Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Joe and All, I really don´t want to believe this. That´s part of the problem. But the buildings fell unusually fast, from film and stopwatch just about at freefall speeds. I would have thought if most of the structural steel was okay, except for the areas where the fires were, wouldn´t

Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jason I have to agree with Chip. But Chip says this: Suffice to say, I am a whole lot /less/ ignorant of this very very large scale issue. I haven't yet been able to draw any defined conclusions from this. I do however, believe that informed rationality precludes either polar position on

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Andrew Lowe
Tom Irwin wrote: Hi Joe and All, I really don´t want to believe this. That´s part of the problem. But the buildings fell unusually fast, from film and stopwatch just about at freefall speeds. I would have thought if most of the structural steel was okay, except for the areas where the fires

[Biofuel] meanwhile, in the US

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Weaver
Willie Nelson and the boys were on the road, and they stopped them and found a pound and a half of marijuana. bin Laden is still loose, but we got Willie Nelson. --David Letterman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Logan vilas
I know nothing about buildings like that, most of my work involved things going down into the water, not up. But thanks for the heads up. Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Logan vilas
Hey Terry, The first thing I said is there is a ton of very suspicious unanswered questions, but I was just saying I can understand how the building would have gotten hot enough to have molten steel. A lot of shit happened that day that no one wants to be let out. Right down to the

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-21 Thread bob allen
Kirk McLoren wrote: No - the beta carotene is water soluble. want to bet? I guess you wouldn't trust me, but regardless, I worked with the stuff last spring, I had a student examine the UV spectra of beta carotene (dissolved in benzene) vs the spectrum of red palm oil. the are essentially

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread D. Mindock
Bldg 7 fell in the same controlled fashion even though of different construction method. It was hit by debris but not an airliner. Bldg 7 was not mentioned in the 9/11 commission report. Why? It was a big building, 47 stories, loaded with FBI files on Enron and other cases. No steel framed

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-21 Thread bob allen
Terry Dyck wrote: Hi Bob, You are streching to find extreme examples from very diferent cultures. I never consider animal parts to be a herb. Don't herbs have to be part of the botanical family? It is true that some parts of a few plants are poisiness. The leaves of rhubard for an

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-21 Thread MK DuPree
Hi Bob and List..."What we are searching with...we are searching for." I don't know who said this or what the heck the sayer had in mind...but somehow it seems appropriate to this thread. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "bob allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread robert and benita rabello
D. Mindock wrote: Bldg 7 fell in the same controlled fashion even though of different construction method. You're going to believe what you wish to believe, despite the physical evidence. It was hit by debris but not an airliner. Bldg 7 was not mentioned in the 9/11 commission

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
Kirk, Bob, Terry, I enetered this discussion admtting "I don't know." Now I still don't know and I'm confused. I always believed that Vitamin A is fat soluble ... hence it is found in fish oil and can be stored (in the liver). It seems that there is a class of compounds that are

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-21 Thread Joe Street
Interesting! Polar bears have black skin. J Thomas Kelly wrote: Bob, I think you are right re: Vit A being toxic. It is definitely considered to be teratogenic. I thought it was Vitamin D in polar bear and walrus liver that was toxic. One explanation of the evolution of

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Joe Street
Very good explanation and it makes good logical sense. Thank you! Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's a very good point Kirk. I wonder how do the civil engineers deal with that bit? Impact happened, jet fuel went

Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-21 Thread Doug Foskey
I feel I really need to give the Australian Perspective on this: I have to disagree with Chip. I was raised around the premise that guns are unnecessary. I live in Australia where we have had gun removal legislation for many years. I have never felt the need to own a gun, I do not know

[Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-21 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
I agree with Doug, although many americans believe it is their inaliable right to carry a gun. The u.s. murder rate is atrocious. You are something like 40 times more likely to be killed if you have a gun in your home, than if you didn't. That does not preclude the fact that law enforcement

[Biofuel] was.. WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
I've been following this thread and there certainly seems to be many things that don't add up. Until recently I was under the impression that building seven came down as a result of the falling towers. Recently I saw a video of the building (7) coming down and it fell exactly the way

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread dwoodard
Well maybe, but I don't think that the stupidity lies where you seem to imply. We know that years before the event PNAC wrote longingly of a new Pearl Harbor. We know that for a long time Al Quaeda wanted to destroy the World Trade Centre as the ultimate symbolic blow to its own Evil Empire.

Re: [Biofuel] Science

2006-09-21 Thread D. Mindock
Joe, At http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=17367ch=nanotech they discuss using cerium oxide, not aluminum, in diesel fuel. I do worry about nano sized particles getting out into the air we breathe. If cerium or aluminum are catalysts that means they are not burnt and come

Re: [Biofuel] was.. WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Paul S Cantrell
It most certainly did not fall like a controlled demolition. It didn't even completely fall flat into its footprint. It fell towards the South and nearly split in two as it fell. The remains had to be demolished. It is illogical to point to demolition videos of concrete reinforced steel buildings

Re: [Biofuel] was.. WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Well, the video I saw looked a lot like a couple of real demols, that I've seen, thats all. Maybe I got confused with another video. The whole affair is fishy though, Thanks for the link. regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Paul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Michael Friebel
Here's a nice report on the subject: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: The 9/11 Truth Movement in Perspective by Phil Molé At the Hyatt Regency O’Hare near Chicago, a crowd of approximately 400 people has gathered on a pleasant summer evening. Some are old and some are young; some are dressed in

[Biofuel] qulity tests help please

2006-09-21 Thread Golan Shmuel
hi any explanation for passing methanol tests perfectly but steal having third layer 3-4 mm in the wash tests happened to me in 3 last batch's thanks Golan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] changes in titration values

2006-09-21 Thread Golan Shmuel
hi! does any of you notice major difference in titration values in thesame oil before and after 1-2 months in stalling tank? i have anew 1000 liter black staling tank outside in the sun (it get very hot here in the summer 38-45 c July Aug) same oil that titrated 2.4 for few times before

Re: [Biofuel] was..Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-21 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
Paul you need to get your facts straight or at least your myths It is imposable to open an Door or Emergency exit while the plane is pressurized. The doors are larger than the openings they sit in. The air pressure keeps the closed. Ever noticed why the open inward then turned sideways,

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://cancer.about.com/od/foodguide/f/cancerbetacaro.htmSmokers had more cancer but non smokers did not exhibit same response. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag99/aug99-report1.html Lipids, too, play a role in whether the carotenes are effective. The carotenes are lipid soluble-they must

Re: [Biofuel] Science

2006-09-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=3582304dopt=Citation These findings suggest that rare earth metal fumes should be considered as cytotoxic to lung tissue and therefore potentially fibrogenic.. It gets worsehttp://www.potters.org/subject73406.htm

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/highpH.htmReprinted from Pharmacology Biochemistry Behavior, v. 21, Suppl., 1, by A. Keith Brewer, Ph.D.," The High pH Therapy for Cancer, Tests on Mice and Humans," pp. 1-5, Copyright 1984, with permission from Elsevier Science. Single copies of the article can