[OSM-talk] [tagging] Vote Open: disused=yes

2008-03-11 Thread Cartinus
Hi, I have seen in proposals or discussions about them several different ideas about how to tag if something is still functional/in use or not. However there has been a proposal for a general tag just for this for a while now. So I dusted of this older proposal (just lay-out changes, but no con

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Martin Spott skrev: > "J.D. Schmidt" wrote: > >> AD plates are available for any licensed pilot via the FAA, otherwise it >> would be impossible to plan a flight between airports. > > For many countries the use of these 'official' aerodrome ground layouts > is _explicitly_ restricted to performa

[OSM-talk] New Feature Proposal

2008-03-11 Thread Pam Krolikowski
Hi, I have created three proposals for the OSM community. I am working with a group of students from the University of Maryland and we are trying to make a map system of campus, that can be customized for safety and handicap concerns. The proposals I am making are as follows: http://wiki.openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmarender, bridges, layers and seams

2008-03-11 Thread 80n
It is a bug. The seams are a rendering artifact and should definitely not be worked-around by adjusting the tagging. On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Dermot McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The matter of renderer quirks and whether you should work around them > arose on another thread but d

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
"J.D. Schmidt" wrote: > AD plates are available for any licensed pilot via the FAA, otherwise it > would be impossible to plan a flight between airports. For many countries the use of these 'official' aerodrome ground layouts is _explicitly_ restricted to performance of real-life flights, no mat

[OSM-talk] Osmarender, bridges, layers and seams

2008-03-11 Thread Dermot McNally
The matter of renderer quirks and whether you should work around them arose on another thread but didn't really go places. One principle that was strongly backed was "fix the renderer, don't tamper with the data". But before filing any bug reports I want to check the mood among those of you hacking

Re: [OSM-talk] areas without holes

2008-03-11 Thread Jon Burgess
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 16:02 +0100, Robert Vollmert wrote: > Hello, > > the attached script joins up the ways in multipolygons that satisfy > the following: > > all members are non-closed ways with role="" > all members share the same tags (apart from created_by) > by reversing some of the ways

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: Path

2008-03-11 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > As of 18:01, 11 March 2008, it appears that the "Path" proposal was on > its way to rejection. > > It has now been heavily modified, taking the comments of the voters into > account, and is back to RFC status. > > Voting will open again after the RFC period. > > Please read and comment upon

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: Path

2008-03-11 Thread Alex Mauer
As of 18:01, 11 March 2008, it appears that the "Path" proposal was on its way to rejection. It has now been heavily modified, taking the comments of the voters into account, and is back to RFC status. Voting will open again after the RFC period. Please read and comment upon the updated propos

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:34:56 - "Andy Robinson \(blackadder\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > >Luckily I've never really had any major trouble but my standard response > >would probably be "Got the internet? Look up www.openstreetmap.org. Is > >your street on there and named? No? Will it soo

Re: [OSM-talk] what value for access in parks etc that you have to pay to enter?

2008-03-11 Thread Robin Paulson
On 12/03/2008, David Ebling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This question has been bugging me for a while. What > access= tag should you usefor footpaths and other ways > that are within a park that you must pay to enter. > They are not really private, but neither are they free > public access. A

[OSM-talk] the way forward...

2008-03-11 Thread Robin Paulson
the entire town (*everything*) of nanaimo in canada is being mapped with help from google - it would be wonderful to get this kind of collaboration with OSM, to promote innovative uses of unusual data sets http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1720932,00.html http://earth.nanaimo.ca/data.

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
wiseLYNX schrieb: > Stephen Gower wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:54:53PM +0100, Pieren Pieren wrote: >> FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! >>> +1 >>> I restored the single page. >>> >> -1 >> >> The full page has got way too long to actually be us

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread Gregory
Yep it's either rough areas or where people would probably take forever to understand me, that I fear being seen. However there are the times (maybe as many) when I'd like to be asked. On 11/03/2008, Igor Brejc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nick Whitelegg wrote: > >> I tend to keep my GPS unit in

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread Thomas Wood
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Charles Basenga Kiyanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll second that. When I'm mapping, I can narrow it down to a couple > categories if I'm not sure which tag(s) (or if there is one) is/are > appropriate. Having a single place to search where only tags are > re

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread Igor Brejc
Nick Whitelegg wrote: >> I tend to keep my GPS unit in my pocket when I encounter people. The >> accuracy probably suffers, but at least I don't get the stares :) >> > > To be honest I'd have thought keeping the gps unit out would mean you're > less likely to get harassed - it makes you look

Re: [OSM-talk] How to correct logical errors in some effective way?

2008-03-11 Thread Lars Aronsson
On March 1, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > When I am looking at the Scandinavian data loaded into PostGIS > database with the fine osm2pgsql utility (thanks, Artem) I can > simply find hundreds or thousands of logical errors in data. > For example this is an excerpt from the list of highway tags > u

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread wiseLYNX
Stephen Gower wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:54:53PM +0100, Pieren Pieren wrote: >>> FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! >>> >> +1 >> I restored the single page. > > -1 > > The full page has got way too long to actually be useful. In my > opinion, it should include the main optio

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread Charles Basenga Kiyanda
I'll second that. When I'm mapping, I can narrow it down to a couple categories if I'm not sure which tag(s) (or if there is one) is/are appropriate. Having a single place to search where only tags are returned is a great tool. Might I suggest a wiki page called Map_Features_All and one called

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread Chris Hill
I don't want to shout you down - this is the talk list, so lets talk. My experience from *mapping*, not managing the wiki, is why I like the map features on one page. I use Find on this Page in Firefox to search the page. I still have to look at proposed features, where I use the same process.

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:54:53PM +0100, Pieren Pieren wrote: > > FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! > > > +1 > I restored the single page. -1 The full page has got way too long to actually be useful. In my opinion, it should include the main options for highways, perhaps the top

[OSM-talk] poor quality of PGS coastline data

2008-03-11 Thread David Ebling
Hi all, This is more a series of observations than a question, but I'd like to hear other people's views on the subject. I've come across areas where the PGS coast data is clearly of very poor quality. eg: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.2806&lon=-76.0748&zoom=13&layers=0BFT -roads are runni

Re: [OSM-talk] what value for access in parks etc that you have to pay to enter?

2008-03-11 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 11, 2008, at 15:39, David Ebling wrote: > This question has been bugging me for a while. What > access= tag should you usefor footpaths and other ways > that are within a park that you must pay to enter. > They are not really private, but neither are they free > public access. If there's s

[OSM-talk] areas without holes

2008-03-11 Thread Robert Vollmert
Hello, the attached script joins up the ways in multipolygons that satisfy the following: all members are non-closed ways with role="" all members share the same tags (apart from created_by) by reversing some of the ways, they form one long way The member ways are merged into one long way an

Re: [OSM-talk] Question about Licences

2008-03-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Blake Crosby wrote: > Duplication and/or reproduction of this map for commercial use is > strictly prohibited. > > Does this jive with OSMs licence? Ie, can I use this map as a reference? No. The "non-commercial" clause isn't compatible with OSM. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] What has happened to Scandinavian dump file?

2008-03-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > There used to be daily Scandinavian dumps at > hypercube.telascience.org/planet. > Now the most fresh one is more than a week old. The service probably suffers from the recent un-availability of daily planet diffs. On my site http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ there's excerpts for

[OSM-talk] Question about Licences

2008-03-11 Thread Blake Crosby
The map in question is here: http://www.town.aurora.on.ca/app/wa/doc?docId=4410 The Copyright states: Map created by Town of Aurora Planning Department, January 31st, 2003. Modified on July 24th, 2007. Base Data provided by the Region of York. The Town of Aurora is not responsible for any erro

[OSM-talk] what value for access in parks etc that you have to pay to enter?

2008-03-11 Thread David Ebling
Hi everyone, This question has been bugging me for a while. What access= tag should you usefor footpaths and other ways that are within a park that you must pay to enter. They are not really private, but neither are they free public access. A example in the UK would be paths within a garden or the

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Andy Robinson (blackadder) skrev: > There is no need for OSM data gathering to be a subversive activity. Make a > statement about it and tell people what you are doing. > Aaaww shucks - There goes 250 € down the drain. Anybody interested in a full urban camouflage battledress, complete with mat

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread Blake Crosby
There is a source of data that might be helpful. http://www.ourairports.com/ contains information about most of the "official" airports in the world, plus some ones that are not documented. I'm unsure of the type of license, however, if you contact the site owner, he will be glad to help you ou

[OSM-talk] What has happened to Scandinavian dump file?

2008-03-11 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
There used to be daily Scandinavian dumps at hypercube.telascience.org/planet. Now the most fresh one is more than a week old. Does anybody know what has happened? -Jukka Rahkonen- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Nick Whitelegg wrote: >Sent: 11 March 2008 1:24 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Stares > >>I tend to keep my GPS unit in my pocket when I encounter people. The >>accuracy probably suffers, but at least I don't get the stares :) > >To be honest I'd have thought keeping the gp

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>I tend to keep my GPS unit in my pocket when I encounter people. The >accuracy probably suffers, but at least I don't get the stares :) To be honest I'd have thought keeping the gps unit out would mean you're less likely to get harassed - it makes you look like you're kind of doing something o

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Rahkonen Jukka skrev: > J.D. Schmidt wrote: > > >>> "Users: X-Plane users have added many other airports, >> nav-aids and all the taxiways. This data is imported into >> the same database as the DAFIF data, and in many cases >> enhances or corrects the DAFIF data." >>> It is under GNU GPL >>>

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
J.D. Schmidt wrote: > > "Users: X-Plane users have added many other airports, > nav-aids and all the taxiways. This data is imported into > the same database as the DAFIF data, and in many cases > enhances or corrects the DAFIF data." > > > > It is under GNU GPL > > > > Please refrain from

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Rahkonen Jukka skrev: > Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure someone already imported all the basic data for airport >> locations around the world but there may be other info that's of interest >> from this data set providing the licence on that data is compatible with >> ours. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Next steps (was: Applied for Google Summer of Code)

2008-03-11 Thread Steve Chilton
If someone writes something generic I will happily forward to someone in Computer Science at Middlesex University - where I work, but not in that dept. Cheers STEVE Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager School of Health and Social Sciences Middl

Re: [OSM-talk] Next steps (was: Applied for Google Summer of Code)

2008-03-11 Thread Gregory
On 11/03/2008, Sebastian Spaeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, here are the next steps for GSoC. > > - We need students who are willing to take up one of the projects listed > on our wiki page (they can propose their own thing to us too, of > course). Students who are interested should show the

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread Martin Simon
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2008 10:43:44 schrieb Iván Sánchez Ortega: > El Martes, 11 de Marzo de 2008, Igor Brejc escribió: > > I tend to keep my GPS unit in my pocket when I encounter people. The > > accuracy probably suffers, but at least I don't get the stares :) > > I discovered the wonders of Velc

[OSM-talk] Next steps (was: Applied for Google Summer of Code)

2008-03-11 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
OK, here are the next steps for GSoC. - We need students who are willing to take up one of the projects listed on our wiki page (they can propose their own thing to us too, of course). Students who are interested should show their interest now. @all: If you know a promising student, let them know

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-11 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Martes, 11 de Marzo de 2008, Igor Brejc escribió: > I tend to keep my GPS unit in my pocket when I encounter people. The > accuracy probably suffers, but at least I don't get the stares :) I discovered the wonders of Velcro, and a wool pullover. This way I keep the GPS on my shoulder, and put

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: > I'm pretty sure someone already imported all the basic data for airport > locations around the world but there may be other info that's of interest > from this data set providing the licence on that data is compatible with > ours. Was the import done from this

[OSM-talk] Applied for Google Summer of Code

2008-03-11 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
OK, I have just submitted our application to Google SoC. We are in the pool. bobkare volunteered to act as backup admin in case I drop dread. Thanks for that. Let's see if this works out this year. I will probably be (nearly) non-reachable on WEdnesday and Thursday BTW, as I represent an OpenStree

Re: [OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
I'm pretty sure someone already imported all the basic data for airport locations around the world but there may be other info that's of interest from this data set providing the licence on that data is compatible with ours. Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailt

[OSM-talk] Free aerentical data

2008-03-11 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi, Just read from gdal-dev about this free and seemingly well organised data set. Could it be worth importing the most part of the airports in the world? Because of the new OGR driver it might be fairly easy technically. -Jukka Rahkonen- Even Roualt wrote: Folks, for those who are interested

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Request for Comments: Hiking

2008-03-11 Thread Christian Linder
Hi everybody, I propose a classification scheme for hiking trails. Rationale: - Especially for mountain trails, it is crucial to know wether a trail can be done in sneakers or wether you need ice axe and climbing irons. - Since Google Maps and the like are pretty unusable for hiking

Re: [OSM-talk] area_with_holes as alternative to multipolygon relation

2008-03-11 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 10, 2008, at 22:51, Igor Brejc wrote: > I too am a little bit confused: now the whole issue basically comes > down to renaming the relation from "multipolygon" to > "area_with_holes". But > the inital proposal had some other features, like using the inner > polygons' tags to render th