Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Am Mi., 20. Nov. 2019 um 06:56 Uhr schrieb Jorge Aguirre < jorge.agui...@kaart.com>: > I had been out for the last few weeks and had left this proposal in > standby. I am back now and have revised and updated the original proposal > and included some images as examples, so hopefully it is all

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

I had been out for the last few weeks and had left this proposal in standby. I am back now and have revised and updated the original proposal and included some images as examples, so hopefully it is all more clear now and better explained, so everyone understands just how important this new

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Am Mi., 2. Okt. 2019 um 22:55 Uhr schrieb Agustin Rissoli < aguztin...@gmail.com>: > I think we can add a clarification, which says that these directions are > not exact, but usually based on the approximate position with respect to a > milestone on the road. > Actually I have 2 different cases

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Re: “On standard [OpenStreetMap-]carto (and probably most others) highway=milestone doesn't render.” There is an open issue and some rendering ideas from a year back: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3605 If anyone wants to help get historic=milestone rendered, they

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone' Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 18:59, Agustin Rissoli wrote: > > > > Perfect! That is exactly what happens in real life when someone is > seeking an add

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 18:59, Agustin Rissoli wrote: > > > > Perfect! That is exactly what happens in real life when someone is > seeking an address based on location markers once the precision of the > distance used in addresses is low. > > This description should be in the eventual wiki > You

[Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Jorge, I think we should change the name of the tag to addr:road_marker or another, as many are not interested in milestone not being the correct name, nor should they care that it does not match highway=milestone, it is a lesser evil. > Think of the ‘milestone’ as a point of reference. The

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 14:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: this is also a milestone in OSM: historic=milestone > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmilestone > There aren't that many milestones (made of stone, marked in miles) around here but all of those I'm aware of are historic

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Am Mi., 2. Okt. 2019 um 13:33 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. That's how we end up with bad tags. Like > highway=milestone. > Outside of OSM, a milestone is a stone with a distance in miles marked > upon it. Outside > of OSM, this is a milestone: >

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 13:26, santamariense wrote: > > > that you should not use the term "milestone" but something like > > addr:distance or > > addr:road_marker or whatever, because there are no milestones > > addr:road_marker seems to be appropriated Or something with similar meaning.

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

> which coincidentally can match (or not match) the distance Well noted. The reference to a location marker used in an address rarely gives the exact distance. It is an approximated value with low precision, unlike the tag distance=* that is used with highway=milestone that is supposed to mark

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Aguirre wrote: > > In all fairness, I think it should not be as difficult to find a good way > to facilitate entering a complementary address tag, one that is very much > needed in our part of the world - one which applies to and needed in most > of the world

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Greetings my fellow OSM colleagues. In all fairness, I think it should not be as difficult to find a good way to facilitate entering a complementary address tag, one that is very much needed in our part of the world - one which applies to and needed in most of the world actually. This has

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Yes, we call them "mile markers" in my part of Oregon/Northern California too, like "the wildfire started on the north side of Highway 96 at mile marker 23" - but houses and other structures have addresses with house numbers. On 10/2/19, Dave Swarthout wrote: > The "milestone" value is a

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

The "milestone" value is a misnomer in most modern situations. Here in Thailand, many roads have actual mile markers, er kilometer markers, but they are not made of stone. They are painted concrete. In the U.S. there are very few of these if any. When I'm tagging mile markers in the U.S., I

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

> I think we're close to hitting the record for how misleading a tag name can > be. Maybe. > This is a proposal for a tag addr:milestone to allow us to specify a > distance in kilometres > (not miles), of a house (not a milestone) and the nearest milestone isn't a > stone but a sign. It could

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Il giorno mar, 01/10/2019 alle 23.09 +0200, Tobias Zwick ha scritto: > Milestones are not necessarily located at the true distance of A to > B. Not sure why this is the case, but I know that this is true for at > least Thailand. > On 01/10/2019 21:10, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:11, Mark Wagner wrote: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:01:06 +0200 > Colin Smale wrote: > Instead, linear position gets turned into a house number. For example, a > building > eight and a half miles from the start of Long Road might be "850 > Long Road". > That's why I asked

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Milestones are not necessarily located at the true distance of A to B. Not sure why this is the case, but I know that this is true for at least Thailand. On 01/10/2019 21:10, Paul Allen wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 19:40, Jorge Aguirre > wrote: > > The

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 19:40, Jorge Aguirre wrote: The addresses that utilize ‘Km’ as part of the actual address are always > related to a specific 'highway:milestone’ on that particular highway. For > instance, the address for the Hilton Guatemala Vista Real Hotel in > Guatemala - as it appears

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

xes? (Kevin Kenny) > 4. Re: Strange tags (Paul Allen) > 5. Re: Strange tags (Martin Koppenhoefer) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 14:06:48 +0100 > From: Paul Allen > To: &qu

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

What I'm unclear on is if these addresses refer to an actual road marker, or an actual distance based upon interpolation between actual road markers. If you have a road marker at 8km and another road marker at 9km, would a house between the two have addr:milestone 8, 9 or 8.5? If the address is

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 13:34, santamariense wrote: > > I am not sure about to keep "Km". It might be understandable by the > key 'addr:milestone' itself. It might. OSM uses highway=milestone to mean a road marker in general, rather than a traditional milestone (which was a stone with distances

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

This tag only comes to give a standard to something that already is being mapped off the cuff. When you search by "KM" in https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr:housenumber#values you will find 2758 addr:housenumber that contains "KM" as part of their values. Such information can be even

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:01:06 +0200 Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-10-01 08:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > Hi Jorge, > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 08:15:37PM -0600, Jorge Aguirre wrote: > > > >> Throughouthe entire Latin American region and some other parts of > >> the world, it is quite

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

> I may be mistaken but I seem to remember mile markers being used in rural areas of the USA to indicate linear position along a main road. You are not mistaken. Many hotels and parks in the rural areas of Alaska mark their location that way. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:06 PM Colin Smale wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

sent from a phone > On 1. Oct 2019, at 08:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > We have such addresses in Germany too. In Italy you can find them as well, they are not uncommon for properties along through roads outside of settlements and for highway rest areas. Currently I’m either using

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On 2019-10-01 08:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi Jorge, > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 08:15:37PM -0600, Jorge Aguirre wrote: > >> Throughouthe entire Latin American region and some other parts of >> the world, it is quite common to find the kilometer (Km.) information, >> as may be found on the

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Hi Jorge, On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 08:15:37PM -0600, Jorge Aguirre wrote: > Throughout the entire Latin American region and some other parts of > the world, it is quite common to find the kilometer (Km.) information, > as may be found on the “highway:milestone”, as part of the actual > addresses.

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Could you please give us an example photo, Jorge? Thanks Graeme On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 12:18, Jorge Aguirre wrote: > Throughout the entire Latin American region and some other parts of the > world, it is quite common to find the kilometer (Km.) information, as may > be found on the

[Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Throughout the entire Latin American region and some other parts of the world, it is quite common to find the kilometer (Km.) information, as may be found on the “highway:milestone”, as part of the actual addresses. Mostly used in suburban and rural areas, which may usually not even have any