Re: [Biofuel] Recent PBS report "Persons of Interest" TALON program - US AirForce

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Todd, Mike >"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the >guise of fighting a foreign enemy." --James Madison Yeah, it's also classic Orwell, if there isn't an enemy you have to invent one, if your name happens to be Big Brother, that is. It makes things so much easier

Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy

2006-03-30 Thread Rexis Tree
I have yet to go thru the entire website but i found that this is very interesting!Actually there are already plans to cultivate grass as energy fuel. But dedicated cultivation is not always the best solution. I mean, if we can simply harvest grass from waste land or unoccupied land, that will be m

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine use and other fancy stuff

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Greg >I am very interested in finding a use for the glycerine made by the reaction. Have you looked at this? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html Glycerine >I don't need that much soap and the local companies I have called >have not been interested. The idea of using ammon

Re: [Biofuel] A green question(s)...

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi again Daniel Sorry there was some confusion in the responses to your message. Forget about the advice to use more lye, especially as you'd already said you'd tried that and got worse results. It's very unlikely that you need to change the basic quantity of lye for it to work right. Just to

Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy

2006-03-30 Thread Don Wells
Tony Marzolino wrote: Tony Marzolino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone have any additional information on grass as a bio-fuel and the conversion into pellets as the site below suggests?  The site does not have much detail information (capital investment, process, market, etc).  

Re: [Biofuel] Recent PBS report "Persons of Interest" TALON program - US AirForce

2006-03-30 Thread Appal Energy
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." --James Madison Mike McGinness wrote: >Greetings all, > >I recently watched the PBS broadcast, interview whose transcript is >below. It is about our own government (USA) breaking the law and

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Mike McGinness
Joe, The link on my last message did not get through (I sent it as text by mistake). Here is the USPTO web site page, again with the full text of the patent: The US Patent Only problem seems to be hardware start up cost, but for larger operations it sounds like it would be very cost effective. -

[Biofuel] More on complexities of Global warming and recent solar input update

2006-03-30 Thread Mike McGinness
> Published March 9, 2006, from: > > GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 33, L05708, doi:10.1029/2005GL025539, > 2006 > > Phenomenological solar contribution to the 1900–2000 global surface warming > > N. Scafetta > > Physics Department, Duke University, Durham, North Carolina, USA > > B. J. West >

[Biofuel] Glycerine use and other fancy stuff

2006-03-30 Thread greg Kelly
I am very interested in finding a use for the glycerine made by the reaction. I don't need that much soap and the local companies I have called have not been interested. The idea of using ammonia to make potassium and ammonium phosphate. I am having a time getting a handle on the searches in the ar

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Mike McGinness
Joe Street wrote: > To answer the question what am I talking about, I heard about it on > another biodiesel list and I'm not sure about the exact setup. I > expect it is a way of adding energy into the process. I am interested > in this as I was in the so called " electrically catalized" > alt

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Mike McGinness
Joe, WOW! Great find. I take back what I said in my earlier reply today about being too costly, etc. From the data its looks like the ultrasonic might be producing OH free radicals in the water and thus reducing the amount of added base catalyst required, which in turn is increasing the yield and

[Biofuel] Recent PBS report "Persons of Interest" TALON program - US AirForce

2006-03-30 Thread Mike McGinness
Greetings all, I recently watched the PBS broadcast, interview whose transcript is below. It is about our own government (USA) breaking the law and spying on its own citizens, in general. It speaks for itself...It also says a lot, in my opinion as to why so few in the USA spoke out against th

Re: [Biofuel] source for WVO

2006-03-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Just about all the commercial biodiesel sold in the US is made from soybean oil, so it can't be that bad -- though canola is definitely better. I've been running soybean biodiesel in my truck for almost a year. I did get one batch of canola biodiesel, which I could tell ran a little better, and h

Re: [Biofuel] Citgo & Hugo Chavez

2006-03-30 Thread Evergreen Solutions
On 3/30/06, Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Funny that they implicitly assume that by including Cindy Sheehan, it will strengthen their case -- as if she is bad too.  Such stupidity.But I found out that there is a group protesting at military funerals, claiming that IEDs are God's way of pu

Re: [Biofuel] Citgo & Hugo Chavez

2006-03-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Funny that they implicitly assume that by including Cindy Sheehan, it will strengthen their case -- as if she is bad too.  Such stupidity.But I found out that there is a group protesting at military funerals, claiming that IEDs are God's way of punishing America for tolerating homesexuality.  Odd t

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Jason & Katie
Shnazzy stuff, but 28K seems a little close to the human range of hearing to be safe doesnt it? Granted it appears to be dramatically faster and cleaner because a lot of needed energy comes from the   U-sonics, but what if the frequency was higher?   - Original Message - From:

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Jason & Katie
its not a newspaper press though. it is a cryovac container factory, and they print their own materials. they use it for the dies and machine parts. soy ink may be the best stuff in the world, but it don't come off for nothin'. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Joe Street
Well I found THIS  which gives a little more info about frequency and power density.  It looks like this is done in a tank without agitation and settling happens with higher frequency u-sonics.  Hmmm. Joe Joe Street wrote: To answer the question what am I talking about, I heard about i

Re: [Biofuel] Washing

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Tom >Charles, > I've been separating the glycerin mix prior to washing. After much >tweaking I am finally making BD that washes easily and passes quality tests. > I have plans for the glycerin mix. Now that the weather is warming up I >plan to use phosphoric acid to split the mix into F

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Jason & Katie. I checked Cole-Parmer's book 2003/2004 for ultrasonic cleaners, the following items might give you some idea of the prices. A-08848-10 Ultrasonic cleaner w/timer for 15 oz. Priced US $ 147 A-08859-02 Ultrasonic cleaner w/Temp contr. adjust. waveform, 2 3/4 gall Priced US $ 1

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Joe Street
To answer the question what am I talking about, I heard about it on another biodiesel list and I'm not sure about the exact setup.  I expect it is a way of adding energy into the process.  I am interested in this as I was in the so called " electrically catalized" alternative process which I as

Re: [Biofuel] Seeking experience to produce biodiesel from Castor

2006-03-30 Thread Ken Provost
On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Chandan Haldar wrote: > Anyone care to share any experiences with castor oil based biodiesel > brewing using small-scale plants? I am told that castor oil dissolves > in alcohols and external heating is eliminated from the process. That's one oil I've never tried,

Re: [Biofuel] Washing

2006-03-30 Thread Ken Provost
On Mar 30, 2006, at 1:10 AM, Charles List wrote:I've been doing a bit of research as I begin to up-scale my  processing and I see that the University of Idaho published areport  on biodiesel production where they wash the combinedglycerol/ methyl ester mixture before separation, saying that thisimp

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Mike Weaver
You can buy fairly small ones - they are advertised (or used to be) to clean jewelry. Keith Addison wrote: >>I think he was talking about a "dip tank" like what is used to clean >>industrial parts en masse. it relies on complementary ultrasonic frequencies >>to basically heat and rattle the crud

Re: [Biofuel] Farmworkers Sue U.S. EPA

2006-03-30 Thread Chip Mefford
D. Mindock wrote: > There's no doubt that conditions for farmworkers have not improved under the > Bush regime. Notice that > the organophosphate pesticides, developed by the Nazis as a weapon of war, > are being used everywhere. Organophosphates have been around since the middle 1800s. Glaucom

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT ARE WE DOING TO OUR OWN IN OUR WARS?

2006-03-30 Thread Chip Mefford
Evergreen Solutions wrote: > I declare shenanigans. > Seconded, THere are other problems with the post also. Actually, there are a lot of problems with it. Althought I agree with the overall thesis/sentiment of the post, If one wants to use numbers, better make sure those numbers are good. ___

Re: [Biofuel] Washing

2006-03-30 Thread Thomas Kelly
Charles, I've been separating the glycerin mix prior to washing. After much tweaking I am finally making BD that washes easily and passes quality tests. I have plans for the glycerin mix. Now that the weather is warming up I plan to use phosphoric acid to split the mix into Fatty Acids,

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Chris Fletcher
A cell disrupter will be fine for small quantities of material but not large ones. You can get ultrasonic parts cleaners but I wouldn't like to guess at the price of them!! At 18:38 30/03/2006 +0900, you wrote: > >I think he was talking about a "dip tank" like what is used to clean > >industria

Re: [Biofuel] Seeking experience to produce biodiesel from Castor

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
>Anyone care to share any experiences with castor oil based biodiesel >brewing using small-scale plants? I am told that castor oil dissolves >in alcohols and external heating is eliminated from the process. I'm >also hearing conjectures that castor based biodiesel will not freeze >even below -20

Re: [Biofuel] Speeding up the acid/base process

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
>I think he was talking about a "dip tank" like what is used to clean >industrial parts en masse. it relies on complementary ultrasonic frequencies >to basically heat and rattle the crud out of things >my friend uses them at the printing shop where he works. He does? And it works?? Why doesn't som

Re: [Biofuel] Free Earth-Policy Institute newsletter

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike LOL! Sorry, not laughing at your expense, but it tickled me. Journey to Forever and the Biofuel list are closely associated but not the same. The Journey to Forever website is about much more than just biodiesel and biofuels, that's just a part of it, and the website is just a part of

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials oflyingabout 9/11

2006-03-30 Thread D. Mindock
And don't forget Building 7, not hit by anything except maybe some debris, totally collapsed too, in the same controlled fashion as the towers. Nope, it sure doesn't add up. I think we all want to believe it was Osama and his henchmen, but if it was, they had lots of assistance. They are so m