Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread Robin Paulson
On 09/02/2008, Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: > > <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- > > Tree Tree Tree Tree > > <- <- < > > > -> -> > > Tree Tree Tree Tree > > --> --> --> --> --> > > > Any suggestion about how to rend

Re: [OSM-talk] New Coastline in Mapnik - Glasgow cIty center issue

2008-02-08 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 10:17 +, David Groom wrote: > > Thanks to all for working on this! The River Clyde in Glasgow is almost > > perfect now. I say almost because there seems to be an issue between > > Bridge Street/A77 and the A74: > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.85324&lon=-4

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-08 Thread Gervase Markham
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gervase Markham wrote: > | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > |> It's been proposed by me several times in the past. I think it's > |> essential. I don't know of a similar major project that doesn't do some > |> kind of

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Artem Pavlenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Earl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "David Groom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "talk Openstreetmap" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-08 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gervase Markham wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: |> It's been proposed by me several times in the past. I think it's |> essential. I don't know of a similar major project that doesn't do some |> kind of assignment. Wikipedia is the nearest, but Wik

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: > bvh wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:52:55PM +, David Earl wrote: > >> On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > >>> <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- highway = service > >>> Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park > >> > >> err... leisure=pa

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: > can someone have a look at "Corso Massimo d'Azeglio"? Coordinates? -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description:

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread wiseLYNX
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: >> <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- >> Tree Tree Tree Tree >> <- <- < >> > -> -> >> Tree Tree Tree Tree >> --> --> --> --> --> > >> Any suggestion about how to render all this? Even an example of an >> alr

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread wiseLYNX
bvh wrote: > On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:52:55PM +, David Earl wrote: >> On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >>> <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- highway = service >>> Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park >> err... leisure=park > > err... is a line of trees a park? it ususally is just a line

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/02/2008 16:12, bvh wrote: > On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:52:55PM +, David Earl wrote: >> On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >>> <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- highway = service >>> Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park >> err... leisure=park > > err... is a line of trees a park? A bigg

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread bvh
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:52:55PM +, David Earl wrote: > On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > > <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- highway = service > > Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park > err... leisure=park err... is a line of trees a park? cu bart _

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- highway = service > Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park err... leisure=park ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ta

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: > <-- <-- <-- <-- <-- > Tree Tree Tree Tree > <- <- < > > -> -> > Tree Tree Tree Tree > --> --> --> --> --> > Any suggestion about how to render all this? Even an example of an > already done similar object could be usefu

[OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread wiseLYNX
Hi everybody, my quest to map Torino continues, and yesterday I was gratified by seeing the first update of the rendered map containing my work. I have a question though. Torino is full of wonderful wide avenues, with a central two way lane, and two one way lane on the sides. something like this

[OSM-talk] Uploading non-GPX files

2008-02-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hello all, In case anyone else finds it useful... I've knocked up a short webform that enables you to upload tracklogs to OSM in other formats than GPX. It does the conversion for you, then uploads the resulting GPX file. It might be useful if, say, you have a NaviGPS and have copied the NM

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 12:05, David Earl wrote: > On 08/02/2008 11:54, David Groom wrote: >> You mean like >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Proposed/Rivers, >> which >> would be my ideal, > > Ah, yes. > > I was suggesting putting in the connections across the river as well, > but

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 8, 2008 12:47 PM, David Groom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The rules are fairly simple: all areas must be closed, except for > > coastlines. People may not like the results, but it's what works right > > now. > > > My point was that while a tag is still only at the proposal stage is a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons and Multipolygons

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 11:50, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >> I found the way term 'Multipolygon' is used in OSM context is >> confusing. > > True. What we had been looking for was a term for "polygons with > holes"; it seemed unreasonable to create a relation "type=polygon" > as plain polygons,

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/02/2008 11:54, David Groom wrote: > You mean like > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Proposed/Rivers, which > would be my ideal, Ah, yes. I was suggesting putting in the connections across the river as well, but there isn't any reason why if the renderer is building its

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Earl
You could do it as a relation. The river bank would be a set of ways (each of which shares its end nodes with the ends of one of the others), and you could have a role for the one or two ways which close the loop which says "this is structural, not really part of the river bank". The renderer w

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons and Multipolygons

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 11:46, Andy Robinson ((blackadder)) wrote: > Artem Pavlenko wrote: >> Sent: 08 February 2008 11:42 AM >> To: talk Openstreetmap >> Cc: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap >> Subject: [OSM-dev] Polygons and Multipolygons >> >> Hello, >> >> I found the way term 'Multipolygon' is used in OSM con

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "David Earl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Artem Pavlenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "David Groom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular > You could do it as a

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons and Multipolygons

2008-02-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > I found the way term 'Multipolygon' is used in OSM context is > confusing. True. What we had been looking for was a term for "polygons with holes"; it seemed unreasonable to create a relation "type=polygon" as plain polygons, without holes, don't require relations. But multipolygon

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 11:27, David Earl wrote: > You could do it as a relation. > > The river bank would be a set of ways (each of which shares its end > nodes with the ends of one of the others), and you could have a > role for the one or two ways which close the loop which says "this > is str

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons and Multipolygons

2008-02-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Artem Pavlenko wrote: >Sent: 08 February 2008 11:42 AM >To: talk Openstreetmap >Cc: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap >Subject: [OSM-dev] Polygons and Multipolygons > >Hello, > >I found the way term 'Multipolygon' is used in OSM context is confusing. > >Here are ISO 19125-1 definitions : > >1. Polygon > >A Pol

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Martijn van Oosterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Groom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular > On Feb 8, 2008 11:39 AM, David Groom <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 11:26, Andy Allan wrote: > On Feb 8, 2008 11:09 AM, Artem Pavlenko > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> We can make osm2pgsql or coastline tools to create polygons, but why >> not create them in the first place ? >> Can someone enlighten me, please ? > > If I wanted to draw the r

[OSM-talk] Polygons and Multipolygons

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
Hello, I found the way term 'Multipolygon' is used in OSM context is confusing. Here are ISO 19125-1 definitions : 1. Polygon A Polygon is a planar Surface, defined by 1 exterior boundary and 0 or more interior boundaries. Each interior boundary defines a hole in the Polygon. The assertions

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Andy Allan
On Feb 8, 2008 11:09 AM, Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We can make osm2pgsql or coastline tools to create polygons, but why > not create them in the first place ? > Can someone enlighten me, please ? If I wanted to draw the rivers as light blue* with dark blue riverbanks, wouldn't s

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
David Groom wrote: >Sent: 08 February 2008 10:40 AM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular > >The proposed tag waterway = river, >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Large_rivers , >has >been at proposal stage f

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 8, 2008 11:39 AM, David Groom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The main problem area seems to be that some people do not like the current > proposal whereby a river is divided up in to separate closed areas. The > reason being that the "segment" crossing the river to close the area marks a > bo

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 10:39, David Groom wrote: > The proposed tag waterway = river, > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/ > Large_rivers , has > been at proposal stage for over 18 months, which seems far too long > for a > tag which represents such an important feature. > >

[OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
The proposed tag waterway = river, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Large_rivers , has been at proposal stage for over 18 months, which seems far too long for a tag which represents such an important feature. The main problem area seems to be that some people do not lik

Re: [OSM-talk] New Coastline in Mapnik - Glasgow cIty center issue

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Keith Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New Coastline in Mapnik - Glasgow cIty center issue > > On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 22:41 +, Jon Burgess wrote: >> I have switch the Mapnik layer over to use t

Re: [OSM-talk] New Coastline in Mapnik - Glasgow cIty center issue

2008-02-08 Thread Keith Sharp
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 22:41 +, Jon Burgess wrote: > I have switch the Mapnik layer over to use the new coastline shapefiles > for zooms 10-18. These files are generated by extracting all the OSM > ways with natural=coastline. > > In most places these shapefiles are far better then what we had