Thanks Ed
Barryt
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From: Ed Beggs
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Vancouver
Ask them for methyl hydrate.
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From: "Barryt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I live on the northern beaches of Sydney. Does anyone in the group have
some methanol locations that would suit me.
Try BP (Australia) they market the methanol I am using.
BP Methanol Straight.
Available in 20L and 200L drums,
Ask them for methyl hydrate.
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:34:55 +1000
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> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Vancouver
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> I live on the northern beaches of Sydney
om
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I pay the equivalent of US$2.00 for 99% methanol here in South Africa.
Keep searching...
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I pay the equivalent of US$2.00 for 99% methanol here in South Africa.
Keep searching...
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> From: Dave Morch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:48 PM
> To: 'biofuel@yahoogroups.com'
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> > I am in British Columbia. I can not find methanol.
> .
>
> Check bulk fuel suppliers. Not only do they supply fue
> I am in British Columbia. I can not find methanol.
.
Check bulk fuel suppliers. Not only do they supply fuel oils, petrol and the
like, but can also obtain methanol easily in 55 gallon drums, if not already
on hand. This should equate to ~$2.00 - $2.25 US a g
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:42 PM
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"Greg Yohn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Where are you? I thought methal hydrate was methanol mixed with Lye (NaOH).
Methanol + lye (NaOH) = sodium methoxide.
From the archives:
"Methyl hydrate seems to be a Canadian only term for methanol otherwise known
as methyl alcohol or wood alcohol."
"
Darren - we are in Kelowna. We buy in bulk. Where are you?
Ed B.
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> Subject: RE: [biofuel] methano
I havent made a batch of biodiesel yet, but ive got
some graduated cylinders and stuff coming in the mail.
Im under the impression that your local drag strip
carries methanol, assuming you have a local drag
strip, ive got one 45 minutes away, and as soon as my
parts come in the mail ill go in se
I am in British Columbia. I can not find methanol.
--- Greg Yohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where are you? I thought methal hydrate was methanol
> mixed with Lye (NaOH).
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Where are you? I thought methal hydrate was methanol mixed with Lye (NaOH).
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From: Darren Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:17 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] methanol availability
Where can I get methanol?
Hi Joseph
Very nice, clear explanation, thankyou!
Best wishes
Keith Addison
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>John,
>Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a
>hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in
John,
Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a
hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in the molecule. (CH3OH)
This is how it works for all the alcohols. Add the OH to ethane, and get
ethanol; to propane, and get propanol; butane, butanol, and so
Thanks David.
I did a quick search on the net and found one or two conversion charts which
didnt have mws.
Cheers
Ian
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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol/methoxide vacuum concern
Ian,
Dont know what mws mean in your message below but dug out the
following chart for pressure
To convert fromto
Multiply by
atmosphere, standard kilopascal (kPa)
101.325
atmosphere, technical (1 kilogram force
per sqaur
Hi Keith, Dana and All,
--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >One of our project members has requested that I
> >investigate the possability of methanol production
> >using corn cobs as a feedstock.
> >
> >Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
> >destructive distillation
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> One of our project members has requested that I
> investigate the possability of methanol production
> using corn cobs
>One of our project members has requested that I
>investigate the possability of methanol production
>using corn cobs as a feedstock.
>
>Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
>destructive distillation might be the route to go.
>
>Does anyone have a lead for more information on
>destructi
One of our project members has requested that I
investigate the possability of methanol production
using corn cobs as a feedstock.
Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
destructive distillation might be the route to go.
Does anyone have a lead for more information on
destructive distil
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Frank,
Here in Auckland the local authority on the Northshore has very
successfully produced methane at the Rosedale Rd tip sight and run a small
electricity generation plant pumping electricity back into the natural grid
for a number of years. The idea is certainly not new and I believ
>So I have this neighbour with a big old sawdust and wood shavings
>pile. I figure mix in a ratio'd quantity of lawn cuttings from a
>municipal yard maintenance contract and a little aeration ( we have
>1085 acres between us, so spread area for aeration is not a problem)
>and presto :) decompo
Thanks Todd :)
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> > Has anyone got any Methanol reclaiming details they could supply me?
> ...
>
> Ian,
>
> Has anyone got any Methanol reclaiming details they could supply me?
...
Ian,
You will have to build yourself an evaporative condenser capable of
maintaining a temp of 165 Fahrenheit, slightly above the boiling temp of
methanol.
It will consist of an airtight "pot" (except for the vap
Thanks Greg ,good info
David
Greg Yohn wrote:
> Try looking for methanol at a local Speed Shop, car parts for hotrods. My
> local place sells it for $2.50 per gal or $110, plus $10 deposit for 55 gal.
>
> Greg
>
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> Biofuel at Journey to F
Try looking for methanol at a local Speed Shop, car parts for hotrods. My
local place sells it for $2.50 per gal or $110, plus $10 deposit for 55 gal.
Greg
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Hi Keith ,
Thanks for your response, I'll get right on it.
Thanks again,
David
Keith Addison wrote:
> >Hi Group,
> > I am a new kid on the block so I'll be reading your mail with gusto.
> >I was wondering if any of you out there know where a cheap source of
> >methanol could be found in or
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>Hi Group,
> I am a new kid on the block so I'll be reading your mail with gusto.
>I was wondering if any of you out there know where a cheap source of
>methanol could be found in or around the Buffalo/Toronto area.
> Thanks for your replies in advance
>
>David ve3bbn
Hi David
Try racetracks,
Hi Jerry
Did I miss something on methanol there or was the lead for gasification?
Thanks
John Harris
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Date: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 1:01
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol
>Check out BG Techno
Check out BG Technologies at
http://www.bgtechnologies.net/eng/index.htm
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> Hi Bud, Lois and All,
> --- Bud & Lo
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>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Help
>
>
> > >Terry mentioned methane hydrate, the solid stuff. With global warming
>now
thane Hydrate would be used up, so it
couldn't cause much damage to the world. The atmosphere could become a much
cleaner place.
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Help
> >
No, it's not that the oceans warming would evaporate the methane hydrate,
but that frustrated oil people, fast running out, will bring it to the
surface. The release of pressure separates the methane from the aqueous
solution
Terry
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Date: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Help
>Sorry I 'm not a chemist. Are you saying methanol is a hydrate? My
>dictionary says a hydrate is a solid compound containing water molecules.
>I've yet to see any methanol but I und
Er - no - I don't think I go along with that.
Methane hydrate is a solid - methane (marsh gas) produced organically when
land sank, but prevented from reaching the atmosphere by the pressure of
1500 feet of water on top.
Start liberating that methane and it becomes a global warming greenhouse gas
>Terry mentioned methane hydrate, the solid stuff. With global warming now
>inevitable, it is important that these rich resources of fossil fuel should
>be captured for use soon, otherwise they will vaporise to methane in the
>atmosphere and become a VERY potent cause of further warming. We've g
Terry mentioned methane hydrate, the solid stuff. With global warming now
inevitable, it is important that these rich resources of fossil fuel should
be captured for use soon, otherwise they will vaporise to methane in the
atmosphere and become a VERY potent cause of further warming. We've got a
Is it not methane hydrate everybody is thinking of?
White, solid, found on the edges of continental shelves and the next phase
of "fossil" fuel to be plundered.
Terry
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the same thing.
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> or it's closer to the chemical name?
>
> "malcolm.scott" wrote:
>
> > Methyl hydr
The big question should be, "would you get a homemade fuel heater for about
$15.00 Canadian, if you could get 5% better fuel mileage with one?"
Greg
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or it's closer to the chemical name?
"malcolm.scott" wrote:
> Methyl hydrate seems to be a Canadian only term for methanol otherwise
> known
> as methyl alcohol or wood alcohol. Perhaps it's a trade name? Maybe
> get a
> phone number for the supplier and ask them.
> Malcolm
>
> - Original M
out here in ns we don't need them either.
Aidan Wilkins wrote:
> I was born and raised a proud Canadian. But I do not have a
> preheater. :)
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Help
> We probably do but not in -10 C weather. Race tracks are closed until the
summer. When I called a speed shop they said they only had methyl hydrate
which doesn't seem like the right thing. Guess I will have to f
Methyl hydrate seems to be a Canadian only term for methanol otherwise known
as methyl alcohol or wood alcohol. Perhaps it's a trade name? Maybe get a
phone number for the supplier and ask them.
Malcolm
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My chemistry is pretty rusty, especially my recollection of nomenclature,
but I think methyl hydrate is the same thing as methyl alcohol, which is
also the same thing as methanol.
Derek
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> We probably do but not in -10 C weather. Race tracks are closed until the
summer. When I called a speed shop they said they
u for your help.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Help
you have no race tracks or speed shops that sell methanol fuel?
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From: "Trudy Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Do you own a diesel fuel preheater? If not, you must not be a true
Canadian!! Only a joke, OK? I'm planning to make a home made one usin
Do you own a diesel fuel preheater? If not, you must not be a true Canadian!!
Only a joke, OK? I'm planning to make a home made one using a Mason jar, a 12
volt beverage heater, and two plastic fittings. This product can probably allow
you to run biodiesel in the winter.
Greg
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Aidan
Didn't you ever hear that the only dumb question is the one that you
didn't ask. Methyl Hydrate sounds like a serious No No. I'm Sure others will
be able to explain it more technically than that for you.
My thought was, since your in a rather cold climate and BioDiesel's gel
point ca
Hi Bud, Lois and All,
--- Bud & Lois Pitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone out there have a good way to make
> methanol out of wood products? I have a small
> sawmill and a lot of sawdust and wood chip that
> should make a good quality methanol, but I'm as dumb
> as dirt about the pro
we use racing fuel, so purity may not be much of an issue. try small batches
to see what works.
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