Re: [Biofuel] Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Rexis Tree
"A current is run from the car battery through the liquid. This process of electrolysis creates hydrogen and oxygen gases which are then fed into the engine's intake manifold where they mix with the gasoline vapours." facts:  - Electrolysis produce hydrogen and oxygen  - Electrolysis need current

[Biofuel] stainless steel immersion heater

2005-09-19 Thread Andrew Leven
Hi, Where can I get a stainless steel immersion heater for my bio processor? Andrew Leven  Vermont ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to F

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread Perry Jones
Speaking with the authority of complete ignorance, I would have to ask why in the world your mechanic thinks the MG tranny would require 4k at 60? Isn't it going to be 1:1 in 4th gear? If so, then you'd be looking at less than 3k at 60. I forget but not over 2600 I don't think. Isn't 1:1 go

[Biofuel] war with venezuela?

2005-09-19 Thread Andres Yver
Egads! Just got back from a dinner party with the local elite, and everyone was discussing an imminent US attack on Venezuela. As though it were fact. A done deal. Asking me (half yank) to explain what on earth is going on in the good old us of a. Much chatter about 'surgical' strikes. Oil. Our

Re: [Biofuel] deisel engine swap

2005-09-19 Thread d4dallas
Several years ago my dad put a perkins 354 six cylinder engine in his 87 ford 3/4 ton ford. The perkins engine came out of a massey fergeson combine, the perkins engine was also in international 2 ton trucks in the sixties, it is also in other agriculture and stationary applications. Dad got

Re: [Biofuel] turbo diesels

2005-09-19 Thread Darryl West
Well I guess that pretty much answers my question.  I may as well give it ago.   Thanks for the feed back   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Purbo J. Wignjosajono Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:36 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: R

Re: [Biofuel] advancement of car technology for 1

2005-09-19 Thread Rexis Tree
I once has an idea of a stirling engined car, this car store hot water (or hot molten salt) in an insulated tank or a big Termos flask. The stirling engine will utilize the heat stored and convert it to mobility. And the fuel bar will only show the temprerature inside the insulated tank... To refi

[Biofuel] WVO Testing

2005-09-19 Thread bio
Hey guys, I am going collecting WVO for the first time this weekend. What is a good test for acceptable WVO? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at

[Biofuel] Processor

2005-09-19 Thread John Short
Hello I am new to the bio diesel experience, through this website and others I have built a bubble washer and a drying tank. I scavange a water heater that I was going to use for the processor but have since heard there maybe some problems with this type. Does anyone have any suggestions on t

[Biofuel] Engineers Without Borders

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
Does anyone have information on this?   Mike"Al-Masoud, Nidal (EngTech)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: RE: ASME - New Haven EventDate: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:05:36 -0400From: "Al-Masoud, Nidal \(EngTech\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Mike,   Do you k

Re: [Biofuel] Rove to rebuild New Orleans

2005-09-19 Thread marilyn
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: "So according to the New York Times, Carl Rove is in charge of rebuilding New Orleans?? I think I'm going to be sick. http://select.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/opinion/19herbert.html?hp"; ..and equally mystifying, the same article says Pat Robertson's charitab

[Biofuel] Flat Panel Solar Water Heater

2005-09-19 Thread Ken Dunn
Hi all, I'm trying to collect materials to build a solar hot water heater.  I have a few questions for the initiated.  I have been thinking that my most affordable way to go would be to use abandoned sliding glass doors (double pane of course) for my glazing.  I can't imagine that there would be a

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
not to worry, in Arkansas we have never had emissions testing, and and abandoned any vehicle inspection a few years ago. No insurance, no license plates, no headlights, broken windshields, no problem. By law you should have all the above, but in reality, unless something happens (a wreck) o

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread capt3d
bob,   be sure to check into this if you haven't already.  illinois law, as in most states if i'm not mistaken, only exempts older vehicles if they are driven less than a set number of miles annually (in illinois, 5000 m/year).   -chris b.     Zeke Yewdall wrote:   >Being a 1979, you are probably

Re: [Biofuel] Q to Prof. Bob Allen Re: Na2SO4

2005-09-19 Thread Chris
Thank you, Sir. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:01 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Q to Prof. Bob Allen Re: Na2SO4 I don't see why not. Chris wrote: > Dear Prof.Alle

Re: [Biofuel] Q to Prof. Bob Allen Re: Na2SO4

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
I don't see why not. Chris wrote: > Dear Prof.Allen: > > > > Good day! > > > > Can final drying of BD can be done with anhydrous Na2S04? We use it all > the time in organic chem lab. Can Na2SO4 be regenerated, perhaps by > heating, and then reused? > > > > Best regards, > > Chris >

Re: [Biofuel] Cindy Sheehan arrested in Manhattan

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
http://villagevoice.com/news/0538,fergusonshee,67983,2.html Google is starting to find stories on it. Be interesting to see what the main stream media makes of it On 9/19/05, Michael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > FYI: > > > > ...Mike > > > > ___ >

[Biofuel] Cindy Sheehan arrested in Manhattan

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
FYI:   ...Mike   ___   From: MA PA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: BREAKING: Cindy Sheehan arrested in ManhattanDate: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:26:05 -0400 (EDT)BREAKING: Cindy Sheehan arrested in Manhattanby Five of DiamondsMon Sep 19th, 20

Re: [Biofuel] plans for gasifier cooking stove?

2005-09-19 Thread Keith Addison
>Hello all, > >I'd like to make a cookstove which burns a flame under the pot, the >flame being from producer gas. > >Does anyone have plans for such a stove? > >Thanks, >Erik See: Wood-gas stoves http://journeytoforever.org/at_woodfire.html#woodgasstoves Cookstoves for schools -- A wood-gas sto

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If you're doing a engine-to-bellhousing adaptor anyway, why not use a 5 speed tranny from a small rear wheel drive toyota pickup or such? On 9/19/05, S. Chapin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ooops, duh maybe because the TDI is front wheel drive? > Sorry > S. Chapin > > > bob allen wrote: > > >Emi

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Street
Hi Jason; Thanks for the response.  Do you know if the device incorporates baffles so that the incoming air does not simply move radialy?  In the northern hemisphere due to corriolis effect air rushing in to replace rising air is deflected to the right (as viewed from above) so that dust devil

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread S. Chapin
I'm not sure about midgets, or the later mgb, but some mgb's had an overdrive as did P1800 volvo and some healey's. I think they were all electric. I would look into mating the vw tdi with the volvo unit, but? Why not find a TDI trans to put in the midget? S. Chapin bob allen wrote: >Emis

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread S. Chapin
Ooops, duh maybe because the TDI is front wheel drive? Sorry S. Chapin bob allen wrote: >Emissions testing, hey we don't need (do) no stinkin' emissions testing >here in Arkansas! > >thanks Zeke. > >Zeke Yewdall wrote: > > >>The 1.6 liter VW diesel will rev to about 5,000. Now, it is quite >

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Besides, if you run it on biodiesel (I assume that's the plan) the emissions are much lower than for diesel anyway. My truck went from 48% smoke to 9% smoke when I switched fuels. Combination of the better fuel, and probably cleaning out the old gunked up injectors On 9/19/05, bob allen <[EM

[Biofuel] Rove to rebuilt New Orleans

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
So according to the New York Times, Carl Rove is in charge of rebuilding New Orleans?? I think I'm going to be sick. http://select.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/opinion/19herbert.html?hp ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustain

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: war now

2005-09-19 Thread Keith Addison
>Also see >http://www.americas.org/item_19275 > >http://www.miami.c >om/mld/miamiherald/12654463.htm > >Kirk > >U.S. WAR PENDING AGAINST VENEZUELA? > >Sunday, September 18, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com > >American

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Emissions testing, hey we don't need (do) no stinkin' emissions testing here in Arkansas! thanks Zeke. Zeke Yewdall wrote: > The 1.6 liter VW diesel will rev to about 5,000. Now, it is quite > loud at that point, and the fuel economy degrades (best at about > 2,000), but it will do it. I thin

[Biofuel] plans for gasifier cooking stove?

2005-09-19 Thread Erik Andelman
Hello all, I'd like to make a cookstove which burns a flame under the pot, the flame being from producer gas. Does anyone have plans for such a stove? Thanks, Erik ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailm

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner

2005-09-19 Thread Jason
Hi Joe, Nice idea :) ''>I am talking about a thermal generator. It would be so nice to have a "house" thermal >always reliable and present on the location of our airfield.>>'' The speed of the wind a solar tower creates is dependent on two main things. The size of the solar collection area,

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Morality Question

2005-09-19 Thread Jason
 Unless I had a digital camera. I'd save the film.   Jason  > In a message dated 9/17/05 6:17:17 PM, dougwrites:> > >We did?  Looks like my vote got ignored yet again.> >> >I'd choose the black and white, color film leaves nothing for the> >imagination...

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The 1.6 liter VW diesel will rev to about 5,000. Now, it is quite loud at that point, and the fuel economy degrades (best at about 2,000), but it will do it. I think the new TDI VW diesels are redlined at 4,500 rpm (with peak fuel economy at 1800). There's a discussion forum vwdiesel.net that h

Re: [Biofuel] global warming "tipping point"

2005-09-19 Thread Ken Provost
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Zeke Yewdall wrote: > it could be argued that, if indeed we have reached a tipping > point, that > preventing global warming is moot, and we should do whatever we can to > deal with the effects of global warming. We should do that anyway.. > There are other re

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
here is an engine swapping question for someone with more expertise than me (easily done); I can get a nicely redone 79 (?) mg midget without an engine. A guy apparently did a restoration job, then blew the engine. I had considered putting a vw diesel in it. My mechanic said he could manuf

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Howdy Tom, I am surprised that the method works at all. There is a fundamental problem with the pKa's of ethanol and methanol. the equilibrium KOH + EtOH <--> KOEt + H2O favors the left side of the equasion whereas for methanol KOH + MeOH <---> KOMe + H2O favors the right side.

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogeninjection)

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
> Internal combustion engines are rated at % of Carnot achieved and as I said > before low temperature engines such as powered by flat plate collectors will > not be even vaguely close to what Carnot would lead you to believe. That is > why there are no successful ones. Use Charles law and tell me

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Howdy Rick and Ken, Potassium will burst into flame due to reaction with moist air, sodium will not. There are three allotropes of phosphorous. Red (amorphous) and Black (laminar) are not particularly reactive (think of the red of a match head- that's red phosphorous) Only white Phosphor

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogeninjection)

2005-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.benwiens.com/energy4.html Fuel cells are analyzed theoretically using the carnot ratio which, it is explained, applies to both heat engines as well as fuel cells. A simple second law analysis shows where the loss of efficiency in different fuel cells occurs. Energy concepts are based on

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Littrell
 Dear Ken, That was phosphorus. Rick Ken Chua wrote: Hi all, Sodium in air will burn instantly and explosively. Wasn't this the reason Thomas Edison got fired and lost part of his hearing because he let dry a piece of sodium metal in the box car he was experimenting in. The

Re: [Biofuel] Ontario alternate power: Bullfrog

2005-09-19 Thread mark manchester
Thanks Zeke, yeah, good point. I guess that makes them sort of legit. As much as anyone is, eh? Jesse > From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:46:31 -0600 > To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ontario alte

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner (was advancement of car technology for 1)

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
here is a similar technology on a grand scale. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/01/05/australia.tower/ turn the fans off and this baby would shoot you to the stratosphere in a jiffy. Joe Street wrote: > Kewl! > > Me and my hang gliding buddies have been talking about something

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogeninjection)

2005-09-19 Thread Graeme Vagg
Kirk,   Jan's comments are closest to the real situation.  35% would be the average thermal efficiency of Internal Combustion Engines determined by the amount of work done (power output) divided by ther amount of energy available in the fuel.  Current petrol engines have a thermal efficiency

Re: [Biofuel] U.S. market doesn't make it

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Yeah. I want the 2.5l diesel D-max too. But instead I just bought a 21 year old Mitsubishi pickup because that was the last time they imported the diesel to the US. I can't justify spending any money on a car, new or old, that can't run on renewable fuels. I suspect the problems in importing on

Re: [Biofuel] advancement of car technology for 1

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Interesting idea, but I'd have to say I prefer PV myself. No moving parts. Solar got a bad rap in the US in the 80's due to alot of poorly installed solar thermal systems. Now everyone expects their PV system to leak I can't actually remember doing any maintenance on my PV system in the la

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
sure it works but it takes more energy to make the sodium than you get back in hydorgen. bmolloy wrote: > Hi All, >This thread intrigued, so much so that I posted it around among > friends for comment. One said that sodium was the answer to generating cheap > hydrogen. The exchange as

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Actually, whereas potassium will react with moisture in the air, sodium won't react so rapidly. Chuck it water and it will, quite excitingly. Ken Chua wrote: > Hi all, > > Sodium in air will burn instantly and explosively. > Wasn't this the reason Thomas Edison got fired and > lost part of hi

Re: [Biofuel] Oil shale

2005-09-19 Thread DHAJOGLO
On Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:40 PM, Ray J wrote: >You must not have read the article ***sigh*** I did read the article. I guess my phrasing just wasn't good enough so I'll rephrase: If you drill into the ground and remove a finite amount of matter in a finite volume, you are left wi

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
H? How come I took two thermodynamics courses in college, and never heard this? Then again, I got an electrical engineering degree concentrating in power systems, and never heard of the existence of PV. On 9/19/05, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for Carnot calculate t

[Biofuel] Fwd: war now

2005-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
Also see http://www.americas.org/item_19275 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12654463.htmKirk U.S. WAR PENDING AGAINST VENEZUELA?Sunday, September 18, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.comAmerican warships have assembled off the shores of Venezuela, and a war between the two countries seems to be fast app

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Morality Question

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Are Cheney and Rove with him? I might actually save GW, but not the others... On 9/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'd have to go for the high-contrast color. you can always digitize it later > and convert to grey-scale. > > -chris b. > > > In a message dated 9/17/05 6:1

[Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
 The 35% is 35% of the theoretical Carnot, not 35% of the potential energy of the fuel. And yes, the rest of the energy is in the exhaust pipe and water jacket although it is almost all heat as unburned hydrocarbons is usually not true any more.   This little measurement twist is why most don't rea

Re: [Biofuel] global warming "tipping point"

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
You know... I hate it when I'm right. I was right about Iraq, and more and more it appears I may have been right about global warming too IF we have reached the tipping point where catastrophic effects from global warming are unavoidable, even if we completely stopped CO2 emissions right now

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner (was advancement of car technology for 1)

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Street
Kewl! Me and my hang gliding buddies have been talking about something like this for a while. We are interested in using the convective force not to drive air through filters but rather to trigger larger convective currents in the air. Yes I am talking about a thermal generator. It would be

Re: [Biofuel] Ontario alternate power: Bullfrog

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
It says that they have met the Canadian federal government's Environmental Choice Program EcoLogo standards, which I guess is what Canada uses instead of the Green-e certification that the US uses? On 9/19/05, mark manchester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone else seen this? I don't know ab

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Littrell
Dear Doug, No. Rick des wrote: I recall that chemistry experiment, (also works with potassium), both metals were kept under oil to prevent oxidation. They're very unstable metals, and not found on earth in their pure forms. Hence the question becomes: How much energy does it take to

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Hmmm. Seems very similar to generating hydrogen on demand from water by electrolyzing it. Works great, but there is that pesky energy balance thing... I suspect the energy to refine sodium is much greater than what you ever get out of the hydrogen. Plus, what to do with the left over sodium hy

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Littrell
This is truly an excellent way to generate cheap hydrogen on command.  It eliminates the storage difficulty that hydrogen gas presents.  The only problem is generating cheap pure sodium... Rick bmolloy wrote: Hi All, This thread intrigued, so much so that I posted it around amon

Re: [Biofuel] turbo diesels

2005-09-19 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
I have been using biodiesel on my intercooled turbo diesel for about 7.000 miles and ,, thank Gog, have not found any problem with it.   PJW - Original Message - From: Darryl West To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 1:31 PM Subject:

[Biofuel] Grass growing one month longer

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
I was doing a search on something unrelated and found this article in The Free Republic (of all places)!   They tried to make an example out of this and use it to make fun of those who recognize global warming. So, it only seems fair to post the original article (from the source listed in the FR w

[Biofuel] New Yahoo! Group - alcohol fuel

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
FYI: I came across an ethanol fuel group.   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alcoholfuel/   It's pretty new (Sept 4). Despite that, they seem to have a lot of activity.   Although JTF is still the most comprehensive source for alternative fuel production (IMO), I've never met someone from whom I coul

[Biofuel] Ontario alternate power: Bullfrog

2005-09-19 Thread mark manchester
Has anyone else seen this? I don't know about the reliability of the info. Jesse http://truthforce.ca/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4346090942/m/8781025931/r/347109 8931 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailma

Re: [Biofuel] Khaos Super Turbo Charger

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
I seriously doubt it, the Khaos device does much of anything and I have yet to see any well controlled studies that show that adding small amounts of acetone impacts fuel efficiency. NBV wrote: > The reference below claims to save 15%-50% gasoline fuel when installed; > the principle is the co

Re: [Biofuel] Thanks Keith

2005-09-19 Thread Mills, Duncan
And for good measure, in case anyone outside of the USA is looking at this: For the same 150l "processor": 2995USD from Fuelmeister USD (http://www.fuelmeister.com/products/fuelmeister.asp) 6227USD (£3459) from Greenfuels (http://www.greenfuels.co.uk/small.htm) and 10867USD (R70 000) here in South

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Ken Chua
Hi all, Sodium in air will burn instantly and explosively. Wasn't this the reason Thomas Edison got fired and lost part of his hearing because he let dry a piece of sodium metal in the box car he was experimenting in. The box car burned to the ground too. Sodium metal is usually placed in oil t

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread des
I recall that chemistry experiment, (also works with potassium), both metals were kept under oil to prevent oxidation. They're very unstable metals, and not found on earth in their pure forms. Hence the question becomes: How much energy does it take to purify the metal, and once this is cons

Re: [Biofuel] Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Furthermore, when the energy efficiency of a combustion engine is 35% it means the relationship between added energy (fuel) and the power that comes as a result. The rest of the energy is heat energy, which becomes transported by the cooling system as well as creating hot exhaust fumes. If y