--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Trials conducted in NSW on their own vehicle fleet since 1992 by
Park
> >Petroleum, and in the wider NSW fleet since 1994, clearly indicate
> >that the wide range of new and advanced technologies introduced
into
> >the glob
Hi MM
>On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 20:10:36 +0900, you wrote:
>
> >MM wrote:
> >
> >> > In addition, it will urge the auto industry to produce 2003
> >>models capable of using gas
> >> > containing 10 percent ethanol.
> >>
> >>Ah, but I thought no modifications were needed, according to what
> >>Keith an
Hi MM
>On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 20:10:36 +0900, you wrote:
>
> >MM wrote:
> >
> >> > In addition, it will urge the auto industry to produce 2003
> >>models capable of using gas
> >> > containing 10 percent ethanol.
> >>
> >>Ah, but I thought no modifications were needed, according to what
> >>Keith an
GP Jessup III
I notice you've simply ignored the points I raised in favour of a
slanging match, not unexpected. They're these:
>>[pirate4x4.com] I know of thousands of 4 wheelers that take pride in
>>their good stewardship of mother earth.
>
>MM's cross-post was about future energy supplies, ab
>--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:40:02 -, "motie_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Motie, may I suggest the following?
> >
> > 1. It would be a nice idea to show some consideration to people
>(like me) with flaky I
One thing I've read but don't recall experiencing
is gum or varnish gasoline fuel system deposits
which is what's bothering some concerned with
fuel filters I take it. But then prior to local
ethyl alcohol blended petrol I did fill the tank
every third or fourth time with E-10 which might
Actually lots of offroaders would not be caught dead in the Mom's
SUV's unless it is used as a tow rig. I agree, for a daily driver
the big ones are a waste. I also agree that untrained folk storming
around in them is not safe. Many dealers try to educate the new SUV
owners and the manufactu
I also feel the need to say something here, since it is not really are the
true off-roading that is the major energy problem. It may or may not be a
problem of where it is done, but as in so many cases there are
irresponsible individuals that probably does not represent the majority.
I learne
>What makes an SUV an irresponsible car? Irresponsible drivers make
>mistakes... they are not sports cars and should not be driven as
>one.
>
>OtherwiseExtremely Dangerous offroad? Are u nuts.. While there
>is a danger is is very small for the avg. offroaders and the danger
>is to the d
Some further interesting comments on the case that Oil is affecting
U.S. foreign policy in untoward ways. I don't subscribe to all these
views, but I am passing them on for comment or consideration.
>
> Earl you forgot to mention the wild card in the bunch -- China, the
> dragon is waking up
Some further interesting comments on the case that Oil is affecting
U.S. foreign policy in untoward ways. I don't subscribe to all these
views, but I am passing them on for comment or consideration.
>
> Earl you forgot to mention the wild card in the bunch -- China, the
> dragon is waking up
Fred, Enjoy your new forms of recreation.
I agree about private property. I have not wheeled on private
property but once and it was unknowingly. I ventured down a trail
that was not marked with No trespasing signs. It was late in the
evening and I was picking a line to exit the trails thru
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:40:02 -, "motie_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Motie, may I suggest the following?
>
> 1. It would be a nice idea to show some consideration to people
(like me) with flaky Internet c
Jessup,
If you are referring to Harmon as a "Good Samaritain Green" you are
way off the mark. Harmon has advocated violence on many occasions.
If you are going to bring up the point that you are a "Good Off-
roading Citizen," then you need to wear the colors of the jerk that
insists on tak
thats cool. Ive seen carts for paralyzed, damaged rear hips or rear
legs of a dog but never the front. Not sure about a dog that is not
safe to have around neighbors though. That is an accident waiting to
happen unforutunately.
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
This is from one of the frame builders off of my HPV group. I
thought it was so creative that I just had to share it with all of
you.
fred
Since the list is a bit slow lately, I thought I'd mention my latest
commission.
A DPV (Dog Powered Vehicle).
http://www.stan3d.com/nudgecart/nudge
So I don't scare off to easy sorry that offends you. I have the
right to voice my opinion as much as others. It's called standing up
for what you believe in. Gee funny that when the supposedly
earth friendly Green folk stand their ground over and over it is ok
but when someone agains
No more Zeta Talk, Planet X, pole shift and/or etc.
Thankyou.
Keith Addison
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It is many that claims that global warming and oil depletion is
a hoax to, but between all the realities and hoaxes I prefer to deal
with this. I is for me more likable to deal with something I might
have a chance to effect, than wild useless information that are
not possible to evaluate nor to d
either the best master hoax in the history of the internet - or - at some
point as px becomes visible without a scope they will just start to say that
it is a comet and not to worry our pretty little heads about it.
http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Spence" <[E
I hope ur correct on that - however something is getting bigger very fast at
the poistion that NASA discovered it at with the IRAS infared orbiting space
telescope in 1983.
So far an object "THERE" is moving too fast to be any known star in that
part of the sky bringing with it several moons which
zeta talk is an internet hoax!
Steve Spence
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From: "William Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Cc: "William Conrad" <[EMAIL P
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 20:10:36 +0900, you wrote:
>MM wrote:
>
>> > In addition, it will urge the auto industry to produce 2003
>>models capable of using gas
>> > containing 10 percent ethanol.
>>
>>Ah, but I thought no modifications were needed, according to what
>>Keith and others have been sayin
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 20:10:36 +0900, you wrote:
>MM wrote:
>
>> > In addition, it will urge the auto industry to produce 2003
>>models capable of using gas
>> > containing 10 percent ethanol.
>>
>>Ah, but I thought no modifications were needed, according to what
>>Keith and others have been sayin
Dear Samai,
I also think that this might be extremely important for
Japan, but it could have a ramping effect in developing
countries. They are even more caught by the Oil interests
and it's big influence for the poverty trap.
When EU moves decisively towards biofuels, now
Japan will do the sam
Greetings Samai
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the opposition in
Thailand (and other SE Asian countries?) was more on the part of the
local agents or local branches, and I don't know how closely the
branches are tied to the mother companies when it comes to such
issues. We've f
Too bad. Their press release makes it seem as if the process is a
closed biofuel loop.
Todd Swearingen
> Todd, when I was a student in this department there was quite a
bit
> of work being done on the pyrolysis of coal. I suspect this is
what
> they are talking about in this paragraph:
>
> "Was
>To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
>From: Sam Jai-In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 16:29:41 + (GMT)
>Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Japan: Environment Ministry High on
>Alcohol-Fueled Vehicles
>
>Thanks for this info as it brought me a big relieve
>that the Japanese are now thin
GP Jessup III-coachgeo3, has it somehow slipped your mind that you've
stated this case here before, and very much got the worst of it? Now
you come back a few months later and say it all over again as if it
never happened, using the arguments that got you such a drubbing last
time. I'm sorry,
Reply Below
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some interesting ideas Earl. I'm going to take the liberty of
passing
> them along to a few other discussion areas.
>
> MM
>
> >Thanks for the post; it was a reasonable editorial. It really
makes
> >me angry to
Thanks for this info as it brought me a big relieve
that the Japanese are now thinking of Ethanol and
Biodiesel!
For the past three years that we have tried to launch
biofuel program in Thailand where most
cars&motorcycles are Japanese-made, those who have
always come up with NEGATIVE views of bio
MH wrote:
> Although there was a transitional period in the 1980s when
> engines and fuel system parts such as gasket, seal, plastic,
> rubber and some metallic parts may have needed to be upgraded
> similar to biodiesel. My pre 1980's vehicles required a
> carburetor metallic float replace
Keith wrote:
> Hi Hoagy, how've you been?
>
> Bit more below on this one:
>
> >Japan: Country Eyes Bioenergy-fueled Plants, Cars in 2010
> > Dec 19, 2002
> > http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=4&id=243380
> http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20021220a7.htm
> The Ja
Re these two stories Hoagy posted, "Japan: Country Eyes
Bioenergy-fueled Plants, Cars in 2010" and "Japan: Environment
Ministry High on Alcohol-Fueled Vehicles", it's very gratifying to
see that the major focus is on waste, and on the community level.
Most previous proposals have been high-tec
Re these two stories Hoagy posted, "Japan: Country Eyes
Bioenergy-fueled Plants, Cars in 2010" and "Japan: Environment
Ministry High on Alcohol-Fueled Vehicles", it's very gratifying to
see that the major focus is on waste, and on the community level.
Most previous proposals have been high-tec
Hi Hoagy, how've you been?
Bit more below on this one:
>Japan: Country Eyes Bioenergy-fueled Plants, Cars in 2010
> Dec 19, 2002
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=4&id=243380
>
> Japan aims to introduce an ambitious program intended to recycle
>leftover food, livestock droppings
>
Hi Hoagy, how've you been?
Bit more below on this one:
>Japan: Country Eyes Bioenergy-fueled Plants, Cars in 2010
> Dec 19, 2002
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=4&id=243380
>
> Japan aims to introduce an ambitious program intended to recycle
>leftover food, livestock droppings
>
>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:01:14 -0600
>Subject: [biofuel] Japan: Country Eyes Bioenergy-fueled Plants, Cars in 2010
>
> Japan: Country Eyes Bioenergy-fueled Plants, Cars in 2010
> Dec 19, 2002
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&c
>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:58:20 -0600
>Subject: [biofuel] Japan: Environment Ministry High on Alcohol-Fueled Vehicles
>
> Japan: Environment Ministry High on Alcohol-Fueled Vehicles
> Dec 16, 2002
> The Asahi Shimbun
> http://www.asahi.co
MM wrote:
> > In addition, it will urge the auto industry to produce 2003
>models capable of using gas
> > containing 10 percent ethanol.
>
>Ah, but I thought no modifications were needed, according to what
>Keith and others have been saying. Whence this policy of a major
>government of the cou
MM wrote:
> > In addition, it will urge the auto industry to produce 2003
>models capable of using gas
> > containing 10 percent ethanol.
>
>Ah, but I thought no modifications were needed, according to what
>Keith and others have been saying. Whence this policy of a major
>government of the cou
Hi MM
Thanks for the cross-post. Yes, I agree - especially with the first
para, and the last one. But Hubbert's Peak, well... It's often come
up here in the past, but I just don't think it matters much, on three
counts.
First is the idea that "known" oil reserves, and other conventional
ener
Hi MM
Thanks for the cross-post. Yes, I agree - especially with the first
para, and the last one. But Hubbert's Peak, well... It's often come
up here in the past, but I just don't think it matters much, on three
counts.
First is the idea that "known" oil reserves, and other conventional
ener
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:37:29 -0600, you wrote:
>Well, you gotta understand that "leveling the playing field" is something
>you grumble about only when the tables are tipped AWAY from you ... and the
>ball is rolling out of your reach.
Maybe. But if you can get just one person to recognize this.
>Well, you gotta understand that "leveling the playing field" is something
>you grumble about only when the tables are tipped AWAY from you ... and the
>ball is rolling out of your reach.
>
>If the tables are toward you and the ball (bucks) are rolling toward you ...
>huh ... what's a matter?
>"Please reply direct to Daniel.
>
>Keith"
>Someone please tell Daniel that any bus can become a 'biodiesel bus' simply
>by putting the right fuel in its tank.
>
>David
Hi David
I thought I'd leave that for some interested party in LA to tell him.
Keith
> >We are interested in contacting a b
Hiperfuels now sells methanol in 5-gal lots, I just got this from
them (don't try for the free samples!).
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
>Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:24:43 -0500
>From: Jess Hewitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Methanol and Ethanol
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTE
Hiperfuels now sells methanol in 5-gal lots, I just got this from
them (don't try for the free samples!).
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
>Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:24:43 -0500
>From: Jess Hewitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Methanol and Ethanol
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTE
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