Re: OT posts,was: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread Steve Spence
I'm with you. with all the lists I read, and email I get, I'm over 500 messages daily. Let's stay on topic as much as we can. >From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: OT posts,was: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty >Date

Re: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
>Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone noticed >several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive correspondence >which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material? > >Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attemp

Re: [biofuel] of farmers, slaves, and veggie oil coke...

2001-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
>Ed B. said in reply to Dick Carlstein: > >Excellent post. Now you also have my attention on the fogger. I'll look at > >the archives. > > > >Thanks > >I fully agree, and find Dick's perceptions to be acutely sensible. A >fogger just got added to my to-do list. Dick, I am not familiar with >your w

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
That is quite ENOUGH thankyou. Get back to your harp, skaar, you ol' windbag. There was a young feller named skaar whose exhaust could be heard from afar to save himself toil he used straight veggie oil and fouled it all up with the tar. :-) (Er, no need to respond to that, it's a suitably crum

[biofuel] Phyllis, database for biomass and waste

2001-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.ecn.nl/phyllis/ Phyllis, database for biomass and waste. The objective of Phyllis is to make analysis data of individual biomass or waste materials available and to offer the possibility to obtain the average composition of any combination of groups and/or subgroups. Answers are gi

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ian >Hi all >Can Biod be used for Central heating? Biodiesel's widely used for central heating in Europe. But they probably add something nasty to stop it gelling in the cold weather. >I see theres many questions regarding Tesla, theres some good stuff >out there on his work. >If the inter

OT posts,was: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Todd and All, I have to go with Todd on this one. I'm about to have to choose between staying with biofuel and the gasifacation list I need to join. If the OT, political on this list stays as bad as it's been I'll have no choice. I believe it hurts the biofuel cause this list is

[biofuel] Too many posts?

2001-04-24 Thread MADMAN1159
You can set your delivery option to "digest". You will still get all the posts but all in one e-mail per day. You can skim thru a lot faster and delete it quicker. You will not believe how much faster and easier this way is. And you still get all the useful information you want and need. Good

Re: [biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-24 Thread Ian
So basically the questions ive raised are a joke Dick? see 14 15 and 18 Ian - Original Message - From: Dick Carlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: [biofuel] do onto others... > as staunchly as i support freedom, i also support respect for othe

[biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-24 Thread Dick Carlstein
as staunchly as i support freedom, i also support respect for others, and their rights. this is a discussion list, with albeit broad but well defined subjects of interest. taking up other people's bandwidth with never ending discussions on a limerick's origin or phrasing is not my idea of respec

Re: [biofuel] RE: biofuels and gardners

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Mike, Try the folowing: www.gardnerparts.co.uk/index htm e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] B.r., David Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/inf

Re: [biofuel] need help

2001-04-24 Thread tupai tupai
my name is david, chemical eng. student at state polytechnic of bandung, indonesia. i'm doing the final assignment to produce biodiesel. thanks for the information keith, i can understand the answer. the only reason i ask, is just the cost of pure methanol is expensive. it's hard too make the pr

Re: [biofuel] RE: biofuels and gardners

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Hi Mike, Sorry I cant help as I am not an engineer, just someone who has a bit of knowledge and repect for that which has gone before. Suggest you try some of the marine notice boards and ask there. Perhaps someone can help you. Where are you located? Try http://aqua.net.au/ See th

Re: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
different personal situations, but feelings summed up well. David Reid wrote: > Todd, > Thanks for the timely reminder but as someone who tends to be > > serious by nature and takes myself too seriously at times, I need to > escape > from my seriousness occasionaly, step outside my huma

Re: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Todd, Thanks for the timely reminder but as someone who tends to be serious by nature and takes myself too seriously at times, I need to escape from my seriousness occasionaly, step outside my human frailty and have a good laugh at myself and life in general so I remain at least partially

Re: [biofuel] uk methanol source

2001-04-24 Thread Biofuels
Yellow pages - Chemicals suppliers Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[biofuel] RE: biofuels and gardners

2001-04-24 Thread Mike Brownstone
David, Perhaps you can help me. I not that you have referred to the ' old Gardiners and earlier diesels'. I have two L8 Gardners in a motor launch (ML1200 old 1943 military vessel). I have been unable to locate Gardners UK for spares. Do you have any info on this. By the way, I've started ma

RE: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread Mike Brownstone
I vote for letting people say what they want to say. Besides, it only takes me ten minutes a day to go thru it all. Its called a delete button. Point noted, though!!! Mike -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:12 AM To: biofuel

Re: [biofuel] methanol reclaiming

2001-04-24 Thread Ian
Thanks Todd :) - Original Message - From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol reclaiming > > Has anyone got any Methanol reclaiming details they could supply me? > ... > > Ian, > > You will have to build you

[biofuel] uk methanol source

2001-04-24 Thread Ian
So who can supply Methanol at under £100 inc vat for 205 litres here in the uk? Ian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is s

Re: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
maybe another group, biofuelsOT. Appal Energy wrote: > Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone > noticed > several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive > correspondence > which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" > material? > > Wou

[biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone noticed several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive correspondence which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material? Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt to

Re: [biofuel] Re: Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
early 90's for me. "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > A shanty it was fer sure, and 30 years or more since I heard > it as well -- 33rpms is a hint. > Also a duo in a coffee house in Newport Beach played it in > about 1959. > > Memories for sure > > GN > > David Reid wrote: > > > > Believe you would be

[biofuel] Re: Sea shanty

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
A shanty it was fer sure, and 30 years or more since I heard it as well -- 33rpms is a hint. Also a duo in a coffee house in Newport Beach played it in about 1959. Memories for sure GN David Reid wrote: > > Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a better > term tha

[biofuel] Re: Sea Shanty

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
That's it all right. I can't recall the verses. GN David Reid wrote: > > Thought this was from an old British sailors shanty originally. Maybe wrong > as I dont know or certainly cant remember hearing the whole thing. Believe > if I remember rightly that it seemed to start with the words: "We s

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a better term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it B.r., David - Original Message - From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpowe

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Thought this was from an old British sailors shanty originally. Maybe wrong as I dont know or certainly cant remember hearing the whole thing. Believe if I remember rightly that it seemed to start with the words: "We sailed on the good ship Venus, By God you should have seen us etc. Ma

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom Ballads -- eons ago. GN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did > write my favorite book. > > "Dr.

Re: [biofuel] Pump & Motor resource...

2001-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
Sorry David, It's a toll free fax. I guess 877 is similar to 888 and 800 now. I'm darn glad I got an 800 number before they ran out. Todd - Original Message - From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Pump & Motor resource..

Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe

2001-04-24 Thread steve spence
> To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is at the bottom of every email. No one can do it for you. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did write my favorite book. "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > Yar, mate. Thet be the one > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > circumcising > > that's the one. > >

Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe

2001-04-24 Thread Rob evans
ONCE AGAIN please be so kind as to unsubscribe me from this newsgroup. whilst at the same time thanking you for previous knowledge ive gained here. regards Rob Evans - Original Message - From: sarah momsen To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:13 PM

Re: [biofuel] Pump & Motor resource...

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Todd, Thanks for the info. Took me 10 minutes to figure it out but area code for the fax number is wrong. Area code for Lincoln is 402 not 877. B.r., David > Surplus Center > 1015 West "O" Street > P.O. Box 82209 > Lincoln, Nebraska 68501-2209 > > Fax: 877-474-5198 > Watts: 800-488-3407

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-24 Thread Biofuels
For UK, I think the waxing problem is going to rear its ugly head. Re methanol - you should buy a 205 litre drum for something like £92 including VAT and carriage. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your u

Re: [biofuel] vehicles

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Ed, Steven et al, T.P. bypass filters are ideal for cleaning diesel and other similar fuels as they remove the asphaltine particles which are the major cause of combustion soot and other contamination. I sell bypass filters especially for this purpose. They are identical to

[biofuel] Pump & Motor resource...

2001-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
To whom it may concern There is a US business that purchases in bulk all types of surplus hardware of high quality - sometimes brand new, sometimes refurbished, sometimes hardly used, retired military, etc.. Much of what they have is highly applicable to home bio-d manufacture and making

Re: [biofuel] methanol reclaiming

2001-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
> Has anyone got any Methanol reclaiming details they could supply me? ... Ian, You will have to build yourself an evaporative condenser capable of maintaining a temp of 165 Fahrenheit, slightly above the boiling temp of methanol. It will consist of an airtight "pot" (except for the vap

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Reminds me of friends of mine years ago who would go to parties and jokingly remark so that everyone overheard "I suppose women are alright if you cant get the real thing". At least they were guaranteed a response one way or the other. Makes you realize how serious we all begin to take ourselves

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
Yar, mate. Thet be the one [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > circumcising > that's the one. > tommy loy the cabin boy > dirty little nipper > stuffed his ass with broken glass > and circumcised the skipper > > seems painful for both parties. > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > And one about circums

Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe

2001-04-24 Thread sarah momsen
i second that, please also unsubscribe me from the list i was at first interested in researching uses of bio diesal but i don't have the time to go through 100+ emails almost daily [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks --- Rob evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > please unsubscribe me from this group, > i was v

[biofuel] methanol reclaiming

2001-04-24 Thread ian
Has anyone got any Methanol reclaiming details they could supply me? Thanks Ian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subje

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
. > I'm going to have to give it a go. Btw, I've had a price on Methanol 100 > litres -£140+vat uk, is that good? > Thanks all, thanks again Todd :). Ian, I dont know if thats a good price or not for the UK as I expect it would be dearer over there but if that is the going rate believe you mu

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
circumcising that's the one. tommy loy the cabin boy dirty little nipper stuffed his ass with broken glass and circumcised the skipper seems painful for both parties. "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > And one about circumscribing the skipper > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > i seem to remember

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
brings to mind another scientist i've had the pleasure of watching work, "i'm not mad, i'm ANGRY!!!" steve spence wrote: > cute effects, but what good are they. Tesla went quite mad in his > later > years. Hey, at least he brought us AC electric. > > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable E

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
And one about circumscribing the skipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy. > > Biofuels wrote: > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter > > By gosh, he was a *arter! > > When the wind wouldn't blow > > and the ship wouldn't go, > > They got Car

Re: [biofuel] vehicles

2001-04-24 Thread Edward Ewert
Thanks for the reply. I have no intention of running anything other than BD. I am trying just trying to find out if unwashed BD will cause the problems you mention. I am not worried about a small excess of Methanol as the vehicle will be new. Do the fine filters you speak of remove residual

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
The rotor of the generator in CLearwater must be at least 30 feet tall. It would turn slowly in low wind. I never tried to find out who oned it or how much power it generated. But it was certainly quite. GN jerry dycus wrote: > > Hi Gary and All, > --- "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-24 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Danfoss makes a preheater, I believe. www.danfoss.com Ed B. - Original Message - From: "Trudy Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil? I read an Oil burner book that describes when using

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-24 Thread Trudy Williams
I read an Oil burner book that describes when using heavier industrial fuel oils, a fuel preheater is needed. It also said to preheat the fuel in the fuel tank with a heat exchanger. This idea is how I'm planning to run my diesel on straight vegetable oil!! Talk to your oil burner repairman co

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-24 Thread ian
A whole 'web page on the subject' Thanks very much Todd. Ive just done the rounds now from all my local fast food shops, 5 of the 6 were filled with Glee at the thought that someone would take their waste (i was surprised too) saves them a trip to the tip. Oh yeh the one that said no - McD. I'm go

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread jerry dycus
Hi David and All, I prefer downwind rotors with rotatable tower foils , I had been building them for 5 years 15 years ago. Your right, most noise comes from the interaction of the blades and the tower. Another source is the blade tips. I solved that by using single thickness blad

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Gary and All, --- "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen a unit with this sort of rotor in a city > near > Clearwater Florida. Rotor was mounted vertically -- > that is > axis of rotation was vertical eliminating any wind > direction > dependence. Where might that on

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Gary and All, --- "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen a unit with this sort of rotor in a city > near > Clearwater Florida. Rotor was mounted vertically -- > that is > axis of rotation was vertical eliminating any wind > direction > dependence. Where might that on