Re: [Biofuel] jatropha bio-diesel

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
Hi Gorvans The oil from rape seed and palm have glycerol linked fatty acids and hence need methanol or etanol to get way glyerine and make BioD which is an ester of acids with alcohol and thus need reator , catalysts, washing , purification and energy to mix all etc. The

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-10 Thread Doug Younker
Keith; It would seem I interpreted the guidelines too strictly. Mike; I think it's fairly obvious that I don't shy from posting my opinion. I hesitated on that one post because of my feeling, be it online or in the real world, it's in poor taste to point out a non-technical error in public. Eve

Re: [Biofuel] biofuel and energy production for dairy

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
Hi kirk Thank you Keith has already send me the book and we all thank ffor the same.We are adopting and making modification of Super Gas spherical plastic biodigesters , Rentec , Canada automatic feeding and mixing envolving biodestor pressure , but all very complex to be implemen

Re: [Biofuel] I'm looking for a guest speaker -- This could be fun!

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
Greeting Micheal I consider your group participation is very important for Our biofuel list , JTF and also for the third world too. Thanks a lot let us try for the colaborative work. Keith can surely recomend some experts form our list from your country. sd Pannirselvam On Th

Re: [Biofuel] I'm looking for a guest speaker -- This could be fun!

2005-02-10 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Everyone, I'm looking for a guest speaker to present on alternative energy and sustainability for a local chapter of The American Society of Mechanical Engineers in New Haven CT, of which I am Chair. We are planning the presentation for late March. In November, we had Ian Arbon visit fro

Re: [Biofuel] biofuel and energy production for dairy

2005-02-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
I think John Fry is worth reading. His farm raised pigs and the carbon ratio of the manure is different than cows so that would have to be accomodated. The resultant fertilizer is better than just manureing a field though. Kirk --- "Pannir P.V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello Keith and

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha bio-diesel

2005-02-10 Thread Jan Warnqvist
What is jatropha ? Do you have another name for it ? Do you know the fatty acid composition ? Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: "apccin apccin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 10,

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Coconut :FOOD vS FUEL

2005-02-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
I think coconut was advocated as the choice for a cooking oil. Also perhaps one should correspond with Mercola and ask him what he based his decision on rather than assuming he made it simply on the basis of saturated/unsaturated. He does answer mail, I challenged him on his grain bias and he resp

Internacional seminar On Integrated ecological system design for fuel,food, feed , fiber and fertilizer and Ruralization of Urban ares.

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
I from north east of Brasil and Dr T.Karunakaran , the vice Chancellor Ghandhi Gram rural university , India the person who really dedicate his for giving real power to rural poor using apropriate technolgy wish for the past 12 years trying to conduct this conference and need

[Biofuel] French prime minister plan for biofuels

2005-02-10 Thread Frantz DESPREZ
automatic translation of the beginning : Politics(Policy) Jean-Pierre Raffarin clarifies his plan for biofuels PARIS ( AP) - France is going to produce 800.000 tons of supplementary biofuels before 2007, of which 480.000 tons of diester and 320.000 tons of ethanol, announced on Wedn

[Biofuel] jatropha bio-diesel

2005-02-10 Thread apccin apccin
can someone tell me about the property of jatropha bio-diesel compare to the rapeseed oil bio-diesel and palm oil bio-diesel? thanks best regards gorvans _ Are you right for each other? Find out with our Love Calculator: http:/

Re: [Biofuel] What oil to use

2005-02-10 Thread John Hayes
Greetings, Are there any TDI owners on list. My owners manual says to use 5W30 oil, but I thought you were suppose to run DeLo in deisel engines. It seems weird to run ordinary oil. Hi Kim. Assuming you're talking about a VW TDI, the answer depends on the model year. Up through 2003,

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-10 Thread Brian
Brian - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion Hello Jesse, Derk, Robert and all IMHO, every traveller eventually goes home, because it is the

Re: [Biofuel] PH meter calibration

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
I was wondering if anyone knows what PH the lye water for Titration should read on the ph meter. using the "better titration method" Um, dunno. Why would that be useful? I have made a good batch of BD using virgin oil, and have made alot of soap with wvo because my meter is off calibration.

Re: [Biofuel] 1" clear water pump

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
I used all 1" plumbing for my manifold with 1" full port valves. The tank opening is still 3/4" but there should be ample pressure pushing the oil through the opening. How long should I have to run the processor to get full reaction? Thank you, Jeremy You're referring to this? "Re: New meth

[Biofuel] 1" clear water pump

2005-02-10 Thread Jeremy & Tracy Longworth
AntiFossil wrote, I am only asking this out of curiosity, but what was your reason for plumbing your system with 1" as opposed to 3/4" pipe? Is there some benefit to this set-up? Or was it a case of, "I had 1" pipe, so that's what I used"? AntiFossil I went with 1" pipe manifold because the p

Re: [Biofuel] What oil to use

2005-02-10 Thread Jan Warnqvist
A good rule when driving on FAME is to pick a lubricating oil with s high total base number (TBN), since FAME is consuming the base number much faster than diesel fuel does. Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: "Kim & Ga

Re: [Biofuel] just grateful

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
Greeting,Mike Krafka JFT is an gold mine of useful and practical engineering knowledge and surely the ability of the experts time spend here make this gold ball knowledge of rolling to all the places independent of north , south east and west.Surely we make here the new modern q

Re: [Biofuel] PH meter calibration

2005-02-10 Thread bob allen
cheaper, and needs no calibration, other than a little practice. Jeremy & Tracy Longworth wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows what PH the lye water for Titration should read on the ph meter. using the "better titration method" I have made a good batch of BD using virgin oil, and have made

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Coconut :FOOD vS FUEL

2005-02-10 Thread bob allen
Advocate. Although the results reported are certainly encouraging, and I really don't mean to disparage the Annamalai Researchers, I personally could only consider these results as suggestive at best. Here is why: Most importantly the trial was not blind; that is, the folks that got the se

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-10 Thread Michael Redler
Doug and Kieth, I really enjoyed recent exchanges in this forum. "I really hesitated about clicking on send" Doug; Please continue to share your point of view. I'm sure you are aware by now that I have become disenchanted with my government, my president and to some extent, parts of the cult

RE: [Biofuel] What oil to use

2005-02-10 Thread Chris Lloyd
> Are there any TDI owners on list. < Hi, I have run my Land rover 90 Tdi on Valvoline Turbo V 15W-50 for 12 years. I'm in the south of the UK so the weather here is wet and mild all year round. Chris. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300

biofuel and energy production for dairy

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
Hello Keith and our list members Can any one help the useful information to design the bookstores , Milk pasteurization and cooling , ice making based on the energy from cow manure and effluent from small milk processing industry using heat pump and solar energy too. Based u

Re: [Biofuel] 1" clear water pump

2005-02-10 Thread Appal Energy
That will depend upon how many gallons you put in your 80 gallon tank. Start at 24 hours and work your way backward or forward from there. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy & Tracy Longworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:49 PM Su

[Biofuel] What oil to use

2005-02-10 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
Are there any TDI owners on list. My owners manual says to use 5W30 oil, but I thought you were suppose to run DeLo in deisel engines. It seems weird to run ordinary oil. Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ww

Re: [Biofuel] How to run diesel engine on gobar gas?

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
Greeting to Keith and Alampratap Our university is in summer hoildays . I will surely send theses information to the list a month after as this is already published one and I agree fuly with Keith views that we all need to give and take.This is how Google win over micro soft t

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Sesame and Coconut :FOOD vS FUEL

2005-02-10 Thread Pannir P.V
Congratulation Kirk Thank you very much for you bringing this important informations carried out the university where I had my graduations and Po's graduation studies in chemical engineering in seventies. Surely all our list members can have first benefit's as mos

Re: [Biofuel] PH meter calibration

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Jeremy, pH meters go out of calibration extremely fast and without proper calibration with trusted calibration fluid you can be off in the order of magnitude range. Until you get fluids, I would recommend using paper strips as they are more reliable than an uncalibrated pH meter. I am fairly su

[Biofuel] just grateful

2005-02-10 Thread Anti-Fossil
Just a note to reiterate how important this exchange of information, and viewpoints, is for me. When I found "Journey", it was a real education for me, covering several areas I had no prior knowledge of whatsoever. I'm light years from being an expert in any of these areas today, but the discove

RE: [Biofuel] PH meter calibration

2005-02-10 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Jeremy. Some pH meters have microprocesor with values for calibration with 3 specific buffer solution of a given pH value stored in their memory. I remember some 10 years ago, I used a german Hanna pH meters have this feature and if I was trying to use standar buffer solution of 4.00 ; 7.

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
inform not embarrass. I really hesitated about clicking on send. This is way I don't care for the prohibition of emailing other list members off-list, there are times it is warranted. Doug It's not a prohibition Doug. People do it all the time, no problem, well and good. Have another look:

Re: [Biofuel] Financial case lost! was: sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
Keith, What we often forget in all the discussions, is that US no longer have a financial case against Iraq. No weapons found that could pose a threat against US, also means that US have no legal case for covering their war cost with oil from Iraq. But they didn't have a legal case for th

Re: [Biofuel] How to run diesel engine on gobar gas?

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Pannir P.V, I am very interested in what you had written in your mail. Please send the relevant information or data about the research in your univ. Please don't, Pan - if you have such information available for emailing, please send it to the list and not direct to Alampratap, or

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
IMHO, every traveller eventually goes home, because it is the only place that really makes sense. What's "home"? LOL! (What's TV?) Every place is delicately different from every other place. But, in my struggles with languages while travelling, I was always surprised to find the meaning of

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-10 Thread Doug Younker
Some years ago While I was repairing a motor control one an oil well pumping unit. Along comes a Kansas game warden and he got out of his vehicle and struck up a conversation, being who I am I engage in the conversation not thinking about it. Soon it became apparent the jerk was trying to trip

Re: [Biofuel] How to run diesel engine on gobar gas?

2005-02-10 Thread alampratap singh tiwana
Hello Pannir P.V, I am vey interested in what you had written in your mail. Please send the relevan information or data about the research in your univ. I have tried to chec IIT Delhi's website, but can't find any information. Send some link if yo can. Basically i want to run a

Re: [Biofuel] 1" clear water pump

2005-02-10 Thread Anti-Fossil
Hello Jeremy, I am only asking this out of curiosity, but what was your reason for plumbing your system with 1" as opposed to 3/4" pipe? Is there some benefit to this set-up? Or was it a case of, "I had 1" pipe, so that's what I used"? AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA - Original Mess

[Biofuel] PH meter calibration

2005-02-10 Thread Jeremy & Tracy Longworth
I was wondering if anyone knows what PH the lye water for Titration should read on the ph meter. using the "better titration method" I have made a good batch of BD using virgin oil, and have made alot of soap with wvo because my meter is off calibration. I am having trouble finding calabration

[Biofuel] 1" clear water pump

2005-02-10 Thread Jeremy & Tracy Longworth
I have a 1" clear water pump hooked up to an eighty gal hot water heater. I used all 1" plumbing for my manifold with 1" full port valves. The tank opening is still 3/4" but there should be ample pressure pushing the oil through the opening. How long should I have to run the processor to get full

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-10 Thread Walt Patrick
I am finding this rather interesting. I went back to Canada last year and both hubby and I felt like visitors. We don't live there anymore. Maybe because there are two of us, both from similar culture and transplanted together, that our new home really feels like home. I would say home is

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Coconut :FOOD vS FUEL

2005-02-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
Greetings Pannir. I agree but I want to re emphasize that I think we could grow better oils than canola and soy for human consumption. For example sesame-- http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/06/23/sesame_oil_lowers_blood_pressure.htm Sesame oil lowers BP By Kylie Taggart TAMIL NADU, INDI

Re: [Biofuel] Post Carbon Institute

2005-02-10 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Here the key links and background for the Post Carbon Institute. My comment: I need to read more about PCI efforts in practical terms not just philosphical. In comparison to JTF, the JTF site allows cross dialogue with experts and also practical know how to commence with change at the local leve

[Biofuel] Post Carbon Institute

2005-02-10 Thread Ken Provost
These fokes have some REALLY interesting things to say about the near future. Honest, I just found them today -- I've never even sent them any money :-) -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Bi

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-10 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
both hubby and I felt like visitors. We don't live there anymore. Maybe because there are two of us, both from similar culture and transplanted together, that our new home really feels like home. I would say home is where your dreams come true. Bright Blessings, Kim At 02:49 PM 2/9/2005,

Re: [Biofuel] Davco Filter

2005-02-10 Thread Philip S. Okey
Just a quick note: the last of the pall's is up and running on ebay. at the bare minimum might give you guy's some ideas on purifiers..very good schematic on there.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3871790925&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT Phil On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:09:55 -05