Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Merging Guidelines

2009-08-18 Thread Roger Slevin
Bryce NaPTAN does not allow the character / to be part of a commonname as NaPTAN rules (not fully adhered to by TfL or LBSL) do not allow composite commonnames. Underground station entrances are included in NaPTAN data ... they are part of the 490 area data (whereas the stations themselves are

Re: [Talk-transit] pay_scale_area

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Morley
Christoph Böhme wrote: In my opinion the name tag is used as a general purpose tag in OSM for names of all sorts of things. So, it appeared quite natural to use it for recording the names of the plus bus zones as well. From the other tags renderers can easily guess what type of object the name

Re: [Talk-transit] NPTG locality viewer

2009-08-18 Thread Christoph Böhme
Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net schrieb: The NPTG viewer and the Novam tools are not working at the moment because a server update went wrong. So, don't be surprised when you see a 500 - Internal Server Error. I'll try to sort it out tonight. The NPTG viewer and the Novam tools are working

Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-08-18 Thread maning sambale
As promised, one gps trace from the delivery service company: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/485344 I edited some portions of Plutocrat's 1:50K topomap traced road. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2196308 On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM, maning

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Conventions of primary/secondary/tertiary

2009-08-18 Thread Luc Van den Troost
Hi Kenny, I think I vaguely know that road, the section you describe, and indeed it looks more like a very local road instead of a main road. As most connecting, and more important roads, are secondary, it might be wise to 'scale it down' to tertiary. I have been doing some mapping in the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Conventions of primary/secondary/tertiary

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Laenen
Kenny Moens wrote: Hello guys, On the wiki page the conventions for primary/secondary/tertiary roads are marked with question marks. Is there already a formal definition for those? Until now I've always applied these rules and they apply pretty good, however... some road I have problems with

[Talk-si] Označevanje odsekov cest

2009-08-18 Thread Damjan Gerli
Imam vprašanje glede označevanja odsekov cest. Ti so na terenu efektivno označeni in dolžina ceste, ki je označena za tablicah ob cesti, praktično začne z 0 pri novem odseku ceste. To sem opazil npr. na regionalni cesti R3 št. 617 kjer sem opazil dva odseka 1054 in 1055 (manjše številke črne

Re: [Talk-si] Označevanje odsekov cest

2009-08-18 Thread Miha
Jaz posameznih odsekov ne oznacujem, vpisem samo stevilko ceste, kategorizacijo, podlago (surface), source, kot je opisano na http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Sl:Map_Features . Podatek o samem odseku pa je verjetno zanimiv bolj za cestna podjetja, kot za navigacijo oz. kartografijo. LP,

Re: [Talk-si] Označevanje odsekov cest

2009-08-18 Thread Blaž Lorger
Lahko bi jih oznaceval ampak ne tako da zdruzis referenco in odsek. Namesto tega kar si predlagal: ref=617-1054 bi raje uporabil locene tage: ref=617 section=1054 Na ta nacin lahko v OSM shranis dodatno informacijo brez da povozis nacin kako so se ceste oznacevale do

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] copyright problem with datacopiedfrom a map

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Aug 2009, at 19:13, SteveC wrote: On 17 Aug 2009, at 11:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/17 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: You may wish to set up a Belgium equivalent for this page to act as a record of such reverts. As you can see we have been having some problems

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] copyright problem with datacopiedfrom a map

2009-08-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/08/09 09:27, Peter Miller wrote: Andy mentions that copyright violation needs to go to the Data Working Group. Why? Sure the foundation needs a log of action of copyright violations, but I don't see why the requested reverts, or 'plastering over the cracks' can't be put onto a public

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] copyright problemwith datacopiedfrom a map

2009-08-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/08/09 11:18, Peter Miller wrote: On 18 Aug 2009, at 10:30, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/08/09 09:27, Peter Miller wrote: Andy mentions that copyright violation needs to go to the Data Working Group. Why? Sure the foundation needs a log of action of copyright violations, but I don't see

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] copyright problemwith datacopiedfrom a map

2009-08-18 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: On 18 Aug 2009, at 10:30, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/08/09 09:27, Peter Miller wrote: Andy mentions that copyright violation needs to go to the Data Working Group. Why? Sure the foundation needs a log of action of

Re: [OSM-talk] Selecting cycleways

2009-08-18 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Cartinus wrote: On Monday 17 August 2009 16:17:36 Tobias Knerr wrote: OR highway is not null AND cycleway is not null You might want check for cycleway=no here, there are a few hundreds of them. You'd want to exclude cycleway=opposite as well, because that is just removing the oneway

[OSM-talk] server not rendering fully

2009-08-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I am setting up an India specific server with mod_tile and mapnik. I finally got the beast to work, but at higher zoom levels it is not rendering completely. Apparently it is giving up instead of generating the tiles fully. Obviously there is some setting I have to make in apache config

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread Liz
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: One of the goals of the meeting next week will be to set a timetable for getting local chapters set up, which will be largely dependent on how much we all agree / disagree in the call. Until then, please read over the Local Chapters wiki page and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] OPENSTREETMAP FOUNDATION - NOTICE OF ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan Baebler
It can easily happen that there are several very active OSM contributors employed by the same (larger) company. Company's primary business might not be OSM (or even GIS) related, it might just be large enough to gather enough geo geeks. Those people might work in various branches, possibly not

Re: [OSM-talk] Selecting cycleways

2009-08-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
Rahkonen Jukka wrote: Cartinus wrote: You'd want to exclude cycleway=opposite as well, because that is just removing the oneway restriction for bicycles. But isn't it still kind of a cycleway and thus worth making it visible on a cyclemap? I forgot cycleway=opposite in my first reply, but

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?

2009-08-18 Thread Someoneelse
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/dumps/ offers downloads of the raw data. Thanks - I'll have a look at that. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread Nick Black
John, I said: so if you can't make it but would like to, please add your name to the wiki so we can have a second call at a better time. No-one is trying to exclude you - especially not the people who are trying set up local groups and make OSM and the OSM-F more inclusive :-) If there are

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Aug 2009, at 09:17, Nick Black wrote: John, I said: so if you can't make it but would like to, please add your name to the wiki so we can have a second call at a better time. No-one is trying to exclude you - especially not the people who are trying set up local groups and make

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Körner
Lennard schrieb: Peter Körner wrote: It reaches 100% when /Tromelin Island /is set to not-ok. I got Bahasa Indonesia at 229/230 with 2 countries (Tromelin, Turkey) as not ok. This happened because some countries were degraded to states, so they don't show up in the list but are still

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Would a 'local chapters' email list not be a great way to include people from all around the world on different time zones for to include those for whom English is a second language? A combination of email list and wiki allow

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 07:40:15 am John Smith wrote: There seems to be more questions posed than answers in the minutes... Unfortunately with only 3 people in the conference it was not easy to take decisions. The next meeting is proposed for the 24th August at 18.00 - 19:30 BST. I know

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?

2009-08-18 Thread Mitja Kleider
Someoneelse wrote: Apollinaris Schoell wrote: there is something better already http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/ Is there a way of getting data out of that easily? If there is it would make sense to be able to convert bugs within an area to e.g. Garmin waypoints. Use the

Re: [OSM-talk] server not rendering fully

2009-08-18 Thread Lennard
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: I am setting up an India specific server with mod_tile and mapnik. I finally got the beast to work, but at higher zoom levels it is not rendering completely. Apparently it is giving up instead of generating the tiles fully. Obviously there is some setting I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
here's my thoughts. If object is no longer present we need some sort of ghost tagging, and the ghost tag take precedent when rendering. This means that the data that was present is still available, its useful data after all. Ideally there would be a start_date and end_date tag also that defines

Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclelane on left/right

2009-08-18 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
Jonas Häggqvist wrote: Norbert Hoffmann wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/14 Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com: Are there any progress on the left/right situation on cycleway=lane/track that are only on one side of the street? yes, there is a solution for cycleway=track. Map it

Re: [OSM-talk] copyright problem with data copied from a map

2009-08-18 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
Renaud MICHEL wrote: I replied one week ago explaining why he must not do that and asking him to remove all the edits he made based on that map, but had no more answer so far. So now I'm thinking about removing those edits myself, but am not sure what's the best way to do so. I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-18 Thread Hatto von Hatzfeld
Nop wrote: Hatto von Hatzfeld schrieb: Official is new and has only one meaning. From Map features: official is used for ways dedicated to a certain mode of travel by law. Usually indicated by a traffic sign. I really do not see where the use of designated has differed from this

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
Ideally there would be a start_date and end_date tag also that defines the period when the object was present. +1 This would make me very happy indeed; have even registered openpastmap.org in anticipation. Cheers, Joseph (an archaeologist, of sorts...) 2009/8/18 Andy Robinson

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Burning Man 08 doesn't require many tiles, so it's something Y! can probably render and hard code? Quick and dirty maybe and wouldn't scale, but it would be a start.  Also if the burning man event moves

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/8/18 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com: here's my thoughts. If object is no longer present we need some sort of ghost tagging, and the ghost tag take precedent when rendering. This means that the data that was present is still available, its useful data after all.

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual Country-List

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Körner
This is not possible at the moment, as the list is based upon the list of existing wikipedias [1]. Which language do you want to add? Send me the name, the code, and the link to an wiki article and i'll think about how to add it. Peter [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread simon
Ideally there would be a start_date and end_date tag also that defines the period when the object was present. +1 So, I think that the question is related to whether you want something in the current dataset to represent the things that were 'here' at a previous time or have a way of entering

Re: [OSM-talk] Link for editing via JOSM-remote-control-plugin

2009-08-18 Thread Alexander Menk
Mitja Kleider wrote: Alexander Menk wrote: can somebody add a link to open JOSM (localhost:8111) to http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/ ? Just use the JOSM remote bookmarklet, it works fine. http://blog.gegg.us/2009/07/bookmarklet-to-load-the-current-section-of-a-

[OSM-talk] Revert a changeset

2009-08-18 Thread Teemu Koskinen
Could somebody please revert this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2168210 The moving of the nodes across the Atlantic is obviously wrong. Regards Teemu Koskinen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
I imagined a system whereby the default rendered map page looked much the same as the current Mapnik example, the only difference being the addition of a second slide-bar that changed the temporal view. By default you'd look at the map of the present day, but by pulling the slide down (or

Re: [OSM-talk] copyright problem with data copied from a map

2009-08-18 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dkwrote: It is best to continue trying to educate mappers about the problems of copyright. I know from experience (working with Ubuntu) that it takes a lot of effort, but eventually you get there. Copyright is complicated, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread Nick Black
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote: On 18 Aug 2009, at 09:17, Nick Black wrote: John, I said: so if you can't make it but would like to, please add your name to the wiki so we can have a second call at a better time. No-one is trying to exclude

Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclelane on left/right

2009-08-18 Thread Konrad Skeri
tisdagen den 18 augusti 2009 13.45.24 skrev talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org: Are there any progress on the left/right situation on cycleway=lane/track that are only on one side of the street? yes, there is a solution for cycleway=track. Map it separately and tag highway=cycleway. track

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
I'll happily donate the openpastmap.org domain towards an attempt at this. Will *possibly* be able to get a VM or two, plus some bandwidth, through my employer, if we ask very nicely... ;-) Cheers, Joseph 2009/8/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: I also believe that historic data should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Mike N.nice...@att.net wrote: From: Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: Is 640x480 good enough? ;) ofcourse we want 1080p ;) is 640x480 good enough e.g to read street names and other signs?

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Erik Johansson schreef: Have you guys tried to take photos of signs with street names? We a lot of photos of that :) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread simon
From the Firewire camera link... -- A last thing you might consider: CMOS sensors (and some CCD but it is less efficient) have selectable 'regions of interrest' (ROI). This can increase the framerate dramatically with high-res cameras, or provide software pan/tilt by only sending an rectangular

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread simon
Check also the ContourHD camera :) We are also experimenting with that. Looks pretty sweet shame it doesn't have an external MIC input for recording (FSK'ed) telemetery data such as speed/lat/log/ele/etc. If they were really smart they would put a NMEA input port and have this stored as

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/16 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I'd recommend synchronising this with wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_railway A lot of work has been done there between the various types of model/miniature railway,

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Aug 2009, at 17:47, Peter Childs wrote: 2009/8/16 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I'd recommend synchronising this with wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_railway A lot of work has been done there between

Re: [OSM-talk] copyright problem with data copied from a map

2009-08-18 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Hello Le mardi 18 août 2009 à 13:55, Morten Kjeldgaard a écrit : Educating mappers so they fully understand the free-and-open principles means that they in turn can teach others, and everyone saves time in the end. Throwing the book at this fellow is too harsh at this point. You can email

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread simon
From: Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com   I took that yesterday from a helmet cam 1280 X 720.   Generally I cannot read street signs across the street.   This one is partially blurred by motion. Just a thought on this... do you know which frame of the GOP this is from. I frames

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 si...@mungewell.org schreef: Using a decent mount (ie. DIY steady cam ideas) and in-built image stablization in the camera may help. Check also the ContourHD camera :) We are also experimenting with that. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclelane on left/right

2009-08-18 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: I know Jonas has some examples on how nice it looks when you use the cycleway=track on an osmarendered map (mapnik doesn't use the tag). Perhaps you can post those as an illustration, Jonas? For example here: http://osm.org/go/0H8UF1OW?layers=0B00FTF I do somewhat

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 si...@mungewell.org schreef: Check also the ContourHD camera :) We are also experimenting with that. Looks pretty sweet shame it doesn't have an external MIC input for recording (FSK'ed) telemetery data such as speed/lat/log/ele/etc. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 si...@mungewell.org schreef: From the Firewire camera link... -- A last thing you might consider: CMOS sensors (and some CCD but it is less efficient) have selectable 'regions of interrest' (ROI). This can increase the framerate dramatically

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread Mike N.
Just a thought on this... do you know which frame of the GOP this is from. I frames would be the clearest, followed by P and then B. The issue of blur may be able be reduced if your camera has a sports or fast shutter mode. I played with the jog mode, but could not find a clearer view in

Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam] Revert a changeset

2009-08-18 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/8/18 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 18 Aug 2009, at 14:57, Teemu Koskinen wrote: Could somebody please revert this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2168210 The moving of the nodes across the Atlantic is obviously wrong. Do check out this page for

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/18 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 18 Aug 2009, at 17:47, Peter Childs wrote: 2009/8/16 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I'd recommend synchronising this with wikipedia

[OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-18 Thread Tijs Zwinkels
Hey All, As of yesterday, the Google Summer of Code has ended. With some appropriate pride, I offer you signFinder: http://code.google.com/p/signfinder/ . As part of the OpenStreetPhoto project, this program detects, segments, and reads dutch street-signs. For high-quality pictures (and not too

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Peter Childspchi...@bcs.org wrote: Are Miniture Railways a British Thing, or is it that they appear most often in the Uk? (Making us Brits a load of Train enthusiasts) they used to be quite widespread in italy when i was young, and I know at least one in my town

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

2009-08-18 Thread Jack Stringer
DSLR - The Canon 50D has HD video with manual focus. Which would record high quality shots. Video - I borrowed a camera from a friend the other day, it was a helmet cam kit from dogcam it has a small colour camera unit that you put on the helmet or bike/car. It also has a seperate unit that

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Jack Stringer
I was thinking of mapping some of the festival sites around here as we have the Glastonbury festival and if iphone and g1 users could navagate around all the food places and stages it would be a grate help to them. On Aug 18, 2009 4:44 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: I'll happily

Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam] Revert a changeset

2009-08-18 Thread Teemu Koskinen
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:48:03 +0300, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/18 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 18 Aug 2009, at 14:57, Teemu Koskinen wrote: Could somebody please revert this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2168210 The moving

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Körner
Hi As I guessed the bug with the 100% comes from countries that aren't countries anymore. They are removed from the list with the hourly update, but if you got your list open while this happens you can still mark it as ok. so we got a country that only exists in this language - and more than

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Körner
Whooohoow this is so cool! Looks like a lot of Voodoo to me :) As I saw from the samples It doesn't work well on blurred images, so it won't work with sth. like a helmet or a car camera, would it? Peter Tijs Zwinkels schrieb: Hey All, As of yesterday, the Google Summer of Code has ended.

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Mikel Maron
Agreed! start_date and end_date are best. Suppose for Burning Man, I can just go ahead and use these tags, and whatever bad result comes out can be used as motivation for the main rendering systems to tweak their processing (ie add an osmosis step) to deal with this. Or with updated

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Peter Körner schreef: Whooohoow this is so cool! Looks like a lot of Voodoo to me :) As I saw from the samples It doesn't work well on blurred images, so it won't work with sth. like a helmet or a car camera, would it? Camera's are not by

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: I suggest that conference calls and IRC are only used for those issues where email is not working or getting to an resolution on a difficult subject. +1 Telephone calls are too intrusive. Someone might have to pick up their child from school at the time you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List

2009-08-18 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/8/18 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Namely they are http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424313867 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424317578 which are both islands now. By the way i added http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/25342325 (Alderney) which was

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Körner
andrzej zaborowski schrieb: 2009/8/18 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Namely they are http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424313867 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424317578 which are both islands now. By the way i added

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-18 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:02:07 +0200, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Peter Körner schreef: Whooohoow this is so cool! Looks like a lot of Voodoo to me :) As I saw from the samples It doesn't work well on blurred images, so it won't

Re: [OSM-talk] [Maps-l] Announcemen: Multilingual Country-List

2009-08-18 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Peter Körner wrote: (Montenegro is still missing) It seems there is no node for it. Searching if with the Namefinder doesn't bring up a node. I'd need a node id to add it to the list. I think it's 445970763 -- Marcin Cieslak // sa...@saper.info signature.asc

[OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-18 Thread Steve Hill
I looked on the wiki but couldn't see anything... Is there any suggested way of marking up turn restrictions for individual lanes of a road to enable sat navs to provide lane guidance (e.g. keep right, move into the left lane, etc)? -- - Steve xmpp:st...@nexusuk.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: I think a Gauge=width (in mm I guess) is worth adding. Why not just use width=* which is already in use for a lot of other things? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: Are Miniture Railways a British Thing, or is it that they appear most often in the Uk? (Making us Brits a load of Train enthusiasts) There seems to be a number of them around Australia as well, some have a lot of track, eg 4km of 5 and

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Stephen Hope
I am hoping in a couple of weeks to map the grounds at a festival that occurs yearly in the same spot. This is not so much historical data, as data that's only true for three weeks a year. The rest of the time, it's just fields, with a few items (some toilets, etc) that stay in place year round.

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually time and space is the 4th dimension :) People already want editors that can handle 3D, not just 2D so they can map out complex buildings and very complex roads that overlap each other and so forth. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Stephen Hopeslh...@gmail.com wrote: I am hoping in a couple of weeks to map the grounds at a festival that occurs yearly in the same spot. This is not so much historical data, as data that's only true for three weeks a year. The rest of the time, it's just

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, ok then, 4D. And yes, in the short-term I guess the editor could download data from *all time* - but *eventually* the API will need to support this kind of bounding box including a time limit, because the length of the time

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:43 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Most data in historic information is very tiny areas, most of the data will be only current information. It seems we have different ideas about the scope of this proposal, then. I thought the implication was that in

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: This would lead to massive amounts of historic information into the future - i.e. nothing that has been correctly mapped need ever be deleted. Even so, this would be a minority of data, the majority of roads rarely if ever

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:34 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: This would lead to massive amounts of historic information into the future - i.e. nothing that has been correctly mapped need ever be deleted. Even so,

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Roy Wallacewaldo000...@gmail.com wrote: But anyway, can we move on? I'm simply saying we should look at this as what it really is - extending OSM to the time dimension. Apologies everyone, I hadn't noticed the following existing proposal. Please have a look

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] webpagina

2009-08-18 Thread Lambertus
Lambertus wrote: Maar goed, het probleem van de beperkte GPX export is opgelost. Je kunt nu virtueel oneindig lange routes exporteren. Oeps, dan moet je natuurlijk de productie versie wel synchroniseren met SVN... Ok, nu dan echt. ___ Talk-nl

[OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation Board 2009 verkiezing t/m a.s. donderdag

2009-08-18 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Tot en met donderdag kan er nog gestemd worden voor de nieuwe Foundation Board dus als je OSMF lid bent kijk dan nog even op: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM09/Election_to_Board Stemmen kan persoonlijk tijdens Annual General Meeting of via de mail. Groet, Floris

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Google Summer of Code 2009 - signFinder.

2009-08-18 Thread Tijs Zwinkels
Hallo Iedereen, vanaf gisteren is de Google Summer of Code officieel afgelopen. Via deze weg wil ik iedereen bedanken voor de reacties, ideeen, en natuurlijk de felbegeerde straatnaamborden! ;) Er is nu een product dat straatnaamborden detecteert, segmenteert, en leest. Met name in

[OSM-talk-nl] Taggen voor Topologie mag dat?

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hoi, Momenteel ben ik alle haltes van de metro aan het splitten. Ik hoop daarmee uiteindelijk de metro routes 'netjes' en volledig in relaties te krijgen. En voorlopig de afstanden te kunnen meten. Momenteel waren alle routes getekend

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Taggen voor Topologie mag dat?

2009-08-18 Thread Frank Steggink
Stefan de Konink wrote: Momenteel ben ik alle haltes van de metro aan het splitten. Ik hoop daarmee uiteindelijk de metro routes 'netjes' en volledig in relaties te krijgen. En voorlopig de afstanden te kunnen meten. Momenteel waren alle routes getekend (onderandere door Paulbe) als continue

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Taggen voor Topologie mag dat?

2009-08-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Frank Steggink schreef: Eventueel zou OSM ervoor kunnen kiezen om relaties aan delen van ways (tussen twee knooppunten) te koppelen, maar volgens mij haal je je dan meer problemen op de hals. Ideaal is het toevoegen van routerelaties in ieder

[talk-au] Nambour Mapping Party

2009-08-18 Thread Liz
There has been great work here related in Ash Kyd's diary. I've had a quiet whisper that someone in Sydney wishes a mapping party be organised - well you've got a lot to aim for now! I live about 600km from Sydney so am not available to organise a mapping party in Sydney. But next time I have

Re: [talk-au] Nambour Mapping Party

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I've had a quiet whisper that someone in Sydney wishes a mapping party be I should do a write up on the wiki on how I organised the Nambour mapping party, it technically would be possible for anyone to organise a mapping party anywhere,

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread BlueMM
John Smith-129 wrote: --- On Mon, 17/8/09, BlueMM bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: But my point was if they *are* consistent (same shield design), why specify state? Consistent to what? Some states have gone to a alphanumeric system, some use the old NH shields and those with the

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread Liz
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, BlueMM wrote: That website appears inaccurate. It says the state route marker is no longer used in Vic, but there is a route with that marker a block away from me right now. Also, the M1/7 example appears wrong, AFAIK, the one used in VIC is more like the NSW one, without

[talk-au] Minor Highways

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
I couldn't find the email Liz wrote about it, but I've just created a ref relation for the Gwydir Highway, as a result I can't see a good reason for 2 relations in this case. In the case of the A1 in QLD that's a diff matter as the A1 is more than just one highway. Can anyone think of a good

Re: [talk-au] maps.bigtincan.com

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
The server is currently en route to the data centre and will be back up shortly, it took longer than expected for this to happen due to things outside our control. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] maps.bigtincan.com

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
Server is now back up and running, and instead of being in a virtual it is now on the server itself, quad core xeon with 4G of ram and scsi 10k hdd's, so it should be a tad faster :) Because it was offline for a few days it's still catching up with OSM change files and is about 14 or so hours

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
I'm going to be adding Tourist Route Shields to the map shortly but in the process of looking for a graphic I came across this page on wikipedia: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Route_shields_of_Australia It lists shields for a number of things like Alt National Route, and on one of

[talk-au] Bruce Highway... A1 only or A1+M1 ?

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
Can anyone from Brisbane confirm this. As far as I can tell the Bruce Highway which starts just after the Gateway Motorway ends north of Brisbane and is only tagged A1, however both wikipedia and ozroads think the Bruce Highway is signed as M1 as far north as Cooroy. All the signs on the dual

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread b . schulz . 10
D roads certainly do exist, however at times the signs are covered over/folded up etc. The one I know for certain is a Pacific Highway detour which heads West from Nabiac and goes up to Krambach: http://osm.org/go/uaQzXe_ After that I don't know where it goes. There's a D sign at this

[Talk-de] ÖPNV-Schema: aktueller Status / wei tere Schritte?

2009-08-18 Thread Gernot Hillier
Hallo zusammen! Da ich in den letzten Tagen aus purem Eigennutz ;) das U-Bahn-Netz von Barcelona erfasst habe, frage ich mich jetzt, ob ich die Vorschläge von Oxoma (also das neue ÖPNV-Schema von http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/ÖPNV-Schema) schon verwenden will. Wie ist denn

[Talk-de] Routen-Relationen für Bahn-Kursbuchst recken

2009-08-18 Thread Gernot Hillier
Hallo nochmal! Als Pendler spiele ich mit dem Gedanken, mal meine Kursbuchstrecke (Landshut-München) mit entsprechenden Routen-Relationen zu erfassen. Jetzt frage ich mich nur, wie man das sinnvoll macht. Der Gleiskörper zwischen Landshut und München ist schon sehr gut erfasst - z.B. sind

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