2009/9/24 Mikel Maron :
> Note OSM can qualify for non-profit pricing on imagery, which can take the
> cost down to $12/km2. This is what we arranged for the Gaza imagery.
How was the imagery hosted, and what software was used to generate
vector data from this?
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walking-papers.org is dead?
some time ago I can not upload sanners,
anyone know anything about this?
salu2
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Mike Harris wrote:
> Statements are almost or completely empty for hundreds of paths - sometimes
> not a single path in a parish has a meaningful Definitive Statement! This
> is an illegal state of affairs but that is simply the case and cannot now
> be changed (other than by a
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Mike Harris wrote:
> The second issue is that the text uses OS GRs throughout - so what is the
> status as a derivative work?
it mentions grid references but gives enough detail from the road names,
places of gates and number of metres to be walked that you could find that
ro
Still the Council's budget though - so don't hold your breath - my lot can
only afford a couple of cheap units although they are trying to get the
funds for a top-of-the-range ±1m jobby!
Mike Harris
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com]
> Sent: 25 Septemb
Lucky you - I have never seen a Definitive Statement that is that detailed -
in fact it is not a Definitive Statement (upon which the original Definitive
Map will have been based)! It is the text of a Definitive Map Modification
Order making a specific amendment to a specific path or paths (in this
Jon makes a good point about the Definitive Statement - at least in
principle - indeed it is the process I described in an earlier message to
this thread describing how the Definitive Maps were originally created.
There is a big 'but' though - from my own experience the Definitive
Statements are al
Mike Harris wrote:
> There may be a misunderstanding here - the Definitive Map is a legal
> document and was (in almost all cases produced a long time ago -
> interesting thought in passing - if it is 50 years old would it be out
> of copyright! The initiating legislation is the National Parks a
+1
The 'definitive statement' is the only thing from the local authority that we
can really use, but that is surprisingly detailed. Here's an example of a path
modification in Cambridgeshire
"The above Order made on 30 May 2006, if confirmed as made, will modify the
Definitive Map and Statement f
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> Nope. That way is not closed. A closed way is a way has the *same*
> starting and ending nodes, not a starting and an ending node that
> happen to have identical coordinates. So the way is still broken, but
> the bot's fix (duplicated nodes) is correct for the partic
Nope. That way is not closed. A closed way is a way has the *same* starting
and ending nodes, not a starting and an ending node that happen to have
identical coordinates. So the way is still broken, but the bot's fix
(duplicated nodes) is correct for the particular bug the bot is fixing.
On Sat, S
Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather
quiet.
Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009, we
have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on
track to make our final formal license change proposal to OSMF mem
There may be a misunderstanding here - the Definitive Map is a legal
document and was (in almost all cases produced a long time ago - interesting
thought in passing - if it is 50 years old would it be out of copyright! The
initiating legislation is the National Parks and Access to the Countryside
A
Dave
I don't think you can "transfer" the paths from the definitive map - they
get there by being a GIS layer superimposed on and rectified to the OS base
mapping even though they may have been separately surveyed (which I rather
doubt). The dates of most original definitive maps are such that GPS
If your HA supplies you with a copy of e.g. the definitive map (physical or
electronic) you will almost certainly find that it is watermarked with their
logo (and possibly with an OS licence statement). So I don't think we can
use the base mapping but we can use the information about the rights of
I do not work FOR a Highway Authority but I do work very closely WITH one.
My HA's view is much as Dave F reports - there is no copyright for the
rights of way (we the great unwashed public own them) and the data on
definitive maps and their electronic equivalents held or published by the HA
is fre
... At least I don't spend all my time on OSM - sometimes I'm one of those
guys who puts the waymarks in place (sometimes after walking down the wrong
side of the hedge because the by OS 1:25k has a registration error (or
is just plain wrong!). I do always try to orient the waymark with enough
Pieren wrote:
> and the fix is also wrong...
>
> Pieren
>
>
>
What am I not understanding?
It's a rectangle which has four points. The way lists five nodes, the
first & last the values of which are the same therefore making it closed.
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Gary68 wrote:
> in a closed way the first and the last node must be the same your
> example is an error.
>
Yes, it seems it is only touching buildings, maybe created by a
previous import because they contain a tag "ID". The original way has
the same node twice at
in a closed way the first and the last node must be the same your
example is an error.
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 17:49 +0200, Pieren wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> A bot running under the user name "BugBuster "is currently modifying
> many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice, e.g.
> http://www.opens
Pieren wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> A bot running under the user name "BugBuster "is currently modifying
> many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice, e.g.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31604969/history
>
> Is it not normal that a closed way has the same node twice in the list?
>
> regar
Another bad thing about that bot is that it is producing a changeset
for each edit, with nearly 10 changesets per minute.
On 25 Sep 2009, at 16:49, Pieren wrote:
Dear list,
A bot running under the user name "BugBuster "is currently modifying
many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice, e.
Dear list,
A bot running under the user name "BugBuster "is currently modifying
many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice, e.g.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31604969/history
Is it not normal that a closed way has the same node twice in the list ?
regards
Pieren
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Chris Hill wrote:
>Sent: 25 September 2009 4:02 PM
>To: OSM Talk
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?
>
>Dave F. wrote:
>> Chris Hill wrote:
>>
>>> Dave F. wrote:
>>>
>>>
Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> I had an e
It does seem that what is needed here is not the definitive map but rather
the survey data the two surveyors gathered. As others have said if that data
has been overlain onto an OS map there is no way of knowing what is derived
and what is not. Not unless the bod from the council is prepared to sti
Chris Hill wrote:
>Sent: 25 September 2009 3:08 PM
>To: OSM Talk
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?
>
>Dave F. wrote:
>> Tom Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
>>>
>>>
I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
council. He intimated t
Dave F. wrote:
> Chris Hill wrote:
>
>> Dave F. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Tom Hughes wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
> I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
> council. He intimat
On 25/09/2009 14:30, Dave F. wrote:
> I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
> council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way,
> and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When
> they make a legal order to record a public right
Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 25/09/09 14:30, Dave F. wrote:
>
>> The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay,
>> but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info.
>> eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce
>> the definitive m
On 25 Sep 2009, at 15:27, Dave F. wrote:
Chris Hill wrote:
Dave F. wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of
way,
and its associated c
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mikel Maron wrote:
> Map Warper
>
> http://warper.geothings.net/
>
> open source, and uses OpenStreetMap for setting of control points.
And then take the geotiffs that come out of it and use mapnik's
rastersymbolizer with generate_tiles.py to make a stack of tiles
>You bring up a point that I think needs expanding on for clarification.
>I decide where I'm going to go for a walk by looking at a combination of
>my OS and OSM maps.
>I look for /indications /of rights of way on my OS map. Initially this
>is the only evidence I have.
>If I see it's not indicate
Chris Hill wrote:
> Dave F. wrote:
>
>> Tom Hughes wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way,
and its as
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 25/09/09 14:30, Dave F. wrote:
The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay,
but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info.
eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce
the definitive maps.
Do you
> What matters most is what you copied from, GPS trace or someone
> else's
> map, I would genuinely be surprised if you could be in breach
> of
> copyright for just looking at a map or using information for
> journey
> planning based on a map.
What was the rule of thumb at university? One source =
Dave F. wrote:
> Tom Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
>>> council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way,
>>> and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Counci
colliar wrote:
>I am quite new here.
>I made a mistake while uploading my changes onto the server. grrr
>
>How can I undo these changes?
>
>I am using josm.
The wiki sometimes is helpful.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Undo
BTW: If there are users who can run undo-scripts (or something like
On 25/09/09 14:30, Dave F. wrote:
> The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay,
> but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info.
> eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce
> the definitive maps.
Do you know for abso
Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
>
>> I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
>> council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way,
>> and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When
>> they make a legal order
On 25 Sep 2009, at 13:58, malenki wrote:
You are right (except that I have uploaded ~2k pictures. Meanwhile 376
seem to exist for the counter :) )
I wonder how I cam to "Moderating" loggin in before, since there is no
hint how to get there now. After all, I took the URL from the history
of th
> > Usually there will be ~100mtres for this where you can
> > change at any time, but in OSM you have to decide on one merging
> > point.
>
>
I haven't seen a proposed scheme yet that really deals with this
> properly, they pretty much all pretend that a lane starts at a point.
> Personally I don'
John McKerrell wrote:
>On 23 Sep 2009, at 20:16, malenki wrote:
>
>> John McKerrell wrote:
>>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2009, at 17:44, malenki wrote:
>>>
| There was an error saving your changes
>>> Odd, I'll take a look, can you paste the URL to the thumbnail to
>>> help me identify it?
>>
>> Imp
On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
> I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
> council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way,
> and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When
> they make a legal order to record a public right
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Rob wrote:
> 2009/9/24 Ian Dees :
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ian Dees
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Matt Williams
>>> wrote:
Take a look at http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/,
http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/s
2009/9/25 Dave F. :
> Is this a breach of copyright?
I've already been in a similar discussion about using google maps to
plan routes, some suggest this is breach of copyright, but then anyone
using a map for any reason would be in breach of copyright so I doubt
this is true, copying from a map d
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
>>> I believe Andy R is. Field boundaries would also be a great help in the
>>>
> 3D
>
>>> navigation stuff I'm working on.
>>>
>>> I think most people who map the countryside do map gates and stiles
>>>
> btw.
>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> We d
This is a continuation of the thread [OSM-talk] Field boundaries,
specifically the message on the 25th at 10:42
I started a new one because it would stray from the original topic.
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
"Just to check, and apologies if I'm telling you the complete obvious: make
sure that the OS
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Lennard wrote:
> Dave F. wrote:
>
>>> Personally, I don't think these should be rendered on the main maps,
>> osmarender:renderRef is a tag to prevent rendering.
>
> I said 'maps', plural. One renderer's trick of not showing certain
> features is certainly the wro
Dave F. wrote:
>> Personally, I don't think these should be rendered on the main maps,
> osmarender:renderRef is a tag to prevent rendering.
I said 'maps', plural. One renderer's trick of not showing certain
features is certainly the wrong approach to this.
>> and they should not be made up by
Dave F. wrote:
> Would they not be essential for routing software?
Routing software by its nature will preprocess the OSM data: you'd be insane
to route over raw OSM data (though I'm sure someone's doing it). Gosmore,
for example, preprocesses it into .pak files.
As part of that, the routing sof
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Thanks to all for your replies.
Lennard wrote:
> Personally, I don't think these should be rendered on the main maps,
osmarender:renderRef is a tag to prevent rendering.
> and they should not be made up by us if there is no real ref on the ground.
>
>
Would they not be essential for routing so
On 22/09/2009, at 10:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2009/9/22 Anthony :
>> It is possible to represent different surfaces and different
>> maxspeeds
>> without using more than one way. "maxspeed:lane=130;110";
>> "surface:lane=asphalt;concrete". That's not necessarily the best
>> solutio
>>I believe Andy R is. Field boundaries would also be a great help in the
3D
>> navigation stuff I'm working on.
>
>> I think most people who map the countryside do map gates and stiles
btw.
>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>We do,
I know, because I'm one of them ;-)
>but sometimes that's not quite enough. I h
2009/9/24 Ian Dees :
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ian Dees wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Matt Williams
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Take a look at http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/,
>>> http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/stats.php and
>>> http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/ma
Cartinus wrote:
> We (should) map what is there. So the real question is: Do sliproads between
> trunk roads actually have a ref in the real world?
>
> If I'm not mistaken, then they don't have one around here (the Netherlands).
They do, at least between motorways. They are usually numbered the
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