Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-15 Thread peter Chin via Talk
doesn't work either. Suggestions, pleease. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:36 PM To: peter Chin ; steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts You have to go into wlm settings and

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-14 Thread peter Chin via Talk
o turn it on to try it. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:57 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts why do you use it? every other word says it is mis spelled. even when it is not. i turned i

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-14 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
You have to go into wlm settings and turn on spell check. -Original Message- From: peter Chin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 3:25 AM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Using Window-Eyes 9.5

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-13 Thread net bat via Talk
, October 13, 2017 3:25 AM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Using Window-Eyes 9.5.4, I find that I can access most of WLM accept for the fact that for some unknown reason, my spellcheck is disabled a

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-13 Thread peter Chin via Talk
jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts IN my case, window eyes works a lot better than nvda in windows live mail. The tripletalk usb addon for nvda doesn't support indexing. -Original Message- From: Steve Jac

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-13 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
ounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: Joseph Norton via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts When you say "it should still give you some functionality" it soun

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-13 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
rton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: Joseph Norton via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts When you say "it should still give you some functionality" it sounds like you'v

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-13 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
-- From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:russ94...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:12 AM To: joseph.nor...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Next week Windows 10 Fall Creator's Edition, version 1709 will be released. Is tha

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-13 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
#x27; ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi: This is insider build 16299, the Windows version is 1709. If they don't make any significant changes in the kernel, it should still give you some functionality with Window-Eyes. -Original Message---

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-13 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
er 12, 2017 10:12 AM To: joseph.nor...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Next week Windows 10 Fall Creator's Edition, version 1709 will be released. Is that the version you now have? -Original Message- From: joseph.n

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-12 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:10 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Speaking of Window Eyes, does an

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-12 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Steve Jacobson Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts If we are going to be fair about this discussion, VFO can't just throw the Window-Eyes code into JAWS. I also think it is reasonable to keep in mind the fact that they really wanted ZoomText so probably didn't give a lot of thought

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-12 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
ent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:46 PM To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi Brenda, Starting to hate computers is the main reason why I decided to buy a Mac

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:10 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Speaking of Window Eyes, does anyone happen to know if it will work wit

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
ail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: October 11, 2017 3:02 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Brenda Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts I think crawling into a hole is a great idea. I'm really starting to hate computers. Brenda On 10/10/2017 1:38 PM, Nick Sarames via Ta

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
sts.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:11 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jim Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi THERE! While I agree that Jaws could do more especially now that they have acquired Window-Eyes I haven't had a real

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
f Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:31 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts I think reserving Judgment until after the jaws 2018 cycle is complete and jaws2019 is out. You don't know what they

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread David Moore via Talk
Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi Brenda, Starting to hate computers is the main reason why I decided to buy a MacBook Pro a few weeks bac,. The way Apple designs their operating systems, making them more human< I would say, it is actually a pleasure to

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
alf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: October 11, 2017 3:02 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Brenda Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts I think crawling into a hole is a great idea. I'm really starting to hate computers. Brenda On 10/10/2017 1:38 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: > The cons

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
unces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:41 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Charles Adkins Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts let me make one thing clear, I am not bitter. I am not sure about what mer

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Brenda via Talk
rs of Jaws really serves nothing. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:11 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jim Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi THERE

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Brenda via Talk
Hey Olusegun Keep me posted on your android success. I would like to avoid PCs but find them a necessity. I do simple things like web serfing, email and banking. I'm hoping an iPad willlet me do all these things safely, but not all apps are useable. I am trying to stay open to other solutio

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Brenda via Talk
it would of been f s that would be out of business now. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:01 AM To: Chuck Adkins via Talk Cc: Bob Tinney Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Chuck, I agree with you!  My s m as were carried over from

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread geodom--- via Talk
dkins Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts let me make one thing clear, I am not bitter. I am not sure about what merge is being talked about, Window-eyes was dropped, not merged with Jaws. My point was Vfo had the chance to retain the best of Window-eyes and jaws in both technology and peopl

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread geodom--- via Talk
Unfortunately, they weren't willing to admit that there were people who knew how to do things better than they could. Pam. -Original Message- From: loy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:06 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: loy Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread geodom--- via Talk
Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues and some websites work better

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
How does it compare to jaws? -Original Message- From: David Moore via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:45 PM To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Moore Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi guys! Another paid screen reader is System

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts they also need to make that $120 full copy of jaws for people on fixed incomes, something publically available on their website. On 10/10/2017 7:07 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: Hi, Yes, I know. I do believe however that since they killed WE, they really need to focus

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues and some websites work b

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
> > > Best, > > > > Rod > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail.com@lists. > window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk > > Sent: October 10, 2017 6:11 PM > > To: Window-Eyes Discussion

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Charles Adkins via Talk
a Talk > Sent: October 10, 2017 6:11 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Josh Kennedy > Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts > > oh well then maybe I will just stay with NVDA and I may not bother > buying jaws, not sure yet. I heard jaws has better microsoft

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-11 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
1 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts oh  well then maybe I will just stay with NVDA and I may not bother buying jaws, not sure yet. I heard jaws has better microsoft office support than NVDA does. But maybe that is no longer true?

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:11 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jim Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi THERE! While I agree that Jaws could do more especially now that

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:52 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts because f s had all the money to throw around to permote there products and to businesses and schools. few even heard of window eyes and were not willing to use a pr

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
ubject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Tony, the death of Window-Eyes is what has gotten me to elect to abandon Windows completely and move everything over to both an Android tablet and a smartphone! I am a tad slow learning my tablet, but I will keep on with it until I beat it to submission.

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tony, the death of Window-Eyes is what has gotten me to elect to abandon Windows completely and move everything over to both an Android tablet and a smartphone! I am a tad slow learning my tablet, but I will keep on with it until I beat it to submission. Business reasons also slow my move because

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
n WE no longer works. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:14 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Tony, I seriously doubt that

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Tony, I seriously doubt that the law against monopoly apply in the access technology industry. If it does, it is a bit too late now. GW Micro is gone and I doubt if it can be revived. Besides, who truly

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
ll the money it would of been f s that would be out of business now. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:01 AM To: Chuck Adkins via Talk Cc: Bob Tinney Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Chuck, I agree with you!  My s m as were carrie

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Jim via Talk
Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? What I am guessing is happen

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tony, I seriously doubt that the law against monopoly apply in the access technology industry. If it does, it is a bit too late now. GW Micro is gone and I doubt if it can be revived. Besides, who truly want to spend endless hours in court? GW Micro went through that once, and I don't believe D

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
What products for the disabled? -Original Message- From: Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:00 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Charles Adkins Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts it doesn’t seem like they affect products for the disabled does it

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread loy via Talk
- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:38 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts The consensus seems to be that WE, overall, is better.  I have yet to use Jaws, but the more I read here, the more I realize that we

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Charles Adkins via Talk
7;t work well with a lot of > very common programs. > > -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:42 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Nick Sarames > Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts > > While I believe

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
ssion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues and some web

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
ubject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts The consensus seems to be that WE, overall, is better. I have yet to use Jaws, but the more I read here, the more I realize that we each have different systems and needs. So while you can't seem to pay your credit card, others can. And while you

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread loy via Talk
The reason there are so many JAWS users, is that government organizations bought them. Most Window Eyes users had to buy it themselves. JAWS is a good program, but for me it is loaded down with so much stuff that I don't need. I still use We most of the time, using JAWS trying to get use to it

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread net bat via Talk
: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues and some websites work bett

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread net bat via Talk
10, 2017 7:18 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Window eyes does work a lot better with windows live mail. -Original Message- From: Chuck Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:33 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc:

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues and some websites work better on WE, and other websites work better on Jaws. Of course

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Tinney via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:01 AM > To: Chuck Adkins via Talk > Cc: Bob Tinney > Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts > > Chuck, > > > I agree with you!  My s m as were carried over from W E, but when I have > to pay for an upgrade, J

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread net bat via Talk
ne. money talks. if gwmicro was the one that had all the money it would of been f s that would be out of business now. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:01 AM To: Chuck Adkins via Talk Cc: Bob Tinney Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoug

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
bject: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing, usability, layout, and so much more. Like on the Ohio Lottery Website, when reading the pick 5 Jaws will not scroll down continuousl

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Chuck, I agree with you!  My s m as were carried over from W E, but when I have to pay for an upgrade, Jaws will disappear from my computer. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 10/10/2017 8:33 AM, Chuck Adkins via Talk wrote: Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the W

Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Chuck Adkins via Talk
Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing, usability, layout, and so much more. Like on the Ohio Lottery Website, when reading the pick 5 Jaws will not scroll down continuously down the page like NVDA, Narrator,