Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

> Sorry, I was thinking of gas as a product (as in natural gas), not a state of matter. Confusing, so I proposed natural_gas for natural gas. > I was thinking of substance=* as a category (water, fuel, oil, gas, coolant, etc etc I think we need (as often as possible) to tag separately nature and

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

> On Jan 30, 2015, at 6:51 PM, althio wrote: > > John Willis wrote: > >> Substance=gas >> Substance:detailed:multiphase_gas >> Substance:state=multi > > That is not coherent. Do you mean that (substance=gas) is for mainly > gas or gas-only? > If it is gas only (substance=gas), it can be multi

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

John Willis wrote: > Substance=gas > Substance:detailed:multiphase_gas > Substance:state=multi That is not coherent. Do you mean that (substance=gas) is for mainly gas or gas-only? If it is gas only (substance=gas), it can be multiple gaseous products. But it is not multiphase. And then state=ga

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Is there some decision on helping it all in one tag - Btw - isn't it states of matter? Substance:state= solid liquid gas (plasma?) multi would a pneumatic garbage pipe be gas or solid, since it moves solid stuff (and implies pneumatic or such ?) Substance=gas Substance:detailed:multiphase_ga

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On 28/01/2015 10:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: if you want the "liquid" information, use aggregate_state=liquid IMHO for pipelines it would be more interesting to tag the pressure and the inner diameter of the tube. Agreed in part. If 'we' tag what we see at the site .. then the pipe

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On 29 January 2015 at 22:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 30/01/2015 5:07 AM, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to repeat once again that "substance" doesn't seem to be a nice >>> key descriptor for values like ... >> content ... too static >> medium ... too spooky >> product

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On 29/01/2015 3:41 PM, johnw wrote: substance=fuel substance:detailed=drinking_water isn't it just as error prone as substance=fuel fuel=drinking_water ? As the error is on one line it is easier for a human to pick up, either as it is made or on checking. An error that is a relation b

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On 30/01/2015 5:07 AM, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: I'd like to repeat once again that "substance" doesn't seem to be a nice key descriptor for values like ... during the draft stage, I (we) couldn't come up with an expression that covered everything that might one day be transported in a pipeline.

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

> and what exactly is a neutron bean? correction: should read "neutron beam" ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Throwing out my ideas... Disclaimer: These are generic proposals for pipeline sub-tagging with example values for illustration. I do not want to derail this towards water/drinking_water and multi-values (semicolon or namespaced). ;) I propose 3 keys: use/purpose (as main subtag), state/phase and

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: > during the draft stage, I (we) couldn't come up with an expression that > covered everything that might one day be transported in a pipeline. "fluid"? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

> I'd like to repeat once again that "substance" doesn't seem to be a nice > key descriptor for values like ... during the draft stage, I (we) couldn't come up with an expression that covered everything that might one day be transported in a pipeline. content ... too static medium ... too spooky

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Am 29.01.2015 um 10:59 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2015-01-29 5:41 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: > >> if this is the proper term used for pipelines, then this would be >> the right one, >> >> Otherwise, =multi (like sports) would be the best. >> >> but you would not need such a tag,

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-29 5:41 GMT+01:00 johnw : > if this is the proper term used for pipelines, then this would be the > right one, > > Otherwise, =multi (like sports) would be the best. > > but you would not need such a tag, since it would be > > substance=gas > substance:detailed=multiphase_gas > > if you ke

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh.. 'multiphase' is a mixture of gas, fuel and water as it comes out of some > well heads if this is the proper term used for pipelines, then this would be the right one, Otherwise, =multi (like sports) would be the b

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

hi, first, I wouldn't use the value of substance=* as key for the detailed level, because in this case we would introduce a new key (i.e. fuel=) whenever a new substance is introduced (i.e. substance=fuel). second, I'd stick with two levels (general, detailed), otherwise we'd eventually end u

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-28 13:06 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse : > "grey water" has a specific meaning (waste water that isn't sewage and can > be further used for e.g. irrigation). If that's what you mean - great. If > you just mean water that you can't drink, then just use something that > describes it, like "water".

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On 28/01/2015 11:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-01-28 8:48 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >: Unfortunately this does not have a tag for non drinking water .. possible values could be non-potable_water grey_water I like grey_water

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-28 12:01 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > So for natural gas worked out to that basic level, as one example, that > would be > substance = gas > gas=fuel > fuel=natural_gas > I believe this is pointlessly complicated and semantically incorrect, why not tag: substance=natural_

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-28 8:48 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > Unfortunately this does not have a tag for non drinking water .. possible > values could be > > non-potable_water > > grey_water > I like grey_water > > According to taginfo the values in decreasing use are water (30%), gas, > heat, s

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On 28/01/2015 8:41 PM, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: Hello Warin, Wednesday, January 28, 2015, 8:48:16 AM, you wrote: W> Request For Discussion W> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:substance thanks for picking up thus topic. I have to leave in a few minutes for a 6 week assignment, therefore o

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Hello Warin, Wednesday, January 28, 2015, 8:48:16 AM, you wrote: W> Request For Discussion W> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:substance thanks for picking up thus topic. I have to leave in a few minutes for a 6 week assignment, therefore only just a few words: - my intention & impression

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

On 28/01/2015 6:53 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote: Hi! 2015-01-28 8:48 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >: I note that"if the medium of a pipeline you are tagging is not listed here, please choose a meaningful value at your own discretion."However tha

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Hi! 2015-01-28 8:48 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > I note that"if the medium of a pipeline you are tagging is not listed > here, please choose a meaningful value at your own discretion."However that > will lead to multiple values all meaning the same thing or be too > restrictive. >

[Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Request For Discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:substance Pipe lines currently exist for non drinking water in various part of the world. And have done for some time. They are becoming more numerous as efforts to save water and reduce environmental impacts increase. Unfortunate