Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

Netters, >From the villiage here... What Costas did. Was in 88. He or rather the producers had some callopy type music played then Costas said :He didn't set a world record, but at least he walked like a man." Now, after that he got a ton of letters and in 92 said "I donb't know haw may racew

Re: t-and-f: The Walks

Netters I leave in one day - computer time is limited. I will answer what I can. > race. That Australian lady must be in such a depression tonight. Jane Saville most likely single handedly saved the event and a riot. She was qouted several times as saying that being dqed was part of the eve

Re: t-and-f: Depth of Talent

Netters In response to David Monti's list - do we even have that many guys in the U.S? Also note only 7 are 30+ Next question - S.A. is so deep like this - a 10 second gap - why aren't they better in Cross?

Re: t-and-f: "U.S. looks to clean up drug issues," by Sheila Hudson

Netters Peter wrote: > This was just posted on the Canadian list. Any truth in it ? Yeah Pete. where you been? It came across over a month ago. Ephidrine results in a warning - so why would he not compete? Not a big deal here I think.

Re: t-and-f: Cottrell Hunter .... retiring?

Netters Walt wrote: > Hunter announced his retirement in an interview he did with NBC's Ahmad > Rashad in Sydney before the public announcement of his positive tests. To ad to that I recall that in one interview that C.J. had said that the only reason he was competing was because Marion was.

Re: t-and-f: YES ALL ELITE ARE ON DRUGS

Netters Ben Hall writes: In response too mantis: > That is an idiotic statement. Mantis wrote: > > The question is Do you have to take the drugs to be an elite athlete? You would think that some people might learn... but Ben Hall Came to the same conclusion I already have... My wife is e

t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping

Netters I recently made a really bad analogy. No i don't equate cocaine and epo as easily acssible. I was just trying to point out that saying some country or that individual is too poor to buy drugs can not be used as a blanket defense. That is all.

t-and-f: Just Say Yes!

Netters JP wrote: > Well the truth is he was going to walk back but we all know GH's disdain > for the >walks. He couldn't walk back. Wrong initials the ones needed for that are JC.

t-and-f: short note

Netter just a quick note here: Winner of the Great lakes D2 Regional 1 Amber Antonia JR 732 University of Wisconsin-Parkside 21:54.0 Also 11th in the Olympic Trials in the 20k Walk in only her 3rd walking race and on less then 100 miles walking. Some good kung-fu going on there!

Re: t-and-f: Re: Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?

Netters Edward Nigma? Ed my apologies for being a bone head and really this is only because so many other bone heads come on with fake yahoo accounts. But have you ever noticed when you say Edward Nigma it comes out sort of close to enigma? Sorry.

Re: t-and-f: Doug Schneebeck deserves our vote

Netters While I don't really care why Mr. Schneebeck should be Masters Chair, I do wonder why/what he means by his comments about gathering more money from USATF? Why would USATF give money to Masters when we have Olympians in open event absolutely struggling? I have heard one or two masters ra

Re: t-and-f: Doug Schneebeck deserves our vote

Netters Louise asked: > the point is guys, that USATF should be funding, in some way, all >levels of >athletes...read what the initials represent,slowly But in what ways and why? For putting on the meet? ok, a little. Why because the majority of the athletes are masters and that is who a

t-and-f: masters to funding

Netters Ryan wrote: >That would be really swell...funding for all levels...but can I ask WHY? >WHY does >anybody need or deserve funding? Sure it would be nice, and its >nice when you get >it, but nothing is a birthright. The answer to the why is because that is what is said is going to be d

Re: t-and-f: Doug Schneebeck deserves our vote

Netters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Actually I think it would be a great idea. Mantis And what exactly is that you think would be a good idea?

Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

Netters Wayne writes: >Of course, some of you still take 1600 m splits. (1600 doesn't divide >into integer >kilometer distances very well either). Being one of those who uses the 1600 split in training, I will try to explain the irrational.:) I came into track just after the transition to th

t-and-f: IAAF Athletes of the Year announced

Netters I demand a recount! ...don't think i need to say much else but let's face Jan's achievments pale in comparison to R.K.'s The only male double gold medalist, olympic record setter, undefeated at the olympic distances one loss at 5k.

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker Finalists Performances'

Netters I have to tell you that kid from Michigan that won the mid west has got to be incredible. He ran 14:35 on a muddy day on the parkside cousre, one of the hardest 5k courses around. Mike Dewitt said that thing ran slow and he and Lucian Rosa both agreed that would have been a sub 14:00 on

Re: t-and-f: Fwd: IAAF Athletes of the Year announced

Netters, A few issues to deal with. Andrew Mcdonagh wrote: >I am not saying your walker might not have deserved it more this year, That is the point Andrew. The award is about achievment this year not career. Career achievements are not germane to this issue/ >He is well respected among all t

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker Regionals QUESTION

Mcewen, Brian T writes: > Maybe a coach or former athlete can answer this question. Brian I have an idea or two on these issues. > Isn't the opening 1k just a bloodbath ... that possibly could knock down > or spike >runners who have a good chance of qualifying? > How does any course accommo

Re: t-and-f: SoBe it: USATF toasts creatine drink

Netters Ken wrote: > 1. SoBe's line of fruit-flavoured, herb-spiked drinks includes ones with creatine as an ingredient. Ken I am not exactly sure what point you are trying to make but FYI Sobee has less creatine in it then the fish you ate last Friday. Don't buy into this creatine as a perfor

t-and-f: Creatin - was SoBee IT!

Netters Randall Northam asked: > I have been told that Creatine is also used as a masking agent as well as a > muscle boosting agent. Is that wrong as well? In a word. Yes. Creatine would not be a masking agent. Someone was watching to much X-Files. :) Good Training, Michael Rohl

RE: t-and-f: Re: German women + records

Netters Brian wrote: > Wouldn't the EGR men have had the same excellent coaches and physios? He > wasn't asking why the German women were so good but why there were not > similar astounding, long-lasting WR's run by East German men. A side note here. There were some incredible coaches on

t-and-f: interesting article on the changes in the walks

From Active.com/walking: Dave McGovern analyzes racewalking's bad image, impending solutions By Dave McGovern Active.com  > Stu Forster/Allsport Peter Korzeniowski won the 20K and 50K gold medals in Sydney. >From a racewalker's perspective, the recent Olympic walks were among the most exciting

Re: t-and-f: interesting article on changes in the walks

Netters, P. N. Heidenstrom writes: > Q1 - undoubtedly. At the Sydney Olympics at least the first > 18 finishers in the 50k were breaking contact at every stride > coming into the stadium. This is not true. >That was not apparent to the judges, but why not is puzzling: loss of >contact is >c

Re: t-and-f: scheduling US nationals

Netters Recently I have been appointed to Chair the Site Selection Committee for racewalking. As such I have to review bids and try to recruit potential hosts. In the walks, often it is the host that selects the date. I don't know if that happens with the T&F com. but it might have something t

Re: t-and-f: Morceli, El Guerrouj and pacing - best runner or kicker

Netters Geoff Pietsch writes: > Yes, the pacing in major championships seems troubling, BUT should World > and Olympic Champions only be those who have the best kick? El G clearly is > the fastest 1500 runner in the world right now. Isn't he a more deserving > World Champion than a 3:31

Re: t-and-f: RE: t-and-f: El G's pace in Zürich

Netters This statement: > I believe Edmonton's altitude is about 2100 feet, not 1200. This is true and is equal to the Highest Point in WIsconsin, Known as Tim's Hill. There is NO effect on performance in either the sprints or distances at 2000 feet. The Air pressure is essentialy the same. C

Re: t-and-f: Altitude correction... opinion stands...

Netters Ed & Dana Parrot writes: > However, if a physical adaptation DOES occur, then it stands to reason >that even >with adaptation the times will be slower for distance runners. There is no biological impetus for acclimatization to occur. Nor is a week enough time for one to occur. Altitu

Re: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated

Netters Gerald wrote - incorrectly: > As for Steve Scott, he ran great when it was not a major meet, but did > nothing in the Olympics or World's."Great" athletes perform in "All" > meets unless they are sick or injured! Steve was not injured in those meets> and >still did not perform. He

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Netters Michael Contopoulos writes: > American's start running too late. We need to get our kids out there and > running at 6 years old. You wouldn't think twice shoving your kid off to > soccer practice, giving him tennis lessons, or signing him up for little > league... Yes, I would thi

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Michael Contopoulos writes: > I ask you why? Because the injury rates are higher and the risk of never being able to compete later is higher and because the succsess rate is so low. To be clear for every one kid that is good at 15 there are thousands who lie in a waste land of burnout and inju

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

alan tobin writes: > That is precisely the reason why Kenya has so many good runners because they > have thousands more who burnout or get injuried. At a young age they train, > train, train and those who make it go on to greatness and those who don't > lay burned out or injuried on the sideli

t-and-f: Puking

Netters On the issue of puking after workouts. Michelle reminds me that we all had to eat school lunch. Which may be the best explanation yet. Mike Rohl Asst. Coach Sprints & Jumps Mansfield University

Re: t-and-f: walkers 10k times

Netters Sean asked: > Would it be possible for the walkers on the list to > post their 10k (running ) prs. Also their 1/2 > Marathon, and Marathon times. > Might open a few eyes. Michelle Rohl ran 4:20 1500 16:40 5k. lost to only Leah Pells her senior year at NAIA's. She ran 2:48 and 1:18 half

Re: t-and-f: /Wish list

Netters Randall wrote: > I take it your name is not Malmo and you're hiding behind it! If you don't know who Malmo is by now then you don't deserve to know. Admittedly I didn't know it either until he sent me his bio then I did the research. And as far as the Goat goes what more do you want

t-and-f: Rulon Gardner

Netters DGS wrote > The point is valid and just because you read about it and heard about it, > does not mean it was international news. Darrell, it was huge news around the world. It was utterly incredible. I watched on close circuit TV in the village with Lance Deal, the two Adam Shot p

Re: t-and-f: ATHLETICS WEEKLY Athletes of the Year

Netters What can I say? > The British publication Athletics Weekly has named Robert Korzeniowski and > Marion Jones as Athletes of the Year. :)

Re: t-and-f: PS

Netters John Molavar, whom I have come to expect more of. asked > Which is easier? > a) buying illegal drugs > b) finding in person, ANYONE involved in > Greco-Roman wrestling? B me. I participated in a Greco-Roman match in high school. In fact, the one thing that I and the before mentioned

Re: t-and-f: Coaching selections.

Netters In response to Ed's...thoughts I would like to point out a few things: > Women: > JJ Clark - Head Coach Besides being a University coach himself he happened to have coached 3 Olympians. I would think he is quite credible. > Chandra Cheeseborough - Asst. coach Chandra is and experien

t-and-f: a little info on lactate analyzers

Netters Just came across this. Incase anyone might be interested the prices are coming way down on these things. http://www.lactate.com/prices.html

Re: t-and-f: Coaching selections.

Netters Nick wrote: > Kelly Sullivan after Auburn moved back > to Oregon and now is the head coach at a D3 school there whose name escapes > me at this time? That would be Willamette, damn it :) Thats how they say it there.

RE: t-and-f: walkers 10k times

Netters brian wrote: > The guy in question is Werner Schildhauer, who developed at the same time as > Hansorg Kunze. Both were 5k/10k guys and I recall something about him > (Schildhauer) being a former racewalker. Brian thanks for that great info on Werner what a solid track career he had - I

Re: t-and-f: Coaching selections.

Netters S.devereaux wrote: > Why even have national team coaches other than to choose who runs on the relays? > It's not like any athletes other than their own are going to be itching to get > advice from them. Because some events need to have a coach on hand or because some athletes coaches c

Re: t-and-f: DGS vs RNORTHAM

Netters Mike F. wrote: > I'm thinkin that this battle is a mere skirmish...child's play in comparison > to last year's Rohl vs Fanelli! Well at least we were fairly evenly matched!

t-and-f: walk talk

Netters A few days ago someone asked (Conway?) for reports on track events. So here is a report on the walks for the U.S. this year. First, the majority of the walkers are back at the ARCO Center and my friend Ray Kules is now the USATF Coach there. Enrique Penna is contracted through the ne

t-and-f: littluns' in track was -Why the lack of improvement

Netters Bruce wrote: > From this perspective, the world championships for youth is a bad idea. As is a National Championship for little kidds as in ages 10 and under. One of the many misguided things the USATF Youth Committee tried to do was add a National level to sub bantams. Not only shou

Re: t-and-f: Why the lack of improvement

Netters Dan asked: > Is this evident in any group other than male sprinters? yes Distance runners. In 83 there was Miles Irish, Mike Starr and John Carrolitti all sub 4:10 milers in H.S. Of the group the only one to make to the 88 and 92 trials was Charles Marsella a guy who was second to

Re: t-and-f: Why the lack of improvement

Netters Dan wrote: > Somehow I don't think 4:10 milers belong in the same conversation as 45 > second 400 runners. One could argue that any 4:10 type belongs among the > second tier group -- not the group the original question was inquiring > about. True Dan. I don't disagree at all. But the

RE: t-and-f: Why the lack of improvement

Netter Brian wrote: > Paul Thomas said that College was over before he realized he had "pissed > away" (his words) a lot of good years. > I know Paul Tomas too. I met him when I worked at PR Bar. He said the same thing to me out at a bar:). Thing about Paul is that while a great runner he

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

Netters Mike Platt wrote: > Wrong! Three times. > 1) Clubs are very existent and are all over the country. > 2) And the club championships were instituted many years before this year. > 3) The club system or lack thereof is not THE problem with T&F. Mike would you then please enlighten me as to

Re: t-and-f: Re: Clubs

Netters Wayne wrote: > Why are these types of clubs and athletes so rare now? One reason for > the paucity of clubs may be ironically, the Amateur Sports Act of 1978. I can see how this had an effect on clubs. But I am wondering how much the road racing boom hurt the club track & field progr

Re: t-and-f: 400H

Netters Louise wrote: - we ran the 400h while the boys of the > state were doing the 300mh.. Louise, not to get on your case to much but I distinctly remember running the 400h as a freshman at Averill Park H.S. , Averill park N.Y. in 1980. Of course the next year I learned to walk but that i

Re: t-and-f: The storm by the numbers

netters Allen wrote" > Don't even try to top me Mr. Rohl because I'm on one now. Why would I try Allen? You can only educate the ignorant so much. Then you must let them rot in their own dung and live with the consequences of their own choices.

t-and-f: Tom jordan's e-mail

Netters Sorry to bother the whole list but does anyone have Tom's email or if Tom is still on could you contact me. Thanks.

RE: t-and-f: 400H

Netters Brian wrote: > There are bigger development issues. Yes. like for instance having the walk in H.S. and College. before any naysayers jump up and down, remember I learned to walk in H.S. in New York. Thanks in part to people like Louise and other rational people. I was a respected

Re: t-and-f: A narrow view for some (looong)

Netters I hope many of you have noted my general lack of comment on the rankings - except one. Really I just didn't feel like arguing over it - others, and non walkers I might add, have said plenty, but I would like to correct one comment that Ed Parrot made and I think it might apply to some

t-and-f: RK's Season

Netters below is RK's season record I think I had seen two other races not listed here but what you have is 11 wins 12 losses over 5, 10, 20 and 50k. his only loss was to two russians at 10k one of whom was last years world champ the other was in the top 5 at the games. It is especially note wort

t-and-f: rankings

netters Here is something for you to all ponder. As I plan my season here are the priorities I have. 1 Placing well at the National Championships 20 and 50k for me 2 Head to head - beating as many guys as I can at any distance 3 Finding a place where I can go as fast as I possibly can - Gett

Re: t-and-f: RK's Season

Netters Ryan, normally witty, and informed came up with this one liner: >So, I say do the apples to apples thing, in which case there are >lots of 18-19 minute 5k folks (men and women) > who are not world ranked, so the RK fella should be thankful. Ryan, by the light, I hope you are joking b

t-and-f: Re: Not Kidding, and more contrived event ideas...

Ryan, Et tu Brutus?

RE: t-and-f: rankings

Netters Brian wrote: > So, unless I did not remember the ranking criteria correctly ... they align > exactly with the priorities YOU have as an athlete ... and the ones that > most world class athletes probably have. Exactly Brian. I knew what the criteria were when I wrote that. I was tring

Re: t-and-f: Racewalking MumboJumbo

Netters Kurt wrote: > But wait a minute, maybe we could revise our thinking and consider the > hurdles a fundamentally DIFFERENT EVENT from the sprints and not worry about > direct comparisons. > And come to think of it, if we really wanted an intellectual challenge, we > could do that with

Re: t-and-f: how far the women's vault has come

Netters Gary wrote: > Nonetheless, the men's vault will be the curtain lifter, starting off the > evening, with the women's event slated for the prime time window. yes indeed and of all things the walk goes off at 7:25 pm - prime time while not gold and silver medalist it will feature at least

Re: t-and-f: Racewalking MumboJumbo

netters Ed Prytherch wrote: > But if you racewalk as fast as you can, you turn into a runner. This is not true at all but then I suppose when dealing with the same intellectual and emotional mind sets that produced such lovely concepts as racism, bigotry, anti semitism, sexual discrimination,

t-and-f: THE BOARDS!

Netters jim observed: > To those who think RWing is contrived on a 400 oval or the roads, watch it on > a steeply banked 11-lap try like MSG's. Gravity seems to be winning over > momentum. Indeed Jim excellent observation. Milrose is a special event for walkers as it is for many other events.

t-and-f: relay third leg man

Netters Darrell wrote: > International > JD > Maurice > Ato > Carl Though it would be an All-American Relay I think that if I were going to put anyone on the third leg of a relay it would be michael johnson. I'd try to have him get the baton as early as possible and hold it as late as safety

Re: t-and-f: Alan Webb misses 1000m record by 0.28

Netters Thanks John Dye for this > Webb's performance fits in behind > the record of 2:23.85c (George Kersh MS 1987) and 2:242.1d (Miles Irish NY > 1983). Interesting we were just talking about the top guys in H.S. being out performed later by other athletes. In that thread i talked about Mi

t-and-f: small world

Netters Here is an interesting thing. Gary wrote: > Mike I was at that NY state meet competing int he > 1600m the year Irish pulled that double. Folks this is another example of a small world. I have met Gary at USATF Nationals and exchanged e-mails many of times but did either of us

t-and-f: Coaching 101 and a Neiamiah story

Netters, Slow night here and I thought some might like these bits. Working with my vaulters this week. Had them doing start-press-curls. I have all 8 of them lined up and I am carefully watching for a good straight arm over the ear. I am going down the line and I see Chris, a senior, with b

t-and-f: more on Miles and high school shaningans

Netters Gary relayed that Miles Irish's quip on why he did the 600 and the 3200 in the sam meet was "why not." There is more to it than that. First, Miles had lost at the milrose mile to Stahr and he wanted to win a state title but he was unsure of his ability at two mile. You see he had

Re: t-and-f: Millrose Games Info

Walt And did that the fact that 3 more Olympians will be competing at 7:25pm - in the middle of the elite portion, in the Susan B. Rudin Mile Walk? Or did that just get forgotten?

t-and-f: Milrose Walk

Netters Sorry just One olympian here: Curt Clausen New York A.C. Walk two tim Olympian - past winner Sean Albert New Jersey Striders Walk Michael Rohl New Balance Walk Al Heffner U.S. Army Walk Gregory Dawson Walk USA Walk Robert Williams Farmingdale State University Walk Ben Shorey Ellswo

Re: t-and-f: Millrose Games Info

Netters MJR wrote > Don't jump on Walt on this one, its not his fault. Blame Indy for the > miscue. My apologies to Walt. I didn't really mean to jump on him and lord knows I am grateful for all he does and his Indoor compilation saved Michelle and I a great deal of work. I was trying to

Re: t-and-f: Dragila series

Netters A note from a novice vault coach on Stacy's jumps. As she came in on the first miss she was under to far/over her step. As she lined up i saw her stop and really get the crowd pumped up. As she did this i said to myself "she is going to come down this too fast ans isn't focused on

Re: t-and-f: that "amateur" thing

Netters LRN wrote: > After all, are not all walkers "rank amateurs" in athletics? oh brother!

t-and-f: here's a wild thought...

netters Gary asked: >Regardless of where he runs it, is Ritz a serious threat to the Linddgren >13:44.0? I think so. His 14:40 or what ever it was at the University of Wisconsin Parkside course indicates that he would be close. Typically that course is a minute off of a track times and that

t-and-f: update on Michelle's switch

Netters A few folks expressed interest in keeping up with Michelle's switch back to running from racewalking.This is a transition year for her and her single goal is qualify for the outdoor 10k in Eugene. Thus becoming the first racewalker to compete in a running event at the U.S. Champio

t-and-f: Measurements, indoors, XC, amateurism & teams

Netters, Darrell wrote in reference to the proposition that one reason track is not popular in the U.S. is because of the use of the metric system in field events: "How many people have to tell you that it is not true before you get the point?" Darrell is right. Using the metric syst

Re: t-and-f: water vs coke

Netters Ed wrote: > That said, many ultrarunners (even some of the good ones) swear by defizzed > coke during a race of 50 miles or longer. It seems clear that both the > sugar and the caffeine could be helpful, Having done those 4 hour 50ks myself nothing works better then defizzed coke

Re: t-and-f: `Real' cheats prosper claims drugs chief

Netters Ed wrote: > The scientific basis for the ban should be irrelevant - it is a rule and we > shouldn't have to justify rules. No Ed not here. The vigilant free society does need to justify its rules.

Re: t-and-f: Indoor Tracks - How much slower?

Netters Wayne wrote: > I think you have nailed it with the King Kong problem. A big guy will > have > more problem with the extra weight than a small guy. It is related to > the fact > that strength will increase as height squared but mass increases as > height > cubed. I use the king kong probl

Re: t-and-f: IAAF threat to expel US federation

Netters I think we should remember that it would be absolutely unconstitunal for the IAAF to form a new governing body here in the U.S. and any athlete joining that new group would be subject to penalty under the law. No foreign government or entity may enforce law in our country with out the

Re: t-and-f: Creating Good Distance runners in the US

Netters Louis wrote: > As you are suggesting that tough conditions produce better > runners, how come we haven't seen a large number of successes from someplace > like Texas? Because you have to be able to run first. And then survive the guys in the pick up trucks, then out run their gun ra

Re: t-and-f: Preparing better Distance Runners & Sprinters

Netters Everything Steve wrote about is correct. If you coach, save it, that is good stuff. I have been doing that stuff for years and that is why my technique is the way it is.

Re: t-and-f: FW: Shot put champions banned for life

Netters And this is our athlete of the year? give me a break.

Re: t-and-f: New rules

Netters Ed wrote > PS: I cannot agree that all false starts are "unsportsmanlike > conduct." Certainly there have been runners, past and present, who > have used them in a suspicious manner, but there are ceratinly times > when nervousness (yes, even in experience

RE: t-and-f: FW: Shot put champions banned for life

Netters Ben and Bob wrote: > Virgilijus Alekna, T&FN AOY, is a discus thrower and NOT a shot putter and > he has not incurred a drug ban. > > So no Bagach is not the AOY. In fact, he wasn't in the top 15 vote getters. Sorry folks it was late and I wasn't thinking straight. But to make up for

RE: t-and-f: "Unsportmanlike conduct" LOL

Netters Brian Wrote: > After reading this I get the feeling that [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and [EMAIL PROTECTED] might > really be the same clown ... err, I mean person. No, that is really Jon's adress I have it from another source.

t-and-f: what is in sponsorship was new rule

Netters I am not sure who wrote this: > >Get serious, our "big shoe deals, appearance fees, and > >endorsements contracts are based on performance, > >not fan participation. This is plain wrong. Certainly performance matters but you just ask John Capriotti what is more important to him a gold m

t-and-f: why track is un popular was New rules

Netters Jon wrote: "No! YOU HAVE NO CLUE!! THERE WILL NEVER BE A DAY WHEN FANS DON'T SHOW UP TO A TRACK MEET!!! PERIOD!! " I am sorry Jon you are not correct here. Fans not showing up is already happening(Milrose this year). BUT it is not because of false starts nor do I think tha

Re: t-and-f: what is in sponsorship was new rule

Netters Jon wrote: > Now I've heard it all! >Let's get this straight, John Capriotti is more concerned about other > criteria more than a gold medal? LOL You may laugh if you want Jon but that is exactly what he said in meeting between USATF sponsors and athletes at the convention.

Re: t-and-f: what is in sponsorship was new rule

Netters Kurt Bray wrote: > And we will probably look back and wonder what all the fuss was about. You know, I was just thinking the same thing about this thread. Even though I participated now I wish I hadn't. The whole thing was wasted breath.

RE: t-and-f: New rules

Netters Brian wrote: > It was a JOKE, Conway. Since I am apparently the only evil-incarnate on the > list I was making a little joke. Having been known at one time or another as "THE RACEWALKER FROM HELL" I can assure you all that Brian is not evil incarnate. (No I am not making that up

Re: t-and-f: accounting for freaks (was: X-Men (was: Reaction Time

Netters Gary Hill wrote: > Or anticipating a hematocrit rule similar to cycling's 49%, find > > somebody who busts that, get them set as the standard. Cycling's hematocrit level is 49? I thought it was higher than that. Heck mine is 48 hanging around the mountain here. BTW My hemoglobin h

Re: t-and-f: "Unsportmanlike conduct" LOL

Netters Darrell wrote: > The good thing is that the sprinters know this, > and it enables them to tolerate the ignorance that comes from the peanut > gallery. Oh now isn't that a nice statement! :) Let them eat cake! "scratch a liberal and you know what you find under his skin? An aris

Re: t-and-f: DI Regional Qualifying Discussion

Netters > Question: Which meet consistently draws greater attendance: the > California State Meet or the NCAA? OR add an US Championships. Not only does CA have regional Qualifying but TEAMS as well. I am telling you folks team competition is the way to draw folks back in. Spoiled supers

Re: t-and-f: I suggest

> 1. The first 2 false starts will be charged to the field. If both are done > by the same person he/she will be DQ'ed. After the 2 false starts to the > field have been used(including the DQ of the person who false started > twice), anyone who false starts after this will be DQ'ed. I think it's

t-and-f: Epilogue - pesecuted?

Netters Darrell wrote: > Too many have nasty, personal attacks on sprint oriented listers... I beg to differ I read all of Conway's and Justin Clouder"s posts on sprints I see few if any personal attacks on them or their posts. I do, however, see you Darrell argue with them over things that I

Re: t-and-f: What's next?

Netters Louise ( the mean mutha:) wrote: > yeah...but no one except the sprinters/hurdlers are getting BOOTED OUT OF > THE COMPETITION..mean motha Join the world of the walks baby!

Re: t-and-f: Epilogue

Netters Louise wrote: however in the great > council of the iaaf, who votes - (oh yeah, it's a democtatic process) NOT > THE ATHLETES...the fat, lobster-eating old men. This is true and I absolutely agree with this point which was made by Darrell. The athletes have no control or re

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