Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-13 Thread Joe Street
Good points E.Allen; I haven't seen that one. I'll have to look for it. Since you say Faye looked so gorgeous but I take it that was from a better time when actresses didn't have to get naked in order to elicit such a reaction. But then maybe there will be a remake with Halley Berry..? Ya

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-12 Thread E. C.
Hey Joe When's the last time you saw the movie Chinatown (Faye Dunaway was gorgeous)? point: been there, done that -- as with most corporatocracy scams -- but time's running out! If We The People don't get up on our hind legs and seriously do things to change to a sustainable lifestyle SOON (and

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-11 Thread Kenji James Fuse
Does anybody have any info on hydrid diesels in North America? My friend is interestd in the idea and would probably buy one, but we can't find anything on the market. Aren't passenger car diesel hybrids up and running in Europe? Kenji Fuse On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, MH wrote: I was listening to a

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-11 Thread Darryl McMahon
To my knowledge there are no hybrid diesels available in North America. Nor any announced for the 2007 model year (among 23 entries). This despite the fact that all the PNGV demonstration vehicles being diesel-electric hybrids. Car makers are generally convinced diesels are taboo in North

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-11 Thread Zeke Yewdall
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/31/psa-peugeot-citroen-unveils-diesel-hybrid-technology/ Citroen is going to introduce a diesel hybrid that gets 70mpg or more. By 2010 perhaps, according to the article. On 3/11/06, Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my knowledge there are no hybrid

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-10 Thread logan vilas
the price or cheaper. Logan Vilas Bio-Fuel Enterprises, Inc. - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency David, I do not understand why it is silly to want to know

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-10 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, The comparison is kind of ridiculous unless it rains gasolene or diesel in your neck of the woods. Tom From: Marty Phee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:21:46 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiencyIf you exclude state and

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid efficiency

2006-03-10 Thread Andy Karpay
. - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency David, I do not understand why it is silly to want to know the facts about the following, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-10 Thread MH
I was listening to a radio program about Hybrid cars. The two state of WI dealerships mentioned dealership battery replacement costs were decreasing to US$3000 and they figured they might reach US$1500 as new models hit the road over the coming years. They talked about battery warranty and

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Andrew Netherton
I'll bet that research would show a mighty quick return on investment if they had done the study based on European fuel costs, and not our cheaper-than-bottled-water fuel here in North America. Andrew Netherton On 3/9/06, AltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Research Shows Only two out

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Or for that matter, an off-peak plug-in hybrid.On 3/9/06, Andrew Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'll bet that research would show a mighty quick return on investmentif they had done the study based on European fuel costs, and not our cheaper-than-bottled-water fuel here in North America.Andrew

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie Andrew Netherton wrote: I'll bet that research would show a mighty quick return on investment if they had done the study based on

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Take a trip to England or anywhere in Europe and don't forget to rent a car while you are there. When you get back tell us how it went! LOL Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Chip Mefford
Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie Would depend on your bottled water. retail bottled water usually runs in excess of $1 per litre. retail

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Here's a link I just found on Google for example http://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htm J Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Hey Andrew don't forget we are sitting on a virtual goldmine in terms of fresh water here in Canada. In many places in the USA I've heard they are already feeling the pinch for water and it is getting worse. I'm wondering if we could set something up where maybe we could use beavers as a slave

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Here's a better one (more current and longer time range) http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water.

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Question is how much does a gallon of bottled water cost in US? Hakan At 19:59 09/03/2006, you wrote: Here's a better one (more current and longer time range) http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.htmlhttp://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread oscar
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Chip Mefford Enviado el: Jueves, 09 de Marzo de 2006 01:54 p.m. Para: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Asunto: Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
I don't how anyone can justify a Hybrid over a diesel. The financial numbers just don't work. My VW TDI gets (243K mile so far) 45 mpg @ City Driving 55 mpg @ 60 mph 50 mpg @ 75 mph My cost is (City)$2.60/45 = 5.8 cents a mile (not including

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread bob allen
particulate emissions? Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote: I don't how anyone can justify a Hybrid over a diesel. The financial numbers just don't work. My VW TDI gets (243K mile so far) 45 mpg @ City Driving 55 mpg @ 60 mph 50 mpg @ 75 mph My cost is

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread robert luis rabello
bob allen wrote: particulate emissions? That's a good question. How do the modern, common rail direct injection diesel engines fare in terms of their particulate emissions? Does anyone know? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Marty Phee
Depends. Supermarket filtered by the gallon probably runs around $2/gallon. Name brand around $4/gallon to $20/gallon. Home delivered 5 gallon jugs ~$1.80/gallon Same company 24 .5L is $2.20/gallon Hakan Falk wrote: Question is how much does a gallon of bottled water cost in US? Hakan At

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
The hybrid could power the house. We could live very differently. And while the hybrid is powering the house if more is needed than is reasonable from the batteries heat is available as well. In fact it would make sense to leave the garage fully charged and have generated where the heat could be

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
That means that bottled water is more expensive than gasoline, as I understand, http://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htmhttp://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htm @ $1.453 per gallon. So, what was wrong with the original statement? Nothing as I understand it. Hakan At

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Marty Phee
If you exclude state and fed taxes water is much more valuable than gas. I think gas is 2.39 around me today. Find a spring, put it into a fancy bottle and your rich. Hakan Falk wrote: That means that bottled water is more expensive than gasoline, as I understand,

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread David Miller
Hakan Falk wrote: That means that bottled water is more expensive than gasoline, as I understand, http://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htmhttp://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htm @ $1.453 per gallon. So, what was wrong with the original statement? Nothing as I

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
David, I do not understand why it is silly to want to know the facts about the following, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie Andrew Netherton

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, The cost of water is a funny thing, the smaller the bottle, the more it costs. One gallon of distilled or spring water at Walmart is $0.58 however, a 16.9 oz or 500ml at the check out is $0.99. Other stores are more expensive, but have the same kind of pricing. Bright Blessings,