Re: Just info re windows 10

2016-06-17 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
I just got my new computer running windows 10. I unchecked the checkbox and It still asks for a password. -Original Message- From: net bat Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:21 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Just info re windows 10 no. you would still

Re: OK, OK, and now for a reality check!

2016-06-17 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
Thank you Ray! I hear you brother! RJ On 6/17/2016 11:11 PM, Ray Campbell via Talk wrote: Hi All: Let’s all take a deep breath and a bottle of chill pills, people. Before you all continue spouting off that the end of the world is coming, take a look at the VFO Website, www.vfo-group.com

OK, OK, and now for a reality check!

2016-06-17 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Hi All: Let’s all take a deep breath and a bottle of chill pills, people. Before you all continue spouting off that the end of the world is coming, take a look at the VFO Website, www.vfo-group.com . Here’s what you’ll see. The companies, Freedom Scientific,

RE: Please, enough already

2016-06-17 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Thank you, Robert. The buy-out's done, there's nothing any of us can do about it except make sure that the leadership of VFO hears our concerns as loyal Window-Eyes users. Let's return this list to its intended purpose, to help people with Window-Eyes issues. Ray Campbell

Re: action by DOJ

2016-06-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
How does that change anything? On 6/17/2016 5:08 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: Isn't it a possibility that AI-SQUARED agreed to this, were not "taken over," but aligned their purpose with them? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email

Re: Please, enough already

2016-06-17 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
And we wonder why sighted people do not take the blind community seriously? It's because of crap like this! RJ On 6/17/2016 7:21 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: Enough also, quit whinning. What will be will be. -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:44

Re: Please, enough already

2016-06-17 Thread Tony C via Talk
Enough also, quit whinning. What will be will be. -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:44 PM To: 'Robert Ringwald' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Please, enough already Absolutely. This is just getting tiresome. We're supposed to be

Re: using window-eyes without speech when a braille display is connected:

2016-06-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Yes, just set the active synthesizer to none. > On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:52 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk > wrote: > > Hi can I use window-eyes withouth speech when a braille display is > connected? The reason why I am asking is because I use braille a lot, and > want

RE: Please, enough already

2016-06-17 Thread David Crowell via Talk
I agree with you Bob, If these type of messages do not stop or dwindle down to just a few by Monday I will be unsubscribing also for a few weeks until things settle down. I do not run a business but am tired of spending a good part of my day deleteting email after email of unread messages

using window-eyes without speech when a braille display is connected:

2016-06-17 Thread kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
Hi can I use window-eyes withouth speech when a braille display is connected? The reason why I am asking is because I use braille a lot, and want to disable speech in window-eyes. Kenny Peyatt jr. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
If John Blake is the type of CEO that he is being portrayed as being, much of this feedback will be geting to him. I actually believe that he could show some leadership though, and as soon as practicable, tell us how the new company will stay committed to Ai Squared products. There is

Re: How you can help

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
Hi. The reason I like Window-eyes so much is it focuses on features without being too bogged down in gimics. I don't need a special keystroke just to search for something on the web, I can just pull up Google and do it myself.Plus with more recent versions of JAWS, their

RE: Please, enough already

2016-06-17 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Absolutely. This is just getting tiresome. We're supposed to be helping each other out. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:41 PM To: Talk Subject: Please, enough

Re: How You Can Help

2016-06-17 Thread Kim Lingo via Talk
Relax, it's rarely like this. It'll calm down in a day or so. Kim Lingo - Original Message - From: "Linda Mentink via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes" Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: How You Can Help Excellent

Please, enough already

2016-06-17 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk
I have spent far too much time just deleting messages regarding the current buy out. I operate two businesses. I don’t have time to sit here and delete message after message after message. Its all been said over and over. Nothing more need to be said. If you must continue, Please gather the

RE: How you can help

2016-06-17 Thread Charles Short via Talk
I've already taken action by contacting the leadership team of VFO. Window-Eyes won't disappear. ...I'm pretty sure it won't. Charlie Short -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Friday, June

Re: David Wu interview

2016-06-17 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
Fascinating, V F O, happens to be my ham radio call sign. -- Curtis Delzer On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 17:08:12 -0400 "kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk" wrote: > Hi Gail. As marc stated earlier, if window-eyes has helped you, let VFO know > that you

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
freedom is to become unfreedom for it's competitors. -- Curtis Delzer On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:29:47 -0600 Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > But we know Greedom and how they usually operate. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 17, 2016, at

Re: How you can help

2016-06-17 Thread Wei Chong Tang via Talk
Hello, This is one of the most positive message I've read today. Well said, Mark. I think the reason we like window-eyes is because of the features that it provides. For example, I love the "n" that window-eyes has, because it actually read all text in brows moad. Although Jaws and NVDA has the

Re: action by DOJ

2016-06-17 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
Isn't it a possibility that AI-SQUARED agreed to this, were not "taken over," but aligned their purpose with them? -- Curtis Delzer On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:53:49 -0400 Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: > This is sound advice, i'm glad someone

RE: David Wu interview

2016-06-17 Thread kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
Hi Gail. As marc stated earlier, if window-eyes has helped you, let VFO know that you still want window-eyes to be around. Kenny Peyatt jr. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+p.wildcat1234=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Gayle via Talk Sent: Friday, June

David Wu interview

2016-06-17 Thread Gayle via Talk
Hi, I just listened to the interview with David Wu. I’m wondering how the staff feels about what’s going on. I’ve been using Window Eyes for quite a long time now and have been pleased with tech support and also the fact that I’m not waiting for such a long time to speak to a support

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
Not sure who started the thread with incorrect spelling, but it is David Wu, spelled W, U. And, you can find it here: http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast127-David_Wu.mp3. Best, Marc -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi: Where can I find this David Woo interview. Kevin Huber On 6/17/16, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote: > Yes, please! Thes speculations are filling up my inbox and nobody can do > anything, at this time. > > > > www.harmonicaworkshops.com

RE: How you can help

2016-06-17 Thread Armando Maldonado via Talk
Amen! None of this bashing/negativity/getting DOJ involved will solve nothing, other than create a bad image of both you and partially the blind community in itself. Well stated Mark! Best, Armando -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread george basioli via Talk
Why don't you all stop this shit and if you want to continue someone start a email list to talk about the merge so we can get back to questions on using win eyes. This is getting to the point where I have to mute my phone from all this bull shit, and to bad for the language dbut this is what it is

How You Can Help

2016-06-17 Thread Linda Mentink via Talk
Excellent suggestion. I haven't been on this list very long, and I don't post often, but I'm really disgusted. It's a big waste of my time to debbete abbl the messages on this list that pertain to the company's decision. I thought this list was to help users with problems and questions

Re: How you can help

2016-06-17 Thread Loy via Talk
Good advise. - Original Message - From: Marc Solomon via Talk To: Bill Tillery ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Chris Skarstad' Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:47 PM Subject: How you can help Hi everyone, I had a conversation with a person who is a loyal Window-Eyes user

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk
Here, Here, I agree. Let it rest for the next six months anyway! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: 'Chris Skarstad' ;

How you can help

2016-06-17 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
Hi everyone, I had a conversation with a person who is a loyal Window-Eyes user the other day. She, like many of you, was very concerned about the future of Window-Eyes. She, like many of you, is unsure of the impact the recent acquisition will have on the blind community. With that said, she

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
More to the point all you that think you know it all why are you wasting time posting comments on list why aren't you solving the problem? I mean you know it all! You have all the answers!! Yes being sarcastic. -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
I do rather think that JAWS will still be developed, as will Window-eyes. But things with JAWS haven't exactly been revolutionary of late. Most of the updates and improovements involve toys. Window-eyes may lack some of the features, but it's more stable. On 6/17/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
But we know Greedom and how they usually operate. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk > wrote: > > Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! > > > >> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: >> We will

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
That would be the most unexpected thing in the assistive technology since the screen reader was invented. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:20 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk > wrote: > > What if it is jaws that they decide not to further develop, and

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
I hear what people are saying, but that doesn't mean that we as Window-eyes users should just lie down and give up. If you value Window-eyes, then we need to say something. If it does turn out that JAWS wins, then we can at least say we tried. On 6/17/2016 1:45 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk
Yes, thank you Chris, I am almost ready to unsubscribe and yet I need the list for many other reasons. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 12:35 PM To: Reeva Webb

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Mike Rogers via Talk
Yes, please! Thes speculations are filling up my inbox and nobody can do anything, at this time. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:40:46 -0400 Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > I agree > >

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Oh, Hmm, let's see, just for a second. Freedom Scientific's idea of a great offer, JAWS and Magic student addition for $300 per year, "Using Federal Quoata funds. They have never, and will not ever, consider the end-user. Gw-micro/Ai Squared Window-eyes as long as you have a copy of the latest

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message-

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing.

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
I'm sure AI Squared appreciates the overwelming confidence people have in them. Sarcasm is great. On 6/17/2016 11:00 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: I would be very surprised if he has any position at all. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Loy via Talk

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Why are so many of you list members acting like the end has come. I'm looking forward to the future and hoping for the best in accessibility! If you expect the worst, that's what you'll get, I'm expecting a positive outcome and I hope that I'm right about that! Bob, K8LR,

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Or a favorite voice? SOrry. -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:51 AM To: RJ Sandefur ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk
Hi Chris, Do you have the information for the contacts we need to approach for this notification? I, for one, will do certainly do all I can to make sure they know the WE is still the best screen reader I have ever used. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Loy via Talk
I wonder what position that Doug will have in this new acquisition? - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad via Talk To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:51 AM Subject: Re: David Woo interview But nobody knows! Support Ai

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it after all this goes down. On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what happens. RJ On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Alan Paganelli via Talk
I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts

RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Noone knows for sure what will happen. So just let it play out that's about all you can do. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:18 AM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Tony C via Talk
None of this supprises me at all. AI used to be a Jaws user, until I tried to build a website. I had a friend that was working with me to build it and he was a WE user. WE blew Jaws away because there was something that just couldn't be done with Jaws. I contacted Freedom about what I couldn't

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
That's my biggest fear. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk > wrote: > > I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy > indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily >

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
But nobody knows! Support Ai Squared all you can, and let VFO know how much you appreciate Window-eyes being around. If none of us does, then it may happen. but again, nobody knows. If you want Window-eyes to stick around, don't let it go without speaking up. On 6/17/2016 8:36 AM,

RE: Using the iPhone

2016-06-17 Thread Veronica Smith via Talk
I learned fast and efficiently by using the Hadley seminar IOS seminars. They are super. V -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 10:52 PM To: 'Window-Eyes

Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
And that's exactly what I said would happen. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk > wrote: > > I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy > indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David

Re: Google Krome

2016-06-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
We have heard reports of this and have occasionally been able to reproduce a crash, but not consistently enough to diagnose it. If you have a set of reproducible steps, please pass them along to wesupp...@aisquared.com. Thanks, Steve > On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Terry Chaney via Talk >

Google Krome

2016-06-17 Thread Terry Chaney via Talk
Every now and then I give Chrome a try and have found recently that it invariably crashes window eyes. I'm curious if anyone else is having this experience or if it is machine specific. I'm using windows 10 and window eyes latest version. Terry Chaney

BrailleInput app now supports BAUM braille displays

2016-06-17 Thread brailleinput via Talk
Hi all, I am happy to announce that BrailleInput version 2.3 app now support BAUM braille displays (such as VarioUltra, and Pronto). If you are using VarioConnect, you should be able to use the app, but will have to make a small customization to be able to support transition between modes:

David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Ivan Cribb via Talk
I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO

Re: David Wu interview

2016-06-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
I think that what you say here is valid: but let us remember the source of the interview - a publication owned and operated by Freedom Scientific. Thus - there must inevitably be a degree of bias, and the interview and the now archived podcast is a public relations exercise. Whilst I hope

RE: betrayal

2016-06-17 Thread Barbara via Talk
I was out-of-town when all this came out, so I am catching up now. OK I want to comment on this below. I do not think the comparison is really appropriate mostly because we are talking about screen readers which has a very small market. I agree at some future time this company will have only 1

Re: David Wu interview

2016-06-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I have also listen to the interview, and I too was disappointed. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 1:59 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk > wrote: > > I certainly understand how your feeling. That was why I was and am working > on a project to get Window-Eyes

RE: David Wu interview

2016-06-17 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
I certainly understand how your feeling. That was why I was and am working on a project to get Window-Eyes included in education and to keep it going so that it won't go away. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Olusegun --