Re: [sympy] feedback for GSOC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
Sure, it can be a separate project if you want, though in that case, you might also look into ways that you could improve SymPy Live in parallel. Aaron Meurer On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Bharath M R wrote: > I think writing the parser would be a GSOC project in itself. Also, I think > I do

[sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Aleksandar Makelov
Hi, Yup I'm looking at the GAP website now and it seems like a lot of fun; I'm also looking for some kind of algorithm reference for computational group theory like the ones listed at GAP. I'll have a lot of work to do in the next couple of days (break's over) but will try to implement at least on

[sympy] Re: Sympy quick guide

2012-03-17 Thread Abhiram Ampabathina
On Mar 15, 10:06 pm, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Abhiram Ampabathina > > wrote: > > >                         "Leave this page as flag"  means that, to > > leave this page as marked. When i open my practical guide it should > > not start from the first page, instead

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Alan Bromborsky
On 03/17/2012 05:10 AM, Aleksandar Makelov wrote: Hi, Yup I'm looking at the GAP website now and it seems like a lot of fun; I'm also looking for some kind of algorithm reference for computational group theory like the ones listed at GAP. I'll have a lot of work to do in the next couple of days

Re: [sympy] feedback for GSOC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Joachim Durchholz wrote: > > However, I would not stick with the first syntax that gives a match. It's > entirely possible that two different syntaxes give a valid parse. > So: try all syntaxes. Check if they give the same abstract syntax (logical > structure, if

Re: [sympy] feedback for GSOC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Joachim Durchholz wrote: > Am 14.03.2012 14:15, schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > >> I see.  I thought the differences in syntax were not that influential. > > > Well, it's not just syntax. The way you express semantic actions can have a > deep impact. > It's alike the sim

[sympy] [GSOC 2012] Matrix Algebra

2012-03-17 Thread Sai Nikhil
Hi, Intro: Sai Nikhil, 3rd year Graduate Student. Has enough experience with python programming . I am following up from various topics list on Sympy-GSoC 2012 ideas page. I found Series, Matrices, Functions modules specifically interesting. I wanted to know which algorithm has been implemented i

Re: [sympy] GSOC 2012

2012-03-17 Thread Alan Bromborsky
On 03/16/2012 04:02 PM, Joachim Durchholz wrote: Am 16.03.2012 12:00, schrieb Alan Bromborsky: One more suggestion with applications to groups, algebra, rings, differential forms, etc. One should allow the evaluation of user defined functions of operations on symbols (especially noncommutative s

[sympy] introduction and clarification regading the project

2012-03-17 Thread vishu goyal
Sir, I am highly interested in mathematics ,physics and wish to mentored. I am currently pursuing my B.Tech in Computer Science and have undertaken various higher Mathematics courses. Also, I am well-versed with C++ and basics of python. Even i have cracked two indian domestic egg entrance exa

[sympy] Implement modules for fundamental algebraic structures in sympy

2012-03-17 Thread Gaurav Sathe
Hi all, I am interested in participating in Gsoc and I would like to know if this could be a good project for sympy. As you know the concept of group theory is widely used in abstract mathematics. Currently there is no module in sympy for the various algebraic structures which come under abstr

Re: [sympy] [GSOC 2012] Matrix Algebra

2012-03-17 Thread Ronan Lamy
Le samedi 17 mars 2012 à 20:39 +0530, Sai Nikhil a écrit : > Hi, > > > Intro: Sai Nikhil, 3rd year Graduate Student. Has enough experience > with python programming . > > > I am following up from various topics list on Sympy-GSoC 2012 ideas > page. I found Series, Matrices, Functions modules sp

Re: [sympy] Implement modules for fundamental algebraic structures in sympy

2012-03-17 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Gaurav Sathe wrote: > Hi all, I am interested in participating in Gsoc and I would like to know if > this could be a good project for sympy. > > As you know the concept of group theory is widely used in abstract > mathematics. Currently there is no module in sympy

Re: [sympy] Re: Sympy quick guide

2012-03-17 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Abhiram Ampabathina wrote: > >                  Congratulations on GSOC 2012 acceptance. You asked > about the details of the project right? I will give the document that > i prepared for the project.  This document is just for the project > details not for the pr

[sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Saptarshi Mandal
Hi Alex, I worked as a student last year and may apply as mentor this year. Please take a look at my branches in github. I was implementing the Schreier Sims algorithm but I ran out of time unfortunately. You could either help me merge my branches in or take off where I left. Regards Saptarshi -

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC Acceptance

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
What org(s) did you work with? Aaron Meurer On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:24 PM, lira.lg wrote: > I want to help you review applications or as a backup mentor. I am > GSoC mentor since 2008 and GCI mentor since 2010. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

Re: [sympy] introduction and clarification regading the project

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
For eligibility, you should read the GSoC FAQ at google-melange.com, and ask at http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss?pli=1 if you are unsure. All of these ideas are good. For your idea about palindromes and coprime numbers, I guess this would be part of the number theory m

[sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Saptarshi Mandal
> > And it would be awesome to have a group theory module.  We presently > only have a Permutation class in the combinatorics module, but other > than that, we don't really have a good way to represent a group. Is this necessary? All groups are isomorphic to the permutation group anyway. Groups fo

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread krastanov.ste...@gmail.com
> > Is this necessary? All groups are isomorphic to the permutation group > anyway. Groups for specific structures can make use of functionality > implemented for them (matrix group -> sympy matrices, galois -> polys) > for basic operations and can implement the mapping to the perm group > module f

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Saptarshi Mandal wrote: >> >> And it would be awesome to have a group theory module.  We presently >> only have a Permutation class in the combinatorics module, but other >> than that, we don't really have a good way to represent a group. > > Is this necessary? All

Re: [sympy] Re: Sympy quick guide

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Abhiram Ampabathina > wrote: >> >>                         "Leave this page as flag"  means that, to >> leave this page as marked. When i open my practical guide it should >> not start from the first page, i

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:55 PM, krastanov.ste...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Is this necessary? All groups are isomorphic to the permutation group >> anyway. Groups for specific structures can make use of functionality >> implemented for them (matrix group -> sympy matrices, galois -> polys) >> for ba

[sympy] [GSoC 2012] Step-By-Step Expression Manipulation

2012-03-17 Thread lois postula
Hi Everyone, I am a first year Bachelor Student in Computer Sciences, in Brussels. I start using and learning Python since the beginning of this academic year, and I have done lot's of projects with the cursus, the bigger of them is a program whose goals is to provide user a Gui application wi

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:11 PM, David Joyner wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:55 PM, krastanov.ste...@gmail.com > wrote: >>> >>> Is this necessary? All groups are isomorphic to the permutation group >>> anyway. Groups for specific structures can make use of functionality >>> implemented for t

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Alan Bromborsky
On 03/17/2012 04:11 PM, David Joyner wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:55 PM, krastanov.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Is this necessary? All groups are isomorphic to the permutation group anyway. Groups for specific structures can make use of functionality implemented for them (matrix group -> sympy

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread krastanov.ste...@gmail.com
@David Joyner, my error was in what I call a permutation group (I did not consider subgroups). Thanks for the correction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To post to this group, send email to sympy@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from t

[sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Aleksandar Makelov
> I think a main reference is "Permutation Group Algorithms" by Akos > Seress  - Cambridge Tracts in Mathemathics 152 published 2003. Thanks! The "Handbook of computational group theory" also looks like serious business. Unfortunately, neither of these is a free resource; I might end up buying on

Re: [sympy] Re: Sympy quick guide

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Abhiram Ampabathina > wrote: >> >>                  Congratulations on GSOC 2012 acceptance. You asked >> about the details of the project right? I will give the document that >> i prepared for the project.

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Aleksandar Makelov wrote: > >> I think a main reference is "Permutation Group Algorithms" by Akos >> Seress  - Cambridge Tracts in Mathemathics 152 published 2003. > > Thanks! The "Handbook of computational group theory" also looks like > serious business. Unfortun

Re: [sympy] [GSoC 2012] Step-By-Step Expression Manipulation

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, lois postula wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I am a first year Bachelor Student in Computer Sciences, in Brussels. I > start using and learning Python since the beginning of this academic year, > and > I have done lot's of projects with the cursus, the bigger of them is a

Re: [sympy] Re: Sympy quick guide

2012-03-17 Thread krastanov.ste...@gmail.com
Concerning the project on documentation: It is borderline with respect to the eligibility requirements. According to the FAQ on melange pure documentation projects are not eligible for gsoc. I am not writing this to discourage, rather to remark that in the application it should be clearly stated th

[sympy] Re: Implement modules for fundamental algebraic structures in sympy

2012-03-17 Thread Saptarshi Mandal
Rebase and squash all the commits into one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To post to this group, send email to sympy@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options

Re: [sympy] feedback for GSOC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Joachim Durchholz
Am 17.03.2012 13:25, schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Joachim Durchholz wrote: Am 14.03.2012 14:15, schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: I see. I thought the differences in syntax were not that influential. Well, it's not just syntax. The way you express semantic actions can hav

Re: [sympy] feedback for GSOC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Joachim Durchholz
Am 17.03.2012 13:03, schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Joachim Durchholz wrote: However, I would not stick with the first syntax that gives a match. It's entirely possible that two different syntaxes give a valid parse. So: try all syntaxes. Check if they give the same a

Re: [sympy] Implement modules for fundamental algebraic structures in sympy

2012-03-17 Thread Joachim Durchholz
Am 17.03.2012 19:07, schrieb Gaurav Sathe: As you know the concept of group theory is widely used in abstract mathematics. Currently there is no module in sympy for the various algebraic structures which come under abstract maths such as groups,rings,vector spaces,modules and fields. I really thi

Re: [sympy] Re: Sympy quick guide

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
Thanks for pointing that out. So any "documentation" project would have to contain a good amount of code work. I guess that means that writing documentation itself would have to be secondary (contrary to what I may have said before). Aaron Meurer On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, krastanov.ste..

[sympy] is it ok for sympify to remove spaces?

2012-03-17 Thread smichr
If we allow sympify to remove spaces then one can sympify an expression like >>> S('distance travelled/time travelled') distancetravelled/timetravelled Is that ok? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To post to this group, send em

Re: [sympy] is it ok for sympify to remove spaces?

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
It's probably a bad idea to just do a .replace(' ', '') on the input for a few reasons. First, spaces can be necessary for some syntax that it parses. For example, when we fix http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=3051. Second, it's not clear to me what that should do. Should we consi

[sympy] Sets Module

2012-03-17 Thread Matthew Rocklin
So recently I've been avoiding my research and instead working on SymPy. In particular I've been playing with sets. I've been cleaning up how sets intersect with each other . I've also been building a method to define new sets as algebraic expressions of

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
Is that a preprint? Some of the sections seem unfinished (for example, section 10). Aaron Meurer On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Alan Bromborsky wrote: > On 03/17/2012 04:59 PM, Aaron Meurer wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Aleksandar Makelov >>  wrote: I think a main r

Re: [sympy] Re: GSoC 2012 idea

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Meurer
I wouldn't trust much from that section anyway, though, since the paper is from 1998. Aaron Meurer On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Aaron Meurer wrote: > Is that a preprint?  Some of the sections seem unfinished (for > example, section 10). > > Aaron Meurer > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM,

[sympy] GSOC questions from a student

2012-03-17 Thread stampsrule
Hi, I am interested in working with sympy for GSOC but would like to discuss it further with someone. I have completed some computer science courses and this current semester the course I am in focused on python. I have only taken first year level classes so interested in either one of two directi

[sympy] Re: Sympy quick guide

2012-03-17 Thread Abhiram Ampabathina
On Mar 18, 3:22 am, Aaron Meurer wrote: > Thanks for pointing that out.  So any "documentation" project would > have to contain a good amount of code work.  I guess that means that > writing documentation itself would have to be secondary (contrary to > what I may have said before). > > Aaron Me