

2011-07-08 Thread Christian Eyrich
On 2011-07-05 22:46, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: > Recently my system has begun to issue the following error > when I try to send out emails on this account: > "Sending of message failed. An error occurred sending mail: > Unable to authenticate to SMTP server smtp.att.yahoo.com. > It does not suppor

Re: Skipping version 2.1

2011-07-08 Thread Daniel
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Hey, KaiRo, when you talk here about machines for further SM 2.0.x updates, and elsewhere about machines for 64bit Linux builds, are these machines under the full time control of the SeaMonkey Council, or are they Mozilla owned machines that the SM council ge

Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?

2011-07-08 Thread Bill Spikowski
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 07/07/2011 18:12, goldtech told the world: Please explain why it's necessary for addons to break when ever a new version of FF or SM comes out. Can not it be coded so that all the tools I use will continue to work? I don't get it - would someone explain?

Re: Skipping version 2.1

2011-07-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Daniel schrieb: Hey, KaiRo, when you talk here about machines for further SM 2.0.x updates, and elsewhere about machines for 64bit Linux builds, are these machines under the full time control of the SeaMonkey Council, or are they Mozilla owned machines that the SM council gets occasional access t

Re: Skipping version 2.1

2011-07-08 Thread Daniel
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ant schrieb: And no more 2.0.x updates? No, the platform for those releases isn't maintained any more and so the SeaMonkey team can't maintain the application there any more either. Robert Kaiser Hey, KaiRo, when you talk here about machines for further SM 2.0.x upda

Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?

2011-07-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
JeffM schrieb: ...then there is Google included an actual API for extensions in their Chrome Browser. There's an "Add-On SDK" for Mozilla software that does the same. Still, add-ons built with that only or the Google Chrome API can do so much less than full-blown add-ons for Mozilla products