Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-12 Thread Michael Gordon
Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:16:19 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: YMMV, but in any case, if we would not have moved to it, SeaMonkey would be dead by now. Why ? The Gecko 1.8 branch was abandoned by the Mozilla Core devs a long, long time ago. Only security and

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2010-01-12 Thread S. Beaulieu
Michael Gordon a écrit : SM 2.x trashed my address books, pass words, forms, and all of the extensions I used for creating and testing we pages. For the extensions, fair enough: not all of them are compatible (yet). And much have been said about doing away with the much loved form manager.

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2010-01-12 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:56:20 -0600, Michael Gordon wrote: I have waited several months to see the improvements in SM 2.x, but all I saw was a severely broken product. SM 2.x trashed my address books, pass words, forms, and all of the extensions I used for creating and testing we pages.

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2010-01-11 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:07:33 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: Fortunately now that we have made the big move from the old XPFE backend to the new toolkit, subsequent upgrades won't be as traumatic. If things work out upgrades will be as seamless as Firefox

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread Ray_Net
Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:16:19 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: YMMV, but in any case, if we would not have moved to it, SeaMonkey would be dead by now. Why ? The Gecko 1.8 branch was abandoned by the Mozilla Core devs a long, long time ago. Only security and

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2010-01-10 Thread Ray_Net
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, /Ray_Net/: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not this frequency, however we prefer to use a

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2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, /Ray_Net/: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not this frequency, however we

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2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Martin Freitag wrote: Philip Chee schrieb: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:16:19 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: You will say the same after switching to SM 2.1 ? Unfortunately we may be forced to do that as well. Chrome seems to have lit a fire under the Firefox devs and they plan to abandon the 3.5 (Gecko

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2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
John Doue wrote: On 1/10/2010 12:13 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, /Ray_Net/: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not

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2010-01-10 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not this frequency, however we prefer to use a product instead

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2010-01-10 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Martin Freitag wrote: Philip Chee schrieb: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:16:19 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: You will say the same after switching to SM 2.1 ? Unfortunately we may be forced to do that as well. Chrome seems to have lit a fire under the Firefox devs and

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2010-01-10 Thread Robert Kaiser
Philip Chee schrieb: The ability to import/migrate *some* data (I think global history) from 1.x profiles will be lost in 1.9.2. Download history actually. From all I know, global history will work for a longer time. Robert Kaiser ___

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2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not this frequency, however we prefer to use a

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2010-01-10 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, /Ray_Net/: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not this

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2010-01-10 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 10/1/2010 16:07, Phillip Jones told the world: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 10/1/2010 16:07, Phillip Jones told the world: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people

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2010-01-09 Thread Robert Kaiser
Graham schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: All cases where you get a list on double-click on the field are the same cases that show a selection when starting to type. Password (and user name) fields also get automatically filled in if you only have exactly one username/password saved for that

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2010-01-09 Thread Ray_Net
Robert Kaiser wrote: YMMV, but in any case, if we would not have moved to it, SeaMonkey would be dead by now. Why ? You will say the same after switching to SM 2.1 ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-09 Thread Philip Chee
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:16:19 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: YMMV, but in any case, if we would not have moved to it, SeaMonkey would be dead by now. Why ? The Gecko 1.8 branch was abandoned by the Mozilla Core devs a long, long time ago. Only security and stability patches

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2010-01-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Graham schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Could you define the actual problem you're having and what's not decent in SM2 for that matter? My personal beef with SM2's forms and password handling is that it is entirely unpredictable. On a few sites, things are automatically filled in. On some, a

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-08 Thread Graham
Robert Kaiser wrote: All cases where you get a list on double-click on the field are the same cases that show a selection when starting to type. Password (and user name) fields also get automatically filled in if you only have exactly one username/password saved for that website. Once you know

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:28:47 -0800, Rufus n...@home.com wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused

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2010-01-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:39:20 -0600, Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote: On 06.01.2010 07:13, JohnW-Mpls wrote: --- Original Message --- In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18.

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2010-01-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:35:40 +0100, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if

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2010-01-07 Thread Paul
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:39:20 -0600, Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote: On 06.01.2010 07:13, JohnW-Mpls wrote: --- Original Message --- In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-07 Thread Phillip Jones
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:35:40 +0100, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords

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2010-01-07 Thread Graham
Robert Kaiser wrote: Could you define the actual problem you're having and what's not decent in SM2 for that matter? My personal beef with SM2's forms and password handling is that it is entirely unpredictable. On a few sites, things are automatically filled in. On some, a double click in a

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-07 Thread Rufus
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:28:47 -0800, Rufusn...@home.com wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-07 Thread Rufus
Graham wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Could you define the actual problem you're having and what's not decent in SM2 for that matter? My personal beef with SM2's forms and password handling is that it is entirely unpredictable. On a few sites, things are automatically filled in. On some, a

Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-06 Thread JohnW-Mpls
In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused by some RAM weakness. I did that - no ram errors. However, when removing and

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-06 Thread Jay Garcia
On 06.01.2010 07:13, JohnW-Mpls wrote: --- Original Message --- In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused by some RAM

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-06 Thread Robert Kaiser
JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if so, about when might that change be expected? Could you define the

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-06 Thread Rufus
JohnW-Mpls wrote: In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused by some RAM weakness. I did that - no ram errors. However, when

Re: Back to 1.18 - more BSOD info

2009-12-27 Thread Ken Rudolph
Ken Rudolph wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I switched back from 2.01 because it MAY have been the culprit that caused my system to crash 6 times in the last 2 months (after I moved to 2.0). Crashes were immediate appearance of a full blue screen with white text stating memory