[biofuels-biz] Re: biocides

2003-06-22 Thread Tilapia
Unlike standard petroleum fuels, the most effective biocides for biodiesel are antioxidants. This includes BHA, BHT and Citric Acid. These compounds will effectively delay oxidation, rancidity and degradation of the fuel by factors of 10x to 30x what unprotected oil may experience. You

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: biocides

2003-06-22 Thread Andreas W Ohnsorge
Sorry, what does BHA an BHT stand for? Andreas Ohnsorge Tilapia

[biofuels-biz] MOE Embarks on Fuel Cell Project Powered by Food Waste

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japanfs.org/db/database.cgi?cmd=dpnum=314UserNum=Pass=A dminPass=dp=data_e.html MOE Embarks on Fuel Cell Project Powered by Food Waste Date : 20030511 Japan's Ministry of the Environment has decided to launch a project that uses food waste to power a fuel cell power plant. It

[biofuels-biz] Breakthrough in Solid Oxide Fuel Cells

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japanfs.org/db/database.cgi?cmd=dpnum=317UserNum=Pass=A dminPass=dp=data_e.html Breakthrough in Solid Oxide Fuel Cells Date : 20030516 Japan's Kansai Electric Power Co. (KEPCO) and Mitsubishi Materials Corporation, a supplier of industrial nonferrous metals, have jointly

[biofuels-biz] Report Recommends 75-85% Cut in Two-wheeled Vehicle Hydrocarbon Emissions

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japanfs.org/db/database.cgi?cmd=dpnum=313UserNum=Pass=A dminPass=dp=data_e.html Report Recommends 75-85% Cut in Two-wheeled Vehicle Hydrocarbon Emissions Date : 20030510 The Central Environment Council, an advisory body to the Ministry of Environment, submitted its sixth report

RE: [biofuel] McDonald's Tries To Phase Out Use of Antibiotics In Meat

2003-06-22 Thread ONG San Guan
Hi Kris, Interesting case study. Staphylococcus aureus bacteria infection. Is it diarrhoea, vomit and dehydration? Colloidial silver (CS). Is this a processed drug? Is there an equivalent in the natural form as extract from herb etc readily found on the remote Highlands. Nebulizing

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1618

2003-06-22 Thread Mike Pelly
How about a 180 miles per gallon Diesel hybrid/electric motorcycle that goes 0 to 60 in 6 seconds and can do 80 miles per hour. Who ever said greeners can't have a good time? http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm From Mike Pelly --- biofuel@yahoogroups.com wrote:

RE: [biofuel] Re: how much do you know

2003-06-22 Thread Christopher Tan
i believe guy was just commenting on the message: There is no energy consumed simply because an object is travelling at a certain velocity; an object in motion tends to stay in motion. The above statement was not his. =-Original Message- =From: Forbes Bagatelle-Black [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [biofuel] Re: how much do you know

2003-06-22 Thread Christopher Tan
Me too, please. =-Original Message- =From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:58 AM =To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com =Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: how much do you know = = =I would like a copy please. = =Greg H. = = =- Original Message - =From: MH

RE: [biofuel] WW2,peroxide power

2003-06-22 Thread Christopher Tan
I would have to agree with Martin. I really enjoy reading the messages in this group. Not only are they informative, they are also very funny. Not much of this kind of humor here in the Philippines. People here would get offended when you say something like this to them. Chris

[biofuel] Media Silent on Clark's 9/11 Comments: Gen. says White House pushed Saddam link without evidence

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy In Reporting Media analysis, critiques and activism MEDIA ADVISORY: Media Silent on Clark's 9/11 Comments: Gen. says White House pushed Saddam link without evidence June 20, 2003 Sunday morning

[biofuel] Whose Media?

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8165 Whose Media? John Nichols, Washington correspondent for The Nation, and University of Illinois professor Robert W. McChesney are the co-authors of Our Media, Not Theirs: The Democratic Struggle Against Corporate Media (Seven Stories). They are

RE: [biofuel] WW2,peroxide power

2003-06-22 Thread Martin Klingensmith
I'm glad I could supply some warning and comic relief :) Martin Klingensmith nnytech.net infoarchive.net -Original Message- From: Christopher Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:29 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] WW2,peroxide power I

Re: [biofuel] Fumigation (was WW2,peroxide power).

2003-06-22 Thread Greg and April
The kicker is, you have to deal with keeping the H2O2 cool, because it will detiorate when hot. If your going to use a catalyst, you may as well use Platinum / Palladium, because then you will not always be replacing it like you would with some powder. Other wise use electrolysis, then you

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1618

2003-06-22 Thread Greg and April
We have talked about this one before. And the all diesel motorcycle that the US army is putting through trials. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Mike Pelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 00:53 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1618

Re: [biofuel] WW2

2003-06-22 Thread Greg and April
It's simple, he has to get were he's going in 30 sec., although I think that the latest model is all the way up to a 45 sec. duration. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Christopher Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 04:29 Subject: RE:

Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
snip As to Pieter Kools question, If the excreatment ( can we say that on this list? ), Excrement happens Greg, in more ways than one, especially here where biogas is very much on-topic (and a very welcome topic too). which is the source of the heavy NH3 in the air, is run through a Methane

Re: [biofuel] Re: how much do you know

2003-06-22 Thread mustangsqd
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Diesel bikes - was Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1618

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
We have talked about this one before. And the all diesel motorcycle that the US army is putting through trials. Greg H. More details here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Diesel motorbikes What's the status of the army diesel bike, anybody know? Seems to have been testing

Fwd: RE: [biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
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RE: Diesel bikes - was Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1618

2003-06-22 Thread HempCycle Webmaster
I don't know the status of the army bike, but eCycle is in the process of recruiting beta testers and raising the money to build a test run of 100 bikes. I'll be one of the beta testers, and I'll be using hempseed oil provided by Don Wirtshafter and processed into biodiesel by Todd Swearingen.

RE: [biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Eong Sorry I've been a bit quiet on this topic, though not neglectful - I've been discussing it with a few folks and we should have some interesting input in the next week or so. Hi, Reading the discussion generated, much are centred on the chemistry, design and packaging side of the

Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel and BioGas

2003-06-22 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 11:04 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel ... but not until the sludge has been composted. That it's rich in N, P and K doesn't necessarily make it a good

Re: [biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: What I just said in another thread about composting biogas sludge applies here - the two techniques fit well together in quite a lot of ways, and thermophilic composting is a reliable cut-off of pathogens. This brings up a question that I have: I'm not sure if you're

Re: Diesel bikes - was Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1618

2003-06-22 Thread Greg and April
Last I had heard, the troops preferred, them over the standard motorbike, better low end response and torque, actually made them better in rough country, despite the face that the standard motorbike ( that it was being tested agenst ) had a slightly higher top speed on the flats and good roads. A

Re: [biofuel] Media Silent on Clark's 9/11 Comments: Gen. says White House pushed Saddam link without evidence

2003-06-22 Thread Appal Energy
One could make the arguement that one particular reason for media silence is how they eagerly allowed themselves to be swept up in the exhuberance that lead up to the invasion of Iraq. Whether that is a result of the dismal practice of marketing/creating news, or of over riding frailty based

[biofuel] Deciding on Fuel(s) of the Future

2003-06-22 Thread murdoch
Some thoughts on the ammonia and other threads: The chemistry at present is a bit beyond me, although I hope some day it is not. One of the things that has held me back in getting somewhat better first-hand experience of this list's discussions is the lack of a house of my own (where one can

Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel

2003-06-22 Thread Pieter Koole
Hoi Greg, That sounds interesting. What is a Methane digester ? Can I build it or buy it, or is it industrial equipment ? Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands - Original Message - From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003

Re: [biofuel] Bio Methane (was: Ammonia as Fuel)

2003-06-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Pieter Koole wrote: Hoi Greg, That sounds interesting. What is a Methane digester ? Can I build it or buy it, or is it industrial equipment ? Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands At the risk of butting into someone else's conversation, I have a few links you might try

[biofuel] Problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-22 Thread Pieter Koole
Hello, I am still trying to separate glycerin and FFA's, but it does not work. Now I used ¸ liter of the bottom layer ( from the very bottom of the vessel ) and ¸ liter ( not ¸ ml. but ¸ liter ! ) sulphuric acid ( 98% ) and all that happens : no separation. What I see after several hours, is a

[biofuel] Glycerin as energy source ?

2003-06-22 Thread Pieter Koole
Hello, This is a dangerous subject. I know that dynamite is made out of glycerin ( nitroglycerin ). When nitroglycerin is able to knock buildings down or blow mountains up, can't we use it as energy source ? I know the danger of this material, so I won't do any experiments with it, but perhaps a

Re: [biofuel] Problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-22 Thread Ken Provost
on 6/22/03 1:36 PM, Pieter Koole at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am still trying to separate glycerin and FFA's, but it does not work. Now I used ¸ liter of the bottom layer ( from the very bottom of the vessel ) and ¸ liter ( not ¸ ml. but ¸ liter ! ) sulphuric acid ( 98% ) and

FW: [biofuel] Problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-22 Thread Ken Provost
-- From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:09:44 -0700 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Problems sep. glycerine You're using way to much H2SO4. A good way to see the FFA's clearly is to dilute a small amount (maybe 100 l) of the glycerine

RE: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel

2003-06-22 Thread ONG San Guan
Hi, Interestingly enough on the Highlands of Yunnan Province of China, human and animal waste are dumped together to produce biogas intentionally. This gas is then piped into kitchen stove for preparing the three mails. This is the substitute to having to chop off branches and trees for fire

Re: [biofuel] Problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-22 Thread Appal Energy
Pieter, You need to start from scratch. You've got enough acid in your stew to separate a bathtub full of glycerin. I'm trying to think if it's possible for the excess acid to become a solvent capable of re-homogenizing the glycerin and FFAs. Somewhere in the process of making biodiesel and/or

[biofuel] Breakthrough in Solid Oxide Fuel Cells

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japanfs.org/db/database.cgi?cmd=dpnum=317UserNum=Pass=A dminPass=dp=data_e.html Breakthrough in Solid Oxide Fuel Cells Date : 20030516 Japan's Kansai Electric Power Co. (KEPCO) and Mitsubishi Materials Corporation, a supplier of industrial nonferrous metals, have jointly

[biofuel] MOE Embarks on Fuel Cell Project Powered by Food Waste

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japanfs.org/db/database.cgi?cmd=dpnum=314UserNum=Pass=A dminPass=dp=data_e.html MOE Embarks on Fuel Cell Project Powered by Food Waste Date : 20030511 Japan's Ministry of the Environment has decided to launch a project that uses food waste to power a fuel cell power plant. It

[biofuel] Report Recommends 75-85% Cut in Two-wheeled Vehicle Hydrocarbon Emissions

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japanfs.org/db/database.cgi?cmd=dpnum=313UserNum=Pass=A dminPass=dp=data_e.html Report Recommends 75-85% Cut in Two-wheeled Vehicle Hydrocarbon Emissions Date : 20030510 The Central Environment Council, an advisory body to the Ministry of Environment, submitted its sixth report

[biofuel] Glycerin and biogas - was Re: Glycerin as energy source ?

2003-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
Glycerine: High-explosives http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html#nitroG There's a much better way of doing what you propose Pieter - several, in fact. Glycerin burns well, so do FFAs - the whole by-product as-is burns well, and some people are using it as a heat source for the

Re: FW: [biofuel] Problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-22 Thread girl_mark_fire
Peter, How long are you waiting before adding more acid? I think that Ive done what you're doing- I thought it wasn't separating, added more acid, eventualy got separation after I got tired of waiting and left for the night. It turned out in some cases that it only needed more time, not more