[Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

New tetrahedral mic and recorder from Zoom: https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/field-video-recording/field-recording/zoom-h3-vr-handy-recorder ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Le 13/09/2018 à 14:04, Courville, Daniel a écrit : New tetrahedral mic and recorder from Zoom: https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/field-video-recording/field-recording/zoom-h3-vr-handy-recorder I just read the quick guide pdf document (which is only 16 pages long). It has nice features; notably i

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Hi All, I didn’t manage to see a price. Any clues? Cheers, David From: Sursound on behalf of Marc Lavallée Reply-To: Surround Sound discussion group Date: Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 8:00 PM To: Subject: Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR Le 13/09/2018 à 14:04, Courville, Daniel a

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

gt; Reply-To: Surround Sound discussion group > Date: Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 8:00 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR > > > > Le 13/09/2018 à 14:04, Courville, Daniel a écrit : > > New tetrahedral mic and recorder from Zoom: > > https://www.

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Hi All, > > > > I didn’t manage to see a price. Any clues? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Sursound on behalf of Marc > Lavallée > > Reply-To: Surround Sound discussio

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

At 10:10 14-09-18, Drew Kirkland wrote: > >https://www.harmonycentral.com/news/the-h3-vr-handy-recorder---vr-audi >o-youve-arrived > >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018, 09:05 Søren Bendixen, wrote: > >> Someone on Facebook mention around 350 USD This is a welcome price, but unfortunately, for that kind of m

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

David Pickett wrote: This is a welcome price, but unfortunately, for that kind of money you dont get any numerical specifications, graphs, or guarantee of capsule matching, repeatability or variance between examples, all of which determine its potential value as a professional tool. For abou

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Couldnt see the cost anywhere ? Anyone know the pricing ? On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 11:20, Eero Aro wrote: > David Pickett wrote: > > > This is a welcome price, but unfortunately, for that kind of money you > > dont get any numerical specifications, graphs, or guarantee of capsule > > matching, rep

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

$349 pre-order according to this website...http://360rumors.com/2018/09/can-now-preorder-zoom-h3-vr-ambisonic-microphone-auto-alignment-advanced-features.html On Saturday, 15 September 2018, 11:35:26 GMT+1, Augustine Leudar wrote: Couldnt see the cost anywhere ? Anyone know the pricin

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Le 15/09/2018 à 06:19, Eero Aro a écrit : David Pickett wrote: This is a welcome price, but unfortunately, for that kind of money you dont get any numerical specifications, graphs, or guarantee of capsule matching, repeatability or variance between examples, all of which determine its potent

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 15.09.18 um 12:19 schrieb Eero Aro: For about thirty years I have been waiting for an Ambisonic microphone for a non-professional user. I welcome Zoom's new product with pleasure! Same here. Can't wait to get one. Wondering if a 350 USD mic with built-in recorder will be useable as a prof

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Ha - Ive used them for professional work as well as mor ehi end stuff like Nagras etc - and Ive even had a few pros asking me what mics I used - imagine the horror on their faces. On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 14:16, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 15.09.18 um 12:19 schrieb Eero Aro: > > > For about

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

At 12:19 15-09-18, Eero Aro wrote: David Pickett wrote: This is a welcome price, but unfortunately, for that kind of money you dont get any numerical specifications, graphs, or guarantee of capsule matching, repeatability or variance between examples, all of which determine its potential valu

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Marc L said: What I'm still waiting for is a free (as in speech) Ambisonics microphone like the ones being developed by the SpHEAR project: https://cm-gitlab.stanford.edu/ambisonics/SpHEAR/ I want something affordable, that I can build, fix and calibrate myself, without two PhDs and access t

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 14:52:03 +0100 Chris Woolf wrote: > How open these sort of products can be in terms of internal architecture > and calibration is another (commercial) problem. At least some secrecy > is essential to their business model, to avoid making reverse > engineering too easy... an

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

On 15/09/2018 16:12, hacklava wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 14:52:03 +0100 Chris Woolf wrote: How open these sort of products can be in terms of internal architecture and calibration is another (commercial) problem. At least some secrecy is essential to their business model, to avoid making rev

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

On 09/15/2018 08:12 AM, hacklava wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 14:52:03 +0100 Chris Woolf wrote: How open these sort of products can be in terms of internal architecture and calibration is another (commercial) problem. Ah, yes, calibration. I imagine that the H3V is not individually calibrated

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

On 09/15/2018 05:59 AM, Marc Lavallée wrote: Le 15/09/2018 à 06:19, Eero Aro a écrit : David Pickett wrote: This is a welcome price, but unfortunately, for that kind of money you dont get any numerical specifications, graphs, or guarantee of capsule matching, repeatability or variance between

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Not to be a sour puss, but doing open source stuff and not updating the documention is something a lot of us are guilty off... This is a really a sad state off affairs, and many man hours can be saved of we guilty ones made the effort :-) In some cases the code is updated but you can only find in

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 15.09.18 um 19:44 schrieb Fernando Lopez-Lezcano: I'm looking forward to buying one and putting it through my measuring and calibration procedures. Also, it will be interesting to see if for once they really have included a useful limiter, i.e. one working ahead of the A/D converter, or

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Their limiter doesn't work like that Ralf. It's a hybrid type. If its enabled the analog record attenuated by 12db, but compensated by a 12db gain digitally. When the signal hits the limiter, the digital gain compensation is removed. Leaving the adc un clipped. Its not as good as limiters solely in

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 15.09.18 um 20:45 schrieb Bo-Erik Sandholm: My only github project OHTI, open headtracker will soon be updated due to information I have recently found out. Is there a link to this project? A quick Google search hasn't returned anything. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Ger

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 15.09.18 um 21:11 schrieb Steven Boardman: Their limiter doesn't work like that Ralf. It does in the H2, H4 and H4n. Purely digital and behind the A/D converter. They call it a digital 'effect'. Zoom have a rich history with such stunts. Shortly after the introduction of the H4n, some pa

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Le 15/09/2018 à 14:17, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano a écrit : [*] find and buy all components, 3d print all parts, make or order PCBs, assemble printed circuit boards (you need pretty good soldering skills), connect everything together (again, good manual dexterity), find a space for doing the calib

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

At 03:07 16-09-18, Marc Lavallée wrote: Le 15/09/2018 à 14:17, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano a écrit : [*] find and buy all components, 3d print all parts, make or order PCBs, assemble printed circuit boards (you need pretty good soldering skills), connect everything together (again, good manu

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 16.09.18 um 03:07 schrieb Marc Lavallée: Imagine the Zoom H3, ready to use, but with complete specs and schematics, a calibration file and a documented calibration procedure, for $100 more. Ir would be a commercial success. Methinks their marketing department know quite well what they're d

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Methinks their marketing department know quite well what they're doing. I could come up with a dozen things they could have done better or differently with their other portable recorders. Still, they're selling like hot cakes. There's something like a sweet spot for p

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

L On Sun, 16 Sep 2018, 10:45 Eero Aro, wrote: > Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > > Methinks their marketing department know quite well what they're doing. > > I could come up with a dozen things they could have done better or > > differently with their other portable recorders. Still, they're selli

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

I think maybe that's a bit harsh, I know what you mean but due to a lax attitude in audio we now have a dynamic free industry, apart from a couple of major players the whole industry is relying on compression and electronics rather than design and good engineering. This is the legacy of mp3 and poo

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

At 11:31 16-09-18, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 16.09.18 um 03:07 schrieb Marc Lavallée: Imagine the Zoom H3, ready to use, but with complete specs and schematics, a calibration file and a documented calibration procedure, for $100 more. Ir would be a commercial success. Methinks their ma

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

At 11:56 16-09-18, Drew Kirkland wrote: >I think maybe that's a bit harsh, I know what you mean but due to a lax >attitude in audio we now have a dynamic free industry, apart from a couple >of major players the whole industry is relying on compression and >electronics rather than design and good

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

-- At 11:31 16-09-18, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Seriously, how many > people care about numerical specs, apart from a handful of freaks on > this list? Not so many. But I wonder to what extent the requirement for calibration for good results is in any case being lessened by improvements in co

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

kId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Sursound on behalf of Paul Hodges Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:56:28 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR -- At 11:31 16-09-18, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Seriously, how many

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 16.09.18 um 13:26 schrieb Paul Hodges: But I wonder to what extent the requirement for calibration for good results is in any case being lessened by improvements in consistency of mass-produced capsules. Røde seem to imply something about that under the heading of improvements in manufacturi

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Well i would rather be a 'freak' then! Maybe leave those kind of comments for ones youtube trolling? S On Sun, 16 Sep 2018, 10:31 Ralf R Radermacher, wrote: > Am 16.09.18 um 03:07 schrieb Marc Lavallée: > > > Imagine the Zoom H3, ready to use, but with complete specs and > > schematics, a calib

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 16.09.18 um 14:47 schrieb Steven Boardman: Well i would rather be a 'freak' then! Nothing wrong with that. More often than not, I'm one myself. I just wouldn't expect a supplier targeting a mass market to cater for my quirks and oddities. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Ge

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Ralf R Radermacher: Nothing wrong with that. More often than not, I'm one myself. I just wouldn't expect a supplier targeting a mass market to cater for my quirks and oddities. What hasn't been said in this thread, is that the H3-VR is clearly targeted to the people who shoot 3D video with 3D

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Le 16/09/2018 à 05:45, Eero Aro a écrit : Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Methinks their marketing department know quite well what they're doing. I could come up with a dozen things they could have done better or differently with their other portable recorders. Still, they're selling like hot cake

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Am 16.09.18 um 15:52 schrieb Marc Lavallée: I cut my hairs yesterday, but let me fly my freak flag high. Welcome to the Ambisonic freak show, then. :-) I always read that calibrating an Ambisonics microphone is precisely what makes it Ambisonics. I've just had a look on Rode's website and ca

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR

Le 16/09/2018 à 12:45, Ralf R Radermacher a écrit : Am 16.09.18 um 15:52 schrieb Marc Lavallée: I always read that calibrating an Ambisonics microphone is precisely what makes it Ambisonics. I've just had a look on Rode's website and can't find the slightest hint about calibration for their NT

[Sursound] Zoom H3-VR anyone?

The Zoom H3-VR has hit the shops in Europe and I got mine a good week ago. All ok, so far, with the exception of a harmless bug (file date 8 hours earlier than real time clock) and a mechanical prob (slightly wobbly fixing of the mics causing noise under some circumstances). Haven't had time f

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR anyone?

There is no plugin for it right? Only standalone. Can't seem to find it. On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 17:20, Courville, Daniel wrote: > Hi there, > > Use the Zoom software for A to B-Format conversion. > > Once in B-Format, the choices are numerous. For 1st order to binaural > decoding, there's Harpex

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR anyone?

Hi Ralf, You could also try using the Ambisonic Toolkit *Dr Joseph Anderson | Research Scientist* DXARTS, Box 353414 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195-3680 http://www.dxarts.washington.edu Subscribe to our events list

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR anyone?

Am 17.11.18 um 21:07 schrieb Ralf R Radermacher: ...a mechanical prob (slightly wobbly fixing of the mics causing noise under some circumstances). I've spoken to Zoom's German importers on the phone. They've done their own tests and confirm the looseness and the rattling of the mic assembly.

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR anyone?

Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Draw your own conclusions... I drew mine. I've sent the Zoom H3 VR back to where I bought it from. I'll wait till Zoom gets the faults fixed. I am not very eager on fixing a new product that has just come from the production line. Nor am I interested to void the gu

[Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

Hi, I've started a new Facebook users' group dedicated to the Zoom H3-VR: https://www.facebook.com/groups/902899420069659/ Cheers, Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscri

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

Am 21.08.19 um 23:15 schrieb Courville, Daniel: I've started a new Facebook users' group dedicated to the Zoom H3-VR On Facebook. Pity, really. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoral

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

Where else? Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Aug 2019, at 22:31, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > >> Am 21.08.19 um 23:15 schrieb Courville, Daniel: >> >> I've started a new Facebook users' group dedicated to the Zoom H3-VR > > On Facebook. Pity, really. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köl

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

Le 19-08-21 à 18 h 01, Jack Reynolds a écrit : > Where else? For non-FB users, there's http://zoomforum.us/ (thanks to Daniel for the link). Marc >> On 21 Aug 2019, at 22:31, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >> >>> Am 21.08.19 um 23:15 schrieb Courville, Daniel: >>> >>> I've started a new Facebook u

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

* Jack Reynolds [2019-08-22 00:02]: > Where else? On the world wide web with access and archival for everyone without sacrificing privacy and possible even democracy [1][2][3][4]. Eg. web forums, mailing lists, etc. See https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/list for examples. > Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

A real forum is better than facebook to follow subjects also to search in and find previous discussions. At least in my opinion. I personally find it hard to go back/search and find previous seen messages in the ambisonics sound related facebook groups. I think facebook is most suitable for ins

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

Have new Zoom H3:s stopped clonking when you move the microphone? I tried one and returned it to the shop. If it hasn't, it's still not yet the device for me. Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listin

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

Am 22.08.19 um 10:02 schrieb Bo-Erik Sandholm: A real forum is better than facebook to follow subjects also to search in and find previous discussions. I'm a member of a discussion group on a totally unrelated topic that runs on groups.io. https://groups.io Works like a charm. Ralf -- Ralf

Re: [Sursound] Zoom H3-VR: new Facebook users' group

Am 22.08.19 um 10:12 schrieb Eero Aro: Have new Zoom H3:s stopped clonking when you move the microphone? I tried one and returned it to the shop. Not to my knowledge. If it hasn't, it's still not yet the device for me. Mine has been cured for good with a single drop of superglue. If you fea