[svg-developers] logo design

Suppose one has come into ownership of a company made from the fusion of N equally important little companies. Let us not worry how this strange fait accompli of plutocratic shenanigan may have come to pass - doubtless there was intrigue involved! Anyhow, it is important that none of the employ

RE: /offlist RE: [svg-developers] RE: RE: Re: UUgle Map of Pologonia

Obviously an apology is in order. I was intending this venting of frustration to be considerably more private. Sorry to any and all. David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Dailey Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:27 PM

/offlist RE: [svg-developers] RE: RE: Re: UUgle Map of Pologonia

/offlist Hi Francis, My own experience has been that developing to work in both Opera and IE/ASV wasn’t too difficult since they both supported most of the SVG spec. Hence one didn’t need to spend hours fiddling with things only to determine that the browser didn’t do it yet. Gradually FF c

[svg-developers] descriptive geometry and Gaspard Monge

I had the occasion recently to look into Monge's theorem and stumbled into his work on drawing 3-D objects in 2D. It is that sort of late 18th century stuff that portends projective geometry and is well worth looking into, I think. There are a lot of those techniques that are very relevant nowadays

RE: [svg-developers] improved SVG text support in Firefox Nightly

Hi Cameron, Thanks for the work and thanks for the notice. It looks as though you’ve not yet implemented textLength=n and lengthAdjust="spacingAndGlyphs" Those two would be high on my request list for next projects to undertake. Opera, Chrome, Safari and IE have all done them and it e

[svg-developers] The Graphical Web 2013

The deadline for submission of abstracts is June 24th for this conference October 21-23 in San Francisco. Mark it on your calendars and plan to attend. http://www.svgopen.org/2013/index.shtml#participate Cheers David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RE: [svg-developers] Wrapping Text in SVG 2

-Original Message- From: Doug Schepers [mailto:d...@schepers.cc] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:41 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Cc: David Dailey Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Wrapping Text in SVG 2 Hi, David- Thanks for the honest response. I'll try to address your commen

RE: [svg-developers] Wrapping Text in SVG 2

Hi Doug, I suspect you already know that I’ll not be happy until much more is accomplished and am rather dismayed that it has taken more than a decade to get even rudimentary text areas into SVG in a way that will work across browsers. Coupling the fate of SVG with developments in CSS see

RE: [svg-developers] How to manipulate SVG DOM tree: locate items & insert nodes?

The SVG Primer at http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html explains how to do that sort of thing in JavaScript. I would assume that Java methods for manipulating SVG DOM would be similar. The Apache Batik project at http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/ probably has information

[svg-developers] super-simple typefaces

A student and I are working on a project that will involve using the browser-based manipulation and distortion of typefaces using SVG. We're interested in finding a very "simple" and liberally licensed typeface. We've worked with Symbola before which has a nice and full set of glyphs, but the paths

RE: [svg-developers] How to file bug reports in all the different browsers

Hi Richard, Yours is a complaint I tend to share. I am sure that the browser makers want to reduce spam by requiring accounts, but it tends to ensure that the only people who will report bugs are the browser's groupies. An author trying to write content that works across browsers is probably no

RE: [svg-developers] Seed 514 in feTurbulence causes squares

Wow! That is very odd. Firefox and Chrome show the squares in the same locations. Opera, which, along with IE/ASV, for years has had the most stable and complete implementation of filters, does not show the oddity, making me think it is an implementation problem. The last time I looked at Per

[svg-developers] Added interactivity to Voronoi diagram

Many of you have probably seen the Voronoi diagram generator in D3 [1]. Mike Bostock showed it at SVG Open in Boston in 2011, I think. Well, Jake Weidman (who some of you met at the conferences in 2011 and 2012) has added some nice functionality to it: http://cs.sru.edu/~gravity/voronoi.h

RE: [svg-developers] Re: External SVG file in an SVG

13 7:23 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: External SVG file in an SVG --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> , "David Dailey" wrote: > Thanks for the bug number, but I'm not sure quite how

RE: [svg-developers] How to file bug reports in all the different browsers

5:52 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] How to file bug reports in all the different browsers --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> , "David Dailey" wrote: > I can't remember how to file bug rep

RE: [svg-developers] External SVG file in an SVG

Hi Brian, Thanks for the bug number, but I'm not sure quite how to read it. When I see the word "fixed" in the thread, does that mean that in some experimental version of webkit, the problems will someday go away? The examples I reported at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2011Ap

Slight adjustment RE: [svg-developers] The Graphical Web conference -- San Francisco, October 21-23 2013

g the call for papers and sponsorship information soon, both here and at those addresses. Cheers David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Dailey Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 9:20 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Cc: 'Andre

[svg-developers] The Graphical Web conference -- San Francisco, October 21-23 2013

aphicalweb should provide additional details on paper submission, sponsorship opportunities, and so forth. Cheers, David Dailey [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developer

RE: [svg-developers] Re: onmouseover effect

Hi Peter, A couple of things: 1. You might take a look at http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html . It was written at a time that the Adobe plugin for IE (often called ASV) was more relevant (that is, before native SVG support in IE) and the examples were, except as n

[svg-developers] IE and support for declarative animation

I'm just trying to verify that my understanding is accurate. Can anyone comment? 1. I remember Microsoft folks saying that IE would not support SVG SMIL until such time as there was an animation spec that was shared across both SVG and HTML. 2. The CSS WG, with input from the SV

RE: [svg-developers] Safari SVG Script problem - help needed

I think you'll need to show an example. Though Safari seems to lag behind all other browsers in its SVG support , script, most of the time does work in Safari. David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dunbankin Sent: Wednesday, February

RE: [svg-developers] Re: What am I overlooking?

I always assumed that if we had access to a glyph's footprint (which some browsers do) together with the various test-alignment properties in SVG 1.1, then top-aligned fonts like Hindi and the other non-Dravidian Indian scipts, as well as reverse directional scripts would be straightforward. What p

RE: [svg-developers] What am I overlooking?

verlooking? David Try this site too. Problems with both using unicode characters and svg. Different on all four the browsers - Chrome, Firefox, Opera and Safari http://clarify.site44.com/smallgraphics.html Jerry On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM, David Dailey ddai...@zoominternet.net <m

RE: [svg-developers] What am I overlooking?

It was fascinating to me to see how inconsistently Jerry’s example rendered across browsers. IE9 did something still different and what I saw in the four browsers Jerry reported on, my observations were quite different than his. Would we not expect SVG in HTML to render more consistently acro

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Interesting read about scriptless animation

Hi Joe, Your examples didn't seem to make it through, so they may be needed for me to see what you mean. Usually when I want something to blink I do something like or use a collection of sets as in the bottom illustration at http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/2011/SMIL.html It seems li

[svg-developers] Interesting read about scriptless animation

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/x-matters42/index.html cheers D [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com

RE: [svg-developers] Re: following a moving path

lf Of israel_eisenberg Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:52 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: following a moving path Hi David http://owl3d.com/tests/aniCombo.svg Regards Israel --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com&g

RE: [svg-developers] following a moving path

will be needed in SVG 2.0. I'll float the recommendation over there. Cheers David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Dailey Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:08 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:

RE: [svg-developers] following a moving path

being transformed? Cheers D From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Dailey Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:45 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] following a moving path Observe the examples in

[svg-developers] following a moving path

Observe the examples in http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/A1.svg In all browsers but Firefox (where I've filed a bug report) and IE (which seems not to yet support SVG animation) the red oval follows a path that is itself animated (by animating its d attribute). But supposing we want to have an ov

[svg-developers] SVG Open 2013 -- oops, no, make that The Graphical Web 2103

Dear SVG Community, As many of you probably noticed, SVG Open 2012 sort of morphed into "The Graphical Web 2012". I think it was a success. We had lots of attendees, lots of presenters and lots of sponsors. https://www.svgopen.org/2012/ You can see papers and videos of presentations from t

Re: article to contemplate -- was: [svg-developers] Re: Apple iOS 6 SVG Problems

Fascinating read, James, thanks. I didn't know Allaire was a person - I just knew it from products like Homesite and ColdFusion that I and many of my students used for a decade. Allaire, the company, was bought by Macromedia. I can't help but concur with most of what he says and with his concer

RE: [svg-developers] an SVG /Javascript question

From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:28 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] an SVG /Javascript question Hi David, On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:10:06 -0500 &qu

[svg-developers] an SVG /Javascript question

In order to perform transform operations in script rather than doing it declaratively (whence the stack of transforms can become gnarly), I was thinking about ways to simplify the code (from the human rather than the computational perspective). By such perspective, the minimum number of statements

RE: [svg-developers] Creating SVG sound

Hi Jerry, It all sounds very interesting, but despite an intellectual curiosity I must express ignorance. Are you aware of the efforts at public-au...@w3.org ? They're putting together a whole sound spec. It should be able to not only control the mixture and interactive redefinition of multiple

RE: [svg-developers] Re: current level of support for SVG fonts by browser -- preparing for emoji and other semanticons

Hi Robert, You wrote: data:text/html,poo %26%23x1f4a9%3B<%2Fbody> Does that mean that FF will provide path definitions for fonts representing all Unicode, or are emoji viewed as special? When I run the page at http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/SymbolaB1.svg in Firefox, I see that FF curr

[svg-developers] current level of support for SVG fonts by browser -- preparing for emoji and other semanticons

In the four examples at http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/embedSVGfont1.html Here are the scores by browser for what I think should be proper display (if I understand how is supposed to work): IE/Adobe ASV == 4/4 Opera ==1/4 Chrome==1/4 Safari

RE: [svg-developers] Standard Hover Effect

Hi James, Your example makes me want to dig up some similar examples of my own displaying cross browser inconsistencies in how responds to events. In some cases evt.target seems to refer to the object from which the had been cloned, in other cases to the clone itself. I have a vague and

RE: [svg-developers] Filtering out a specific color from an image?

In http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/feTurbulence19.svg (working in FF and Opera) I simply used feComponentTransfer to discretize the blue channel. Not exactly what you wanted, but along those lines. Combining with feColorMatrix seems like the way to go. feComposite can certainly help too, as in http:

RE: [svg-developers] Re: interactive art in SVG

, i dunno something in SVG but maybe this node.js example ist what you looking for: http://demo.tutorialzine.com/2012/08/nodejs-drawing-game/ Cheers Pawel pixelfans.de --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> , "David Dailey"

[svg-developers] animate + replicate + random

In either Opera, Chrome or Firefox take a look at this: http://granite.sru.edu/~eje8449/svg-replicate/rnd-shade-show.svg It is an illustration, created by Eric Elder, of how to use with offsets and to create a texture (as applied to a clip-region). Afterward look at the less than a screenful

[svg-developers] interactive art in SVG

Does anyone know of a collaborative effort to allow multi-person simultaneous drawing on the web using SVG, canvas or other web-based drawing technologies? I'm thinking that the abilities to quickly draw, clone, replicate, morph, interpolate, mutate and extrapolate the collective activities of a sm

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Prague Astronomical Clock simulator

Yes, it is a delightfully well-crafted construction! Cheers David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jamesd Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:05 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Prague Astronomical C

[svg-developers] new form of turbulence?

You'll have to fire up Opera to see it, but I'd not guess you could tell how it is done without looking under the hood. http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/Turbrep2.svg I've never seen anything similar. I guess it is sort of "piecewise Turbulence" gluing together analog chunks into discrete segm

[svg-developers] font stretching

Last year at SVG Open I demonstrated a bunch of text effects: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/text/ (many of which only work well in Opera, owing to the budget crisis in the US I suppose – how else could one explain it?) included were some that involved rolling bubbles through text

RE: [svg-developers] font for legibility of numeric characters

It is a good face and has been > on the Mac since the '80s. > http://s3.amazonaws.com/fourquartets/numberspalatino.html > > Palatino Linotype also have excellent support for non-Latin scripts. > > Jerry > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 8:40 AM, David Dailey <mailto:ddailey%40zoominterne

RE: [svg-developers] font for legibility of numeric characters

been on the Mac since the '80s. http://s3.amazonaws.com/fourquartets/numberspalatino.html Palatino Linotype also have excellent support for non-Latin scripts. Jerry On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 8:40 AM, David Dailey mailto:ddailey%40zoominternet.net> >wrote: > ** > > > Does anyo

[svg-developers] font for legibility of numeric characters

Does anyone have recommendations for a font-family that would be a) Widely available for use across browsers in SVG b) Rendered consistently across browsers in SVG c) Easily legible for numeric characters? The last time I experimented with font support in SVG across browsers

[svg-developers] browser support for Filters 1.0

Does anyone know if any browsers yet support the Shaders model of Filters 1.0? https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/tip/filters/index.html It looks like very fun stuff (Vincent's talk at SVG Open last year made me think it would be). So, it would be fun to start playing with it. Cheers

RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG in SVG - external CSS styling problem - Roberts response

I've not been following this closely, so this may not be at all what folks are talking about, but here's an SVG within an SVG (it wasn't that I set out to do that particular thing but it was the only way I could figure out to get the fun effect): http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/recen

[svg-developers] more declarative randomness: trees, clouds, tornado

http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/randC5.svg It uses a lot of SMIL and animateTransforms and the like, so it needs either Firefox or Opera to work properly (though Safari for Windows at least renders the tornado - I think webkit doesn't like HSL colors). It's less than 100 lines of declarati

[svg-developers] Another random walled city

http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/randA8.svg Hit refresh for new cities. For Firefox, IE9 or Opera. (not Webkit!) This is a bit more complex than the last one I sent: the clouds are new. It uses less than 100 lines of markup. It is an example of what can do when one adds to it.

[svg-developers] random walled European medieval towns

A fun example with and declarative randomness - works in Opera, Firefox or IE9 . (Webkit doesn't like it -- maybe it's the hsl stuff?) Hit the refresh button for a new city every time. http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/randA2.svg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[svg-developers] fancy work with Bezier curves

You might find this work done by Lubos Brieda of particleincell.com to be informative. He's set up an interface that allows dragging the points through which a Bezier curve passes around, rather than the conventional illustration in which we drag control points. It also explains the math.

RE: [svg-developers] How to apply shadow effect on svg elements using css?

Hi Pranjal, My experience (albeit pretty shallow so far on the CSS side) is that cross browser support for the SVG effects being borrowed (with glee, but a bit higgledy-piggledy, in terms of semantic purity and party doctrine) into CSS is that you'll find better cross browser support for SVG t

RE: [svg-developers] SVG still being developed?

I think that it is being used so seamlessly in so many applications on the web now (through D3, JQuery, various Google-thingies, etc.) that people have stopped noticing. All of the browsers have shown steady improvements in their level of support with, basically, each new release, and the standard

RE: [svg-developers] Zoom In Out wih SVG

Hi Barkha, Take a look at this example; it may give some ideas on how to zoom on all or part of an SVG http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/recent/sliderzoom2.svg This example now seems to work everywhere but in Safari/Windows (which has pretty spotty SVG support*, lagging a half y

RE: [svg-developers] clippling replicate objects

Hi Richard, I think the situation you mention is one of the shortcomings of replicate at the moment: how to confine its shading and rich gradient possibilities to a given shape? Here are some experiments: http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/gradRep1.svg If were a full-fledged member of SVG

RE: [svg-developers] Help? What sites & blogs allow upload and viewing of animated SVG photos?

I experimented briefly with Google sites (I think that is what it is called) a year or so ago, hoping to find a place where the SVG community could share a repository of fun examples, but it appeared, at the time, not to allow SVG content. Perhaps that has changed a bit by now, but I've not had a c

RE: [svg-developers] Drag from DOM Element of HTML & Drop into SVG Element

Hello Barkha, This is an interesting question, and is something I've never tried. What I would try is something like this (rolling my own event handlers and script rather than relying on libraries that might do some of the interface handling) a) Activate the html documentElement so that i

RE: [svg-developers] Re: getBBox that takes into account clipping?

Hi Robert, Maybe I am not understanding, but consider two equivalent crescent shapes (or C's) that share a centroid but with one of them rotated 90 degrees. The intersection of the bounding boxes is much larger than the bounding box of the intersection of the shapes. David From: svg-dev

[svg-developers] PlanetSVG is listed as suspicious

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://planetsvg.com/tool s/mime.php &hl=en Interesting. I was trying to get to info about setting mimetypes, but the site seems to have been the t

[svg-developers] video affected by SVG clip-path

I have put a video in an HTML5 document and have succeeded in having it clipped by an SVG clip-path (and also filtered) as follows: video {position:absolute; filter: url(#f1);clip-path: url(#c1); } p{left:50%;top:5%; position:absolute;clip-path: url(#c1);}

RE: [svg-developers] Getting current time in svg file...

You've used document.write to try to insert SVG content. I think that will only work in HTML. For SVG, you'll have to use DOM methods to do that. There are a zillion SVG clocks out there, but here's the one I can find easily: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/ballclock.svg

[svg-developers] Deadline approaching for submission of abstracts for SVG Open/The Open Web 2012

Just a reminder to all you good folks that May 7th is the deadline for submission of abstracts for this year's conference in Zurich in September: http://www.svgopen.org/2012/dates.shtml This year's conference will be sponsored by Adobe, Google, Microsoft and NVIdia and supported by the W3C

RE: [svg-developers] Re: showing full svg content whithout calculating extents

No, I don’t believe there is any such tag or attribute to set the viewBox so that it will hold all drawn contents of a drawing. I could see the value, though, of what you’re saying: doing it declaratively instead of via script. As it is, I believe you’d have to do as Yannick says: render all con

tactile accessibility as an alternative to color [was RE: [svg-developers] diagonal lines in pattern elements ]

-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] diagonal lines in pattern elements On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:16:27 +0200, David Dailey mailto:ddailey%40zoominternet.net> > wrote: > http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/V12.svg > > > In the bottom right illustration on this

[svg-developers] diagonal lines in pattern elements

http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/V12.svg In the bottom right illustration on this page, note how the diagonal lines (created through varying both size and viewBox attributes on a pattern tag) have small discontinuities. (in all modern browsers) Does anyone see an obvious way around that?

RE: [svg-developers] A path from SVG to MS Word?

then print the document in IE/Opera to the PDF driver. Search "print to pdf" in google for PDF printer drivers. I'm currently using Bullzip PDF driver but there are several others available too. Regards, Daniel David Dailey skrev 2012-04-02 00:31: > A conference that I'm

[svg-developers] getting xor filters to work

In the mid 1980's I played a bit with MacPascal and wrote a simple thing that overlaid XOR bitblt's of circles at random locations to create some interesting (and rather paradoxical) visual effects. Consider the file at http://theory.cs.uvic.ca/~cos/venn/gifs/anim-nc.gif as discussed in http://

[svg-developers] A path from SVG to MS Word?

A conference that I'm submitting a paper to allows either LaTex or MS Word as formats. It has been at least 70 years since I used TeX, so Word is the format I'm left with. The problem: most of the illustrations I have are in SVG format and use complex filters and the journal states a strong pre

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Borromean rings and Firefox SMIL -- also funky Opera and Chrome behavior

x27;t resist and had some more fun with cars: http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~s9783698/svg/overtakingCars.svg There's also some funky Opera behavior, and Chrome doesn't seem to respect . Thomas W. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> ,

[svg-developers] Borromean rings and Firefox SMIL -- also funky Opera and Chrome behavior

In the page at http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/rings.svg I see something in Firefox that I have actually noticed, more or less, consistently but anecdotally for a couple of years. In this case it becomes more obvious: Sometimes SMIL animation in Firefox comes to a complete but temporary hal

RE: [svg-developers] Issues with iOS and Android

: Re: [svg-developers] Issues with iOS and Android On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:12:28 -0400 "David Dailey" mailto:ddailey%40zoominternet.net> > wrote: > This isn't a very complete answer, not having either of the relevant > devices, but a couple of observations may

RE: [svg-developers] Issues with iOS and Android

This isn't a very complete answer, not having either of the relevant devices, but a couple of observations may be worthwhile: 1. Androids purchased last summer, like mine, apparently will not run SVG. I didn't realize that Droids became obsolete so quickly, but I'm told one needs the Ice

RE: [svg-developers] Re: more on knots and traffic jams

ilto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> , "David Dailey" wrote: > > Just a small footnote: so long as the angles of intersection are all right > angles, there's no real problem. See the second example at > > http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/knot2.svg > > >

RE: [svg-developers] more on knots and traffic jams

Just a small footnote: so long as the angles of intersection are all right angles, there's no real problem. See the second example at http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/knot2.svg cheers D From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David D

[svg-developers] more on knots and traffic jams

A while back, some of us had discussions about traffic jams and knots. I had posted something that was sorta cute, Israel Eisenberg and G. Wade Johnson came up with some improvements as I recall. Well here's another version, borrowing some of each: http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/knot1.s

RE: [svg-developers] Re: ie9 and foreign namespace attributes

Hi Alan, My own experiments with HTML5 as a container for SVG persuade me that it's not quite ready for prime time yet. HTML5 has some good ideas but hasn't yet quite congealed I think. If I want the few goodies that HTML has to offer that SVG doesn't yet (flowing text and tables), then I tend

RE: [svg-developers] ie9 and foreign namespace attributes

For IE9 (and presumably IE10 as well), the HTML document has to have the HTML5 doctype declaration: . It should work just fine after that. regards David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of krugerboy1971 Sent: Tuesday, March 13,

[svg-developers] Diagrams for additive and subtractive color

See http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/V1.svg This represents two Venn diagrams illustrating the additive and subtractive color models. (using 3 circles rather than the seven paths used at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SubtractiveColor.svg ) Because of the way feImage is used with feBlend,

RE: [svg-developers] Re: access svg elements from HTML5

I haven't had a chance to look at your question at all and was glad to see Jake had some suggestions. Just anecdotally, I've noticed that a lot of things governing the relationship between "HTML5" (as it is ambiguously termed in the world at large) and SVG that were somewhat predictable in HTML-SVG

RE: [svg-developers] How to file bug reports in all the different browsers

012 5:52 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] How to file bug reports in all the different browsers --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> , "David Dailey" wrote: > I can't remember how to file bug

[svg-developers] Bounding box bug in webkit

http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/B/bbox2.3.svg Both Safari and Chrome miscalculate the bounding box in this example rather dramatically. The other browsers (IE, Opera, FF, and ASV) all seem okay. I can't remember how to file bug reports in all the different browsers - they seem intent on

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Scaling from center point of element

quot;th_w@..." wrote: > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> , "th_w@" wrote: > > > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com> , Cameron McCormack wrote: >

RE: [svg-developers] Scaling from center point of element

-developers@yahoogroups.com Cc: David Dailey Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Scaling from center point of element David Dailey: > As often as I've seen this question in the past n years (for some n > k) I'd > have to resurrect the suggestion that scaling and rotation relative

RE: [svg-developers] Scaling from center point of element

As often as I've seen this question in the past n years (for some n > k) I'd have to resurrect the suggestion that scaling and rotation relative to the center be added to the spec: transform="scale(2, centroid)" or transform="rotate(90, BBCenter)" , or something like it, just oughta make sense.

[svg-developers] SVG performance: DOM vs CSS

Some friends and I have had this discussion of late: is script (involving lots of DOM manipulation) or CSS (involving script) for efficient in terms of browser implementation. I can imagine thought experiments to resolve the issue, but the results would only prove things in certain dreams (albe

[svg-developers] eggs revisited

The example at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/eggcloning3.svg represents one of my first attempts (circa 2004) to create a non-trivial bit of dynamic SVG. It worked as I hoped and designed in IE/ASV. Later as newfangled implementations of SVG came along like Opera and Firefox, I fi

RE: [svg-developers] Support for Adobe SVG viewer dropped

Hi, Web support for SVG can be found in modern versions of Chrome, Safari, Opera, Firefox and IE. For the latter you'll need IE9 or above. For IE<9 the Adobe viewer still works; Adobe is no longer developing the plugin, but it still works and as of a month or so ago I checked and you can still

[svg-developers] favorite SVG demos/examples

Hi folks, I'm giving a presentation on SVG soon (in India) and wondered if you could point me to some of your favorite examples of SVG in action. I'm particularly interested in examples that are easy to demo, but which demonstrate some nice interactivity with server-side data. I used to use

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Scaling behaviour and the browser

That is consistent with my observations as well. I don’t think Chrome has yet implemented SMIL à script activities. Of the approximately 80 tests contained in the first 60 links (excluding # 37) at http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/2011/Galorie.html , Chrome passes 35/80. Safari does worse than C

RE: [svg-developers] SVG for android?

10:59 AM, David Dailey wrote: > ** > > > Does anyone know if it is possible to get an Android cell phone to support > SVG? Near as I can tell the thing makes a decent cell phone, but despite my > recent upgrade of the system software, it still doesn't display the most > ba

[svg-developers] SVG for android?

Does anyone know if it is possible to get an Android cell phone to support SVG? Near as I can tell the thing makes a decent cell phone, but despite my recent upgrade of the system software, it still doesn't display the most basic of SVG documents. Do I need to use Opera Mobile instead of whatever

RE: [svg-developers] Keep shapes and lines connected when moved

What you've described sounds a bit like the graph editor at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/grapher/ . It worked in all five browsers in 2009, but some of them seem to have been intent on making sure this remains no longer the case, I think. You could also use parts of SVG edit (which google

RE: [svg-developers] Scaling behaviour and the browser

As I zoom in (using CTRL +), I see what you mean. Opera also, then does not show the proper hover effect (rolling over to the original image). I don't see what you mean though at regular levels of zoom. Certainly this is a bug in at least some browsers, if not an underspecification by the s

RE: [svg-developers] SVG developer wanted to make Online Graphic edit app for printing website

I don't know if you've seen svg-edit or not, but it's open source and pretty stable. Though it might not be what you need, it might be a good starting point for someone. http://code.google.com/p/svg-edit/ good luck, David AT: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:03 PM Robinangeloo WROTE: My

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Trying to animate two lines moving each other

While you are at it, it might not hurt to try things in both Opera and Firefox. Opera, overall is a bit further ahead than Firefox, I think, in their support for SVG/SMIL, though both are ahead of Chrome and Safari. All four, however, are making progress in their support of the spec. Usually, t

[svg-developers] Best data visualizations of 2011

I just found this link: http://flowingdata.com/2011/12/21/the-best-data-visualization-projects-of-20 11/ D3 is ranked number one, with a number of other compelling images that some of you may recall having seen. Congrats to Mike Bostock (cc-ed on this) and the others working with D3!

[svg-developers] SVG IDE

Our CompSci department has approved a new course to start offering in the fall of 2012: Web Graphics. It'll deal a bit with , JavaScript, color theory, graphical algorithms, CSS and, of course, SVG (if there is any left after the CSS invaders have taken their plunder!). I'm interested in equipping

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