Re: [OSM-talk] Last Chance for GSoC 2009 Ideas

2009-03-12 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Adam Schreiber wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > > Hi everyone, I just submitted the application for GSoC 2009. If you have > a > > chance, please check out the GSoC 2009 application ideas page [1]. Feel > free > > to make comments on ex

Re: [OSM-talk] Last Chance for GSoC 2009 Ideas

2009-03-12 Thread Mikel Maron
I may be misinterpreting but .. we should be able to continue to add ideas to our list of projects beyond tomorrow. And students who want to apply for GSoC with OSM can contribute their own ideas .. in fact, we should welcome those ideas and encourage students to hash out the details of potentia

Re: [OSM-talk] Last Chance for GSoC 2009 Ideas

2009-03-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ian Dees wrote: > If you have a > chance, please check out the GSoC 2009 application ideas page [1] Ian Dees did not write: [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Applications_2009 ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _

Re: [OSM-talk] Last Chance for GSoC 2009 Ideas

2009-03-12 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > Hi everyone, I just submitted the application for GSoC 2009. If you have a > chance, please check out the GSoC 2009 application ideas page [1]. Feel free > to make comments on existing ideas, add your own, or add text to an existing > idea to make

[OSM-talk] Last Chance for GSoC 2009 Ideas

2009-03-12 Thread Ian Dees
Hi everyone, I just submitted the application for GSoC 2009. If you have a chance, please check out the GSoC 2009 application ideas page [1]. Feel free to make comments on existing ideas, add your own, or add text to an existing idea to make it clearer. Google describes in several spots on their we

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread David Lynch
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:36, Russ Nelson wrote: > No one has been able to refute my claim that if someone would enter it > by hand, it belongs in OSM regardless of its source.  And if it comes > from surveyed data, then it makes no sense to edit its position. > Metadata, perhaps.  But unless you

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 12, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Matt Amos wrote: > i would expect that a very small number of people, possibly zero, will > try and edit this data. Yeah, that's my conclusion as well. For some reason, people are objecting to being told not to do something they have no reason or interest in doin

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Ulf Möller
Ian Dees schrieb: > 1. It appears that they only allow projects with licenses approved by > the opensource.org site [1]. Is our current > license up there? Most of the OSM software is GPS licensed. I think that is the relevant license here. > 3. Is anyone willing to be

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: >> . However, I reject the idea that there is any data that belongs in >> OSM that "makes no sense to edit". If you can't edit it, then by >> definition it shouldn't be in a wiki-style map. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ Nelson wrote: >Sent: 09 March 2009 6:25 PM >To: Talk Openstreetmap >Subject: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands > >Earlier, I proposed that certain datasets should be immutable; whether >by policy or mechanism as needed. I propose importing the NYS DEC >Lands as an immutable set of data.

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: >> . However, I reject the idea that there is any data that belongs in >> OSM that "makes no sense to edit". If you can't edit it, then by >> definition it shouldn't be in a wiki-style map. >

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik does not display symbols

2009-03-12 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 18:15 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > looks like the problem is missing columns in the lenny install. I checked and > find the fedora10 install has 52 columns whereas the lenny one has only 41. I > cannot find the file which contains the create table statement - if I can g

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Arindam Ghosh
2009/3/12 Ian Dees : > Hi everyone, > > I'm working on the application for GSoC 2009 and have a couple questions > that others might be able to answer more effectively than I can: > > 1. It appears that they only allow projects with licenses approved by the > opensource.org site [1]. Is our current

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Thomas Wood wrote: > I'm guessing the Rails Port is under GPL (although not > explicitly stated anywhere) http://svn.openstreetmap.org/LICENSE ? cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm working on the application for GSoC 2009 and have a couple questions > that others might be able to answer more effectively than I can: > > 1. It appears that they only allow projects with licenses approved by the > opensource

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: > . However, I reject the idea that there is any data that belongs in > OSM that "makes no sense to edit". If you can't edit it, then by > definition it shouldn't be in a wiki-style map. No one has been able to refute my claim that if someone

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 08:30:21AM -0700, SteveC wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2009, at 04:52, Simon Ward wrote: > > The Foundation could do more to engage with the community by > > participating more in list discussion. > > With the way you guys treat people, why on Earth should they? Funny, yet I (we?)

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/3/12 Ian Dees : > Hi everyone, > > I'm working on the application for GSoC 2009 and have a couple questions > that others might be able to answer more effectively than I can: > > 1. It appears that they only allow projects with licenses approved by the > opensource.org site [1]. Is our current

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Subhodip Biswas
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm working on the application for GSoC 2009 and have a couple questions > that others might be able to answer more effectively than I can: > > 1. It appears that they only allow projects with licenses approved by the > opensourc

[OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Ian Dees
Hi everyone, I'm working on the application for GSoC 2009 and have a couple questions that others might be able to answer more effectively than I can: 1. It appears that they only allow projects with licenses approved by the opensource.org site [1]. Is our current license up there? 2. Who submit

[OSM-talk] 0.6 move and downtime (re-scheduled)

2009-03-12 Thread Grant Slater
Dear all The API downtime scheduled for the 0.6 API transition has been postponed due to delays acquiring the new database server. The re-scheduled API downtime for the 0.6 API upgrade is now the weekend of the 17-20th April 2009. Original announcement... http://lists.openstreetmap.org/piperma

Re: [OSM-talk] place=island rendering

2009-03-12 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: > Yeah, the unfortunate thing here is that this import probably brought in a > few hundred to a few thousand of these place=island POIs, and I would hazard > a guess that a large (huge?) portion of them don't have the physical island > bound

Re: [OSM-talk] place=island rendering

2009-03-12 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Andy Allan wrote: > Interesting issue. The techy in me thinks that tagging the island (tag > the way) rather than a point may help, since that allows data > consumers (e.g. renderers) to calculate the size of the island (and > even, perhaps in future, the longest

Re: [OSM-talk] place=island rendering

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: > I've noticed that there's a GNIS import going on in the USA recently, and > one of the types of POIs being imported are islands, which are tagged > place=island. Of course, the GNIS database contains some very tiny islands, > but Mapnik ren

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping driveways

2009-03-12 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > First of all, you should NEVER remove anything from the database, unless > you have made certain by your own eye that the object in question is an > error and not existing in reality! Even than take care not to remove > anything marked as aban

Re: [OSM-talk] place=island rendering

2009-03-12 Thread Alex Mauer
Ted Mielczarek wrote: > I've noticed that there's a GNIS import going on in the USA recently, > and one of the types of POIs being imported are islands, which are > tagged place=island. Of course, the GNIS database contains some very > tiny islands, but Mapnik renders place=island up to z10. For ex

Re: [OSM-talk] Beta testers required for new Windows Mobile OSM Client

2009-03-12 Thread Francisco R. Santos
Hi George Great program, I'm willing to use it but the OSM data download does not work with my regional settings (Spanish). I have to change the settings to something like UK to have OSM data. Map tile downloads work well, however. Regards, Quico 2009/2/12 George Styles : > Hi, > > Ive written s

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Spam] Re: License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Existing avenues for > feedback are of course: > > - this list and talk@ > - international mailing lists > - co-ment > - the wiki > - odc-discuss > - (have I missed any?) Yes, the ODC (OKFN) wiki have meanwhile started their own FAQ section which partly overlaps w

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Spam] Re: License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Grant Slater
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > As long as the phone conference is _additional_ to the existing processes, > not replacing them, I don't really see a problem. Existing avenues for > feedback are of course: > > - this list and talk@ > - international mailing lists > - co-ment > - the wiki > - odc-discuss

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > If it's "This is what NYS DEC says it manages", then no, it doesn't make > ANY sense > to change it. Then this data clearly doesn't belong in OSM. > If the data is "These are NYS's State Forests", then > there's plenty of reason to chang

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:21:49AM +, Nick Black wrote: > The purpose of the call on Saturday is to offer an additional channel of > communication around the license - its intended to supplement the mailing > lists and wiki Thanks, that’s what I expected to hear. > What I'd hope would come ou

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:21:01AM +, Rob Myers wrote: > coast of the US for example. But I've been involved in both of two > meetings where decisions arrived at in the morning were reversed in > the evening, and that didn't make the first group very happy at all. I think that, due to the inac

[OSM-talk] place=island rendering

2009-03-12 Thread Ted Mielczarek
I've noticed that there's a GNIS import going on in the USA recently, and one of the types of POIs being imported are islands, which are tagged place=island. Of course, the GNIS database contains some very tiny islands, but Mapnik renders place=island up to z10. For example: http://www.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-12 Thread Gregory Williams
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Miller [mailto:petermille...@googlemail.com] > Sent: 11 March 2009 14:00 > To: Gregory Williams > Cc: Daniel A Carleton; talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area? > > > On 11 Mar 2009, at 09:16, Gregory Williams wrote: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Cloudmade: "We are the Wikipedia of maps"

2009-03-12 Thread paul youlten
... never-the-less we should start tagging lamp-posts so we can easily find somewhere to hang those filthy cloudmade running dogs. ;-) > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Mark Boslet, the Editor of Techpulse360 has modified the article to "correct >> any misimpre

Re: [OSM-talk] Cloudmade: "We are the Wikipedia of maps"

2009-03-12 Thread 80n
Mark Boslet, the Editor of Techpulse360 has modified the article to "correct any misimpression". The title is now "OpenStreetMap wants to be the Wikipedia of Maps" and the body of the article now clearly distinguishes between CloudMade and us. 80n On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Frederik Ramm

[OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000 dataset

2009-03-12 Thread Ciprian Talaba
Hi all, I know the discussion lately have been towards agreeing about an OSM license, and probably this is not the best time to ask this question. But I came across Corine Land Cover 2000 datasets and I want to make sure that they can be use in OSM. The organization behind CLC 2000 is European

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - basin=infiltration

2009-03-12 Thread Michael
Hi, Ed Loach schrieb: > > > this is my second approach to get some votes for my proposal > > > basin=infiltration [1]. Until now I got two approvals. > > > Because the recommended period of two weeks ended yesterday I > > > extended > > > the voting period and would like to remind you of this > >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Spam] Re: License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Miller
On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:55, Nick Black wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: > In the past couple of license working group meetings we've been trying > to figure out how to get more input from the community on everything > without descending in t

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - basin=infiltration

2009-03-12 Thread Ed Loach
> this is my second approach to get some votes for my proposal > basin=infiltration [1]. Until now I got two approvals. > Because the recommended period of two weeks ended yesterday I > extended > the voting period and would like to remind you of this > proposal. Could you perhaps add an i

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM: Latest Working Group Meeting

2009-03-12 Thread Igor Shubovych
Now it works fine. 2009/3/12 Nick Black > Igor - it works for me. Try again maybe? > Nick > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Igor Shubovych > wrote: > >> Seems, Register button doesn't work. >> >> Regards, >> Igor >> >> 2009/3/11 Nick Black >> >>> Hello, >>> Full minutes of the latest SO

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - basin=infiltration

2009-03-12 Thread Michael
Hi all, this is my second approach to get some votes for my proposal basin=infiltration [1]. Until now I got two approvals. Because the recommended period of two weeks ended yesterday I extended the voting period and would like to remind you of this proposal. Cheers, Michael [1]: http://wiki.ope

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM: Latest Working Group Meeting

2009-03-12 Thread Nick Black
Igor - it works for me. Try again maybe? Nick On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Igor Shubovych wrote: > Seems, Register button doesn't work. > > Regards, > Igor > > 2009/3/11 Nick Black > >> Hello, >> Full minutes of the latest SOTM working group meeting are available here: >> http://docs.googl