e.
Capturing methane at its source and using it close to where it's
produced to generate electricity seems appropriate.
Sorry to carry on, but you did say methane was intriguing.
Best,
Tom
-Original Message-
From: "John Jaser"
Sent: 11/26/2014 2:50 PM
To: "sustaina
That interview with Dr. Olah was a good read. Thanks Darryl.
From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:24 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Has anyone read "Beyond Oil and Gas: The Methanol Economy"?
http://www.technologyreview.com/new
I have not yet started in on racing forums, as I understand they use
100% methanol as fuel, and my interest is using a mix of methanol (up to
50% possibly) in order to avoid making engine modifications while not
sacrificing engine life.
The idea of the methanol energy economy is way beyond my
Have you looked on drag racing forums about methanol for race fuel? And they
discuss the effects on the motor and modifications required.
Michele
> On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:24 PM, "Darryl McMahon" wrote:
>
> Has anyone read "Beyond Oil and Gas: The Methanol Economy"?
>
> http://www.technolog
Tom
-Original Message-
From: "John Jaser"
Sent: 11/26/2014 2:50 PM
To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org"
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Hi Tom:
Sorry should have added the context. Intriguing as perhaps a better common
den
its source and using it close to where it's produced to
generate electricity seems appropriate.
Sorry to carry on, but you did say methane was intriguing.
Best,
Tom
-Original Message-
From: "John Jaser"
Sent: 11/26/2014 2:50 PM
To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@
Sent: 11/26/2014 12:58 PM
To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org"
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Methanol is super intriguing… the amount of hydrogen per molecule.
From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:
inablelists.org"
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Methanol is super intriguing… the amount of hydrogen per molecule.
From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:06 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Jan, thanks for the
al Message-
From: "Darryl McMahon"
Sent: 11/26/2014 10:03 AM
To: "Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org"
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
In Canada, it is illegal to produce ethanol for fuel without a federal
permit, and these are effectively never gra
ope this information did not scar you off, but increased your curiosity.
>
> Best
> Jan Warnqvisr
>
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- From: Darryl McMahon
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:03 PM
> To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
> Subject: [Biofuel] Meth
patent.
I hope this information did not scar you off, but increased your curiosity.
Best
Jan Warnqvisr
-Ursprungligt meddelande- From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:03 PM
To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
In C
, November 26, 2014 4:03 PM
To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
In Canada, it is illegal to produce ethanol for fuel without a federal
permit, and these are effectively never granted to a home brewer.
I have been pondering the idea of
In Canada, it is illegal to produce ethanol for fuel without a federal
permit, and these are effectively never granted to a home brewer.
I have been pondering the idea of using methanol (wood alcohol) as an
alternative to ethanol fuel, but have not taken the time to research it.
Has somebody
In Alberta, you should be able to find 75 cents / L in drums. One or
2 outfits charge 60 cents but it is in Cube packs , or over 200
gallons per sale. I'm unsure because I suspect the 2 companies are
linked as in one owns the other , which makes them the same to me.
Where are you ? I could find
: [Biofuel] Methanol Prices?
I am interested in finding out the going rate for Methanol these days.
I found a local distributor but they seem very over priced @ $600+ for a
55 gallon drum. Or $10.90 a gallon
Anyone know the going rate per gallon these days? I was expecting around
$200 for 55 gallons. Am
I am interested in finding out the going rate for Methanol these days.
I found a local distributor but they seem very over priced @ $600+ for a
55 gallon drum. Or $10.90 a gallon
Anyone know the going rate per gallon these days? I was expecting around
$200 for 55 gallons. Am I dreaming?
Corey
_
Propane is also used, but metanol would be more controlable and less
volitale.
>From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol recovery;
>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:52:11 -0500
&
Hey Tom et al;
I think I might have a new solution for our woes re. re-use of
methanol. Rather than trying to dry it for re-use in making BD we might
be able to just use it for fuel. This local dude who is way into
performance diesels comes into my place last night to talk about BD
productio
Hey allhere is a good price! 1.80/gallon, here is the link
http://www.methanex.com/products/methanolprice.html
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:41:05 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: [Biofuel] Methanol SuppliersHi all,I need a better supply of
methanol. My local supplier is
not going to be used
as fuel. I feel that's not so bad. But that tax issue is a whole different
subject.
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:41 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Metha
Hi all,
I need a better supply of methanol. My local supplier is charging
$5.75/gallon. AND, I have to call ahead so they can "re-package" it. Can
anyone point me to a better source in south central Pennsylvania? Or, I
suppose, I'd be willing to have it shipped but, I'd prefer to buy as local
make
yourself...).
Jason
ICQ#: 154998177
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Kelly
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Jim,
Bad news.
I don't thi
23, 2006 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom: A friend who mixes windshield wash commercially uses 35% in the
winter. That is plenty strong for Montana, but if he uses that strength he
does not have to worry if the temp goes below -10F by several
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*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2006 9:01 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom;
I think washer fluid typically contains 20 to 40% alcohol but I
notice that on the cold days
Maybe I found a new,
cheaper source of methanol.
Tom
- Original Message -
From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom;
I think washer
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*Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:33 PM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Help if you can.
I have relatives that own a bus company. They have 150
: PAUL MILLER
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom: A friend who mixes windshield wash commercially uses 35% in the
winter. That is plenty strong for Montana, but if he uses that
e -
> *From:* FRANCISCO <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:22 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
>
> I assume the metan
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Help if you can.
I have relatives that own a bus company. They have 150+ gallons of
windshield wash flui
Help if you can.
I have relatives that own a bus company. They have 150+ gallons of
windshield wash fluid. It is not winterized. How much methanol should be added
to each gallon of washer fluid in order to prevent freezing to say
-10F (-23C) ?
I will experiment as follows:
l grade ethanol.
I got discouraged and put it aside.
Tom
From: JAMES PHELPS
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
It is something that I i
s.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Ethanol to make ethyl esters makes good sense. Not only renewable, but
carbon neutral as well.
May have to tweak the process a bit . vacuum to reduce water in
oil?
Use
elists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Francisco,
I predict that Biodiesel producers will start working with ethanol as a
result of these price increases, this is a good thing and it needs to happen,
when it does that means the
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From: FRANCISCO<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I assume the metanol demand world wide is i
Tom
- Original Message -
From: FRANCISCO
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I assume the metanol demand world wide is increasing as biofuels production
are increasing sharply.
from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive
heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is
more difficult and costly.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Inc
Of course
check the library
Thanks Jim
JAMES PHELPS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html
Jim
>From: leo bunyan
>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Pri
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html
Jim
>From: leo bunyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
>Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:12:42 +1100 (EST)
&g
CTED]
To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
> Hello All,
> Did I miss the news?
> Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol
> recently?
>
> I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels).
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To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
> It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is
> produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol
> prices have gone
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Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
> Hello All,
> Did I miss the news?
> Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol
> recently?
>
> I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price
>
day, November 22, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
>I just got this also please see
>
> http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html
>
> Jim
>
>
>>From: "Thomas Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainableli
l@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Tom,
Yep, you missed it, I used to think it followed natural gas prices too but
that is not the case unless there is a significant market lag that causes the
price to lag a
I just got this also please see
http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html
Jim
>From: "Thomas Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:44:45 -0500
&g
the case with finite supplies
introduced to new markets overnight - Prices move up.
Jim
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From: Thomas Kelly<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel<mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:14 AM
Subject: [Biofu
bject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Hello All,
Did I miss the news?
Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently?
I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price
( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.5
My price went from 2.02 a gallon last month to 3.08 a gallon this month
Logan Vilas
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Secco
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:51 AM
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol
Think methanol price is strongly dependant of natural gas price which is linked
to fuel prices.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Kelly
To: biofuel
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Hello All,
Did I miss the
Hello All,
Did I miss the news?
Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently?
I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price (
July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in
a few months?
>Dear Khin Wei Chong,
>
>If you want I've got the real technology, how to produce the
>methanol and the derivate comppounds.
Methanol production for backyarders?
Please tell us more.
Best
Keith
>Best regards.
>
>Dr. Ezio Di Bernardo
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Im interested in getting methanol
Dear Khin Wei Chong,
If you want I've got the real technology, how to produce the methanol and the
derivate comppounds.
Best regards.
Dr. Ezio Di Bernardo
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Im interested in getting methanol within the south
> east asian region. Would appreciate if anyone could
> provide me some
Hi,
Im interested in getting methanol within the south
east asian region. Would appreciate if anyone could
provide me some assistance on where I can obtain
methanol or provide me some quotes.
Thanks.
>
>
> Joe Street wrote:
>
> > Hi Jim;
> >
> > Ok I made up a graph by adding water one ml a
Source:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8859&feedId=online-news_rss20
Methanol-powered artificial muscles start to flex
19:00 16 March 2006
NewScientist.com news service
Zeeya Merali
Methanol-powered artificial muscles have been created
by researchers
aiming to create battery-f
The price of methanol overhere is € 0,53 per liter.
Ethanol costs about € 0,80 per liter.
Pieter
Netherlands
- Original Message -
From: "Blas Antonio Guanes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol method
thanks,
but the
>Keith!
>
>You live on a mountain in Japan?
Indeed I do Joe, at least Weaver got something right, LOL!
>How are you coping with all the snow
>dude? Last I heard 4m fell.
7m in some places. It's killed about a hundred people in Japan so
far. Not so bad here though, much worse in the north.
>Be
CTED]>
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery?
>
>
> > >HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
> > >
> > >HI MIKE!
> > >
> > >I first began using methanol just on the weeke
Keith!
You live on a mountain in Japan? How are you coping with all the snow
dude? Last I heard 4m fell. Be vewwwy qwiet while you tiptoe around
ok? It wouldn't do to have a few megatons of snow come and wipe you off
the mountain!
J
>
>
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery?
> >HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
> >
> >HI MIKE!
> >
> >I first began using methanol just on the weekends. A few bottles of
> >dry
Mike Weaver wrote:
>HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
>
>
Thanks, I needed a good grin!
doug swanson
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From: "Bioclaire Nederland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery? Amazing !!
> ***
> No vir
Amazing Keith, that you put any time in stupid articles like this man wrote.
How can you keep your patients ?
Greetings,
Pieter.
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From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol R
>HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
>
>HI MIKE!
>
>I first began using methanol just on the weekends. A few bottles of dry
>gas here and there, just enought to make myself feel better about my
>fuel usage. Then it got to be too expensive to buy methanol in little
>bottles and I beg
Addison
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:04 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery?
Hi Theo
Big-time, huh? :-)
>Hello everyone, I am scaling up the size of my processing units to
>make about 300-400gallons of biodiesel a day. Right now I do not do
Hi Theo
Big-time, huh? :-)
>Hello everyone, I am scaling up the size of my processing units to
>make about 300-400gallons of biodiesel a day. Right now I do not do
>any methanol recovery however at the larger scale it makes a lot of
>finical sense to get back the methanol. I have had a lot of
Hello everyone, I am scaling up the size of my processing units to make
about 300-400gallons of biodiesel a day. Right now I do not do any methanol
recovery however at the larger scale it makes a lot of finical sense to get
back the methanol. I have had a lot of trouble finding somewhat lar
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>To:
>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 18:59
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene glovesgood
>enoughprotection?
>
>
>
>
>>Greg,
>>
>>Do people heat with fuel oil where you are? If so, that's not Biodiesel
>
Thanks to all for the thorough responses to my queries about methanol and
gloves! Y'all rule...
What's your views on my addition of 0.5-2% addition of gasoline to my
veggie oil prior to biodiesel production during cold/damp weather?
It seems to take care of the moisture factor which had me occasi
It's one thing if it is a vehicle fuel tank, something else if it is not.
Greg H.
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From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 22:02
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves
goodenoug
Furnace is Natural Gas.
Greg H.
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From: "Kenji James Fuse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 23:43
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves
goodenoughprotection?
> Hey Greg,
>
> Can't you put yo
No.
Near as I can tell, everything is NG with some electric and a few solar.
Greg H
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 18:59
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene glovesgood
enoughprotection?
I'm a residence not a restraunt/business, so the exemtions for 'Other Oils'
don't apply.
Greg H.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 19:38
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves
goodenoug
e of mine at cost if you
> can collect from
> Peterborough.
> Hope this helps
> Rgds Bob
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:54 PM
> Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol suppliers
>
>things for inspectors, anything not approved by the law, is illegal.
>
>I'm still trying to figure out the ins and out's of this law, and so I'm
>just taking my time.
>
>Greg H.
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mike Weaver"
;
>>Chris K
>>Cayce, SC
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To:
>>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
>
Hey Greg,
Can't you put your biodiesel in a furnace tank and call it home heating
oil? That should get around that arcane law.
Too bad about your neighbour, tho'...
Kenji Fuse
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al of
> > kero may be stored ) in approved DOT above ground containers.To
> > simplify
> > things for inspectors, anything not approved by the law, is illegal.
> >
> > I'm still trying to figure out the ins and out's of this law, and so I'm
> &g
rs, anything not approved by the law, is illegal.
>
> I'm still trying to figure out the ins and out's of this law, and so I'm
> just taking my time.
>
> Greg H.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Weaver" <[EM
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection?
> In an obscure way, I am all ready there.
>
> A neighbor up the street let me know about a month ago that if he ever
> suspects that I
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 13:40
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection?
> Hi Keith,
>
> You're probably right. I just have the fear that someone will
> kill/blind/maim themselves making BD and it
-
From: "Chris May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:54 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol suppliers
> Hi everyone, Ive just started attempting to make BD
> but after getting some methanol from a local model
> airplane shop, he told me that his suppl
Hi Keith,
You're probably right. I just have the fear that someone will
kill/blind/maim themselves making BD and it'll
be seized on by the forces of darkness. If training were available, or
we could setp an serious non-profit (that is NOT the National Biodiesel
Board) and
do training, like Th
>Better to be over-cautious than under-cautious.
I know what you're saying Mike, but I don't agree. Maybe you wouldn't
either if you saw all the emails I've had from people shying away
from brewing biodiesel because of all those dreadful chemicals. Maybe
if the playing field was level, without
Hi Peter
>Hi Keith and All ;
>
>I had a bug infestation eating new leaves on some
>trees I was growing. The only thing I had handy was
>some 85% methanol. I used a hand pump spray bottle
>and sprayed it on, and the plants loved it, the bugs
>all died and haven't come back yet.
Interesting. With
Hi everyone, Ive just started attempting to make BD
but after getting some methanol from a local model
airplane shop, he told me that his supplier has told
him he can no longer get him the stuff since
apparently the british government have "outlawed"
methanol being sold a seperate item so 95% or be
Hi Keith and All ;
I had a bug infestation eating new leaves on some
trees I was growing. The only thing I had handy was
some 85% methanol. I used a hand pump spray bottle
and sprayed it on, and the plants loved it, the bugs
all died and haven't come back yet.
Best Regards,
Peter G.
Thailand
Better to be over-cautious than under-cautious.
I wish we could set up a training series and teach interested parties
how to brew safely. I dread the thought than someone will
make an avoidable error and taint the home-brewing scenario.
If I wrote a quick safety punchlist would the greybeards o
>On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
>
>
> > We're veering between incaution and overcaution. There've
> > been some other messages pooh-poohing safety in general.
> > I'd agree too much safety is dangerous, but so is too little.
> > What's required is *due* caution, which needs good
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
> We're veering between incaution and overcaution. There've
> been some other messages pooh-poohing safety in general.
> I'd agree too much safety is dangerous, but so is too little.
> What's required is *due* caution, which needs good informati
We're veering between incaution and overcaution. There've been some
other messages pooh-poohing safety in general. I'd agree too much
safety is dangerous, but so is too little. What's required is *due*
caution, which needs good information. Here it is:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make
Thankyou Ken, succinctly put, as ever.
Best
Keith
>On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:11 PM, Ken Dunn wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm still a bit confused.
> >
> > What is the trick to evaporating the methanol
> > without reversing the process?
>
>
>Very simple -- you can't boil off methanol when both
>biodiesel an
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From: "Ken Provost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] methanol recovery from fuel stock?
>
> On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:11 PM, Ken Dunn wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm still a bit confused
On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:11 PM, Ken Dunn wrote:
>
>
> I'm still a bit confused.
>
> What is the trick to evaporating the methanol
> without reversing the process?
Very simple -- you can't boil off methanol when both
biodiesel and glycerine are present without shifting
the equilibrium backwards to
Hey Keith,
I'm still a bit confused.
On 11/5/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most convenient would be to
> reclaim it all at once right at the end of the process before
> removing the by-product while it's still hot and near the boiling
> point of methanol, but that throws the rea
>I have pondering this for some time but figured I should get some
>success with making fuel first.
>
>Since alcohol is added from time to time to storage tanks so it will
>mix with the water and thus the blended alcohol water mixes with the
>fuel.
>
>This being the said, I wondered if the wash
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 7:55 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] methanol recovery from fuel stock?
do youu guyss knolw hte bioling point of methanol is 149 f. and i dont know
what the boilling point of diesel is but itw way below the boiling point of
water a
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Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 7:32 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] methanol recovery from fuel stock?
Hi Derick,
I too am curios about this, but isnt 275 deg F on the
what the boilling point of diesel is but itw way below the boiling point of
water at 212,, buck
>From: JJJN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] methanol recovery from fuel stock?
>Date: Fri,
Hi Derick,
I too am curios about this, but isnt 275 deg F on the edge of the
envelope Bio? I would like to try this as well but instead use a vacume
to keep the temp down. how much ethanol did you recover? That alone may
make it worth while.
Jim
Derick Giorchino wrote:
> I have pondering th
I have pondering this for some time but figured I should get
some success with making fuel first.
Since alcohol is added from time to time to storage tanks so
it will mix with the water and thus the blended alcohol water mixes with the
fuel.
This being the said, I wondered if the wash co
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Tan
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:58 PM
> To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
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> Hydrocarbons are relatively inert. They only undergo reaction at
> vigorous con
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