RE: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

I don't know why you guys are so proud of your vandalism. Street punks always have a reason why they do what they do. It's still wrong. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James R. Kaminsky Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:50 PM To:

RE: t-and-f: Concrete VS Asphalt (was: Why on the street?)

There you have it, the analysis from John MacAdam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher Goss Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:28 AM To: Hanks, Jeffrey S; 'picqc'; Mike Prizy Cc: Kurt Bray; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f:

Re: t-and-f: Peak age... Americans have it wrong?

I am (or was) a professional statistician. I did a somewhat unscientific study where I took top track athletes over a period of time looking at their best time and how old they were when they ran it. For most middle distances; 24 was it. For longer distances, 10K or marathon - it was around

Re: t-and-f: Peak age... Americans have it wrong?

Exactly. So lets assume for a 1500 guy 24 is the age at which the body is most able to run its fastest (given the proper number of years training, intensity, etc). How many 24 year olds are prepared to do so? Very few if you ask me. Why? Because after college is when the REAL training

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

I wonder if this punk is proud of his vandalism. Regards, Martin Hamilton, preparing for the GP Eddy Merckx, suffered a broken right collarbone and facial injuries Sunday when a car driver opened his door just as the rider was passing.

Re: t-and-f: Peak age... Americans have it wrong?

How many 24 year olds are prepared to do so? Very few if you ask me. Why? Because after college is when the REAL training starts. That's one year of real training to maximize the body's full potential. Not nearly long enough. Maybe Alan Webb has taken the right path for the 24 year old

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

Tyler Hamilton, preparing for the GP Eddy Merckx, suffered a broken right collarbone and facial injuries Sunday when a car driver opened his door just as the rider was passing. http://waymoresports.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=waymorespo

Re: t-and-f: Peak age... Americans have it wrong?

Folks, To add my $.02 to the fray, I always think back to what Vigil told me when I asked him this question. He said it takes someone roughly 10 years of consistent work to get to the top of their game. African's start earlier than we do. If they start training at 12, then their best years

t-and-f: results - Liège International Meeting

from Iaaf.org Results: Men 100 METRES: Race 1 (called ?B?)(-0.4): 1. Moke (CGO) 10.60; 2. Ungerer (NED) 10.66 . . . Race 2 (called ?A?)(-0.2): 1. B Williams (USA) 10.17; 2. Crawford (USA) 10.20; 3. Miller (USA) 10.25; 4. Conwright (USA) 10.37; 5. Lewis (USA) 10.38; 6. Sekanyambo

Re: t-and-f: USATF News Notes: August 5, 2002

Okay, if Joe is gone, could someone turn off his computer? Contact: Joe Hughes Communications Intern USA Track Field (317) 261-0478 x357 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News Notes Volume 3, Number 76

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

I suppose there is some sort of point you are trying to articulate? That cyclists are maniacs on the road, reckless reprobates oblivious to their surroundings? Everyone knows that! I wonder if this punk is proud of his vandalism. Regards, Martin Hamilton, preparing for the GP Eddy Merckx,

RE: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

EXACTLY The smart thing to do would be to anticipate the fact that the vast majority of people making turns in the right turn on red zones do NOT do anything more than make a perfunctory glance to their right way before they reach the intersection. Is is the best method? Nope. But you could

RE: t-and-f: USATF News Notes: August 5, 2002

Hi Lee. I appreciate the humor, and I can assure you that Joe's computer is off. Again, this particular edition of News notes is *not* going to our email distribution list - this problem is only happening on the tnf list. We are trying to determine if this is a problem on our end or if it is

t-and-f: let me repost this

since it came in under our old friend the august 5 tag, suspect most people just deleted it. gh From: USATF Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: USATF Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:57:00 -0500 To: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED], USATF Communications [EMAIL

t-and-f: RE: t-and-f: results - Liège International Meeting

Some crashing and buring in 'record' attempts at 600 meters. Mutola 53.92 at 400m, then 28.95 for last 200m. Mutua 48.34 at 400m, then 25.15. Still a better finish than Johnny Gray (1:12.81), 47.1/25.7. -Original Message- From: Kebba Tolbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday,

t-and-f: Van Damme... Americans?

We had 6 guys run sub 28 as early as June 21st and none of these guys are racing the one main 10k of the year... Van Damme. I mean, even if they peaked for a May 3rd race (Meb, Browne, Wells, Hauser) or Nationals on June 21st (Abdi, Culpepper), there has been plenty of time to come back down

Re: t-and-f: Associated Publishers Subscription Services

From: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Computomarx™ Reply-To: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:00:03 -0500 To: T-AND-F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Associated Publishers Subscription Services I just got a notice from an outfit called

Re: t-and-f: Van Damme... Americans?

Culpepper is debuting at Chicago. Hauser and Browne are debuting at Twin Cities in a month. Rumors have one of the other guys you mentioned debuting this fall as well. Don't know why Abdi isn't running. Never thought I'd write so much about debutantes. sideshow

t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

Folks, I just came across this bit on espn.com in an article about the possibility of dropping baseball and softball from the Olympics (here's the link: http://espn.go.com/oly/news/2002/0828/1423814.html): Several disciplines -- including Greco-Roman wrestling, the three-day event in

Re: t-and-f: concrete vs. asphalt

I know enought physics to be dangerous, so here goes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even with cushioned shoes, there is a force that is reflected back into the foot. This force is dependent upon the coefficient of restitution between the two materials. Could you please explain this idea

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

From: Ernest Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ernest Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:00:51 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC Folks, I just came across this bit on espn.com in an article about the possibility of dropping

Re: t-and-f: Van Damme... Americans?

Could be that the Chicago guys are putting in a high volume of miles so running any race right now would prove to be futile. You'll see the same with a lot of marathoners. Josh Cox and the Dr. Rosa's Kenyans don't race much beyond a couple marathons and halfmarathons a year. If these guys

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

Folks, I just came across this bit on espn.com in an article about the possibility of dropping baseball and softball from the Olympics (here's the link: http://espn.go.com/oly/news/2002/0828/1423814.html): Several disciplines -- including Greco-Roman wrestling, the three-day event in

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

Add Cross-Country! Alan From: Ernest Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ernest Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:00:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mc1-f19.law16.hotmail.com ([65.54.236.26]) by

Re: t-and-f: Associated Publishers Subscription Services

One way you can tell if you're being scammed is if anybody offers you a MULTI-YEAR subscription at a rate less than what the magazine quotes. On a similar note, for those who have a website with domain registration, be careful when receiving a deceptive renewal from another company.

t-and-f: Radcliffe response

) - European 10,000 metres champion Paula Radcliffe has asked the IAAF to conduct random tests on her and to freeze her blood samples for future testing following media scepticism over her performances this year. http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sa/news/reuters/20020828/reu-radcliffe.html

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

X/C should be added to the winter Olympics, absolutely. Not sure why there hasn't been more of a push for this. Nice simple 12K and 4K distance for both men and women with team medals only but with qualification only by the team the same way some other team sports qualify. Have the worlds

Re: t-and-f: concrete vs. asphalt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose we take a temporal Fourier transform of the force applied to the bottom of the foot at landing, and inspect the power invested in each frequency. The most damaging frequencies ought to be those which correspond to the normal modes of the bones in the leg,

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

From: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:19:12 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC X/C should be added to the winter Olympics, absolutely. Not sure why there hasn't

Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe response

LONDON (Reuters) - European 10,000 metres champion Paula Radcliffe has asked the IAAF to conduct random tests on her and to freeze her blood samples for future testing following media scepticism over her performances this year. Jeez, who is skeptical of her? She's not really doing anything

Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe response

LONDON (Reuters) - European 10,000 metres champion Paula Radcliffe has asked the IAAF to conduct random tests on her and to freeze her blood samples for future testing following media scepticism over her performances this year. Jeez, who is skeptical of her? She's not really doing

Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe response

From: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:40:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe response Certainly doesn't strike me as odd. I haven't read the L'Equipe article, but it doesn't sound like good

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

how about indoor track at the winter olympics? --- ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:19:12 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the

t-and-f: questions and answers

Hopefully this will be the last posting on the mystery News Notes spam, and the problem will magically fix itself. Our crack IT staff looked into it by having examining the header on the multiple postings to the TnF list. Here's what they had to say: Very strange. It doesn't appear that the

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

As Gary said, only if Maurice, et al, are wearing ice skates. That should make the end of the 60 meters interesting! how about indoor track at the winter olympics? --- ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortuately, the IOC retains its caveat that all Winter sports must be conducted on

Re: t-and-f: Van Damme... Americans?

One interesting comment I've heard from some first timers at Chicago is that they would do more speed work before the next time they run Chicago. After his 1997 run in Chicago, Khalid Khannouchi said he would treat his next Chicago more like a 10,000 on the track. alan tobin wrote:

Re: t-and-f: Van Damme... Americans?

One interesting comment I've heard from some first timers at Chicago is that they would do more speed work before the next time they run Chicago. After his 1997 run in Chicago, Khalid Khannouchi said he would treat his next Chicago more like a 10,000 on the track. Yeah, but look at the staple

t-and-f: US Marathon Champ's

Hi All, Earlier this week, I mentioned that I was putting together a list of the top 20 finishers from the men's US Marathon Championships from the last decade. This was stimulated by an interest in those sorts of stats but also a desire for some idea of what it has taken recently to breach the

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

Wonder if adidas produces ice skates? Or would Maurice switch back to Nike? Based on current form, he might be responsible for more Nike sales now than when he was under contract to them. Jim - Original Message - From: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

Yeah, you'd think Nike would have come out with some Before and After ads. :-) Wonder if adidas produces ice skates? Or would Maurice switch back to Nike? Based on current form, he might be responsible for more Nike sales now than when he was under contract to them. Jim

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

From: Colleen Rorick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Colleen Rorick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:22:42 -0700 To: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Track Posts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC Wonder if adidas produces ice skates? Or

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

I thought the biggest (mass participation) headache of the Olympics was the Opening Ceremonies? (How long was the Opening ceremonies? 5 hours? Pity the host country's athletes standing and waiting for hours to march into the stadium) The Canada Games (held every 4 years, the year after the

t-and-f: CC sie

Netters: Does anyone out there hade the address of a good site to retrieve college CC results this fall. Ed Grant

t-and-f: Pole Vault Standard

Does anyone on the list have the March 1999 edition of the Pole Vault Standard? I am looking for the article by David Lease. Please contact me privately. thanks, Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps Multis Coach Syracuse University Track Field

Re: t-and-f: CC sie

In a message dated 8/28/02 9:17:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone out there hade the address of a good site to retrieve college CC results this fall. Ed Grant Subscribers to X-Country X-Press will have all the

RE: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

Actually I investigated getting XC as an olympic event 4 years and even got a response from the IOC. The reason that it will NEVER be possible (as I was told) is that all winter sports must take place on snow or ice. *** Fred Finke,

RE: t-and-f: concrete vs. asphalt

I agree with most of what Christopher and Jim said, yet would like to weigh in, perhaps more as a runner than a physicist. Some additional things to take into account: (Warning: lengthy and extremely boring text follows) The overly simplistic argument for why asphalt should NOT be very different

RE: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

Tom, I agree totally (I did grow up in NY and ran my HS state meet in Buffalo in the Snow!). However, yours and my view do not coincide with that of the IOC. Xc runners would touch the ground. Fred -Original Message- From: Tom Derderian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

I know Fred that you live in Florida, but you can run a cross-country race entirely on snow and ice. Once I went to compete in a cross-country ski race but it had rained the night before then froze. The director changed it into a running race over the same course. My shoes never touched ground.

Re: t-and-f: Interesting Tidbit from the IOC

I think the IOC would agree that cross country *could* be contested entirely on snow or ice, but the point is that their policy is that a sport always *must* be contested on snow or ice to get into the Winter Games. The fact that XC's rules do not require a snow covered course disqualifies