Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Simon Poole
We naturally already have fairly extensive user rankings, see odbl.de. While the numbers there have become essentially useless over time for the whole relicensing complex, they are very nice current user rankings, and because of the way the numbers are determined, force you to continue to be act

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Stephan Knauss
Simon Poole writes: We naturally already have fairly extensive user rankings, see odbl.de. This is a ranking which counts who was the last one touching an object. As Maurizio already pointed out this is not too meaningful as it says nothing about the quality of edits. If I want to have a hig

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
I think this user ranking principle / ranking discussion is very unhealthy. OSM is not a game with points for every node we shoot ! Common, become an adult and map to give to the world and have a good time yourself. And if you go outside with your GPS you have a free workout too. Gert -Oo

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Simon Poole
I don't think I even remotely implied that the ranking on odbl.de was fair, just simply that it exists and is in use. And. naturally any "fair" ranking should take in to account the time spent creating and editing web pages, answering questions (irc and help) and many other things Simon

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/08/11 01:20, SteveC wrote: There are a bunch of people asking things on twitter about OSM that we miss. I don't think that we should encourage that. Call me old-fashioned but to me this is as if you were saying: "There's a lot of people asking things in pubs about OSM that we miss.

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/08/11 09:42, Simon Poole wrote: We naturally already have fairly extensive user rankings, see odbl.de. Or http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html which has been around as long as I can think. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing lis

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Or http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html which has been around > as long as I can think. But this page only shows objects creation. Someone fixing a wrong highway classification and/or adding a street name is not appearing on th

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Tobias Knerr
Simon Poole wrote: > And. naturally any "fair" ranking should take in to account the time > spent creating and > editing web pages, answering questions (irc and help) and many other > things It should also include real-world communications and advertising the project. A mapper who manages to

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hi Gert, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen writes: I think this user ranking principle / ranking discussion is very unhealthy. Are you saying that the discussion itself is unhealthy or the idea of rankings is unhealthy? While I could agree that rankings can cause harm I believe t

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Mike N
On 9/8/2011 4:40 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 09/08/11 01:20, SteveC wrote: There are a bunch of people asking things on twitter about OSM that we miss. I don't think that we should encourage that. Call me old-fashioned but to me this is as if you were saying: "There's a lot of people aski

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
There's no automated user ranking system I can think of that will distinguish http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:West_Harrisburg.jpg from valid mapping. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
SteveC schrieb: I'm looking for a solution. Mozilla has this: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/army-of-awesome and I'm in touch with them to see if the src is available. The code is available for sure, and AFAIK with a permissive license (BSD or such). I connected Steve with the person at Mo

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/9/8 Mike N : >  Retweeting can be automated by keywords in your twitter client, and doesn't > have to waste time. well, would waste the time of who reads it ;-) Actually not all #osm tweets seem to be related to Openstreetmap, at least currently there is a lot about a concert hall: "Someone

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/9/8 Simon Poole : > We naturally already have fairly extensive user rankings, see odbl.de. I guess most of these lists are headed by importers, so I don't see much value in them. Mapping effort is very hard to measure and lists about object creation tend to put the armchair mappers in advant

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Steve Coast
I don't think you're part of the twitter generation then Fred :-) It turns out a lot of people use it, and Facebook, and there will be more. To ignore them is silly. Steve stevecoast.com On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 09/08/11 01:20, SteveC wrote: >> There are a

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Fleming
On 08/09/2011 00:20, SteveC wrote: There are a bunch of people asking things on twitter about OSM that we miss. Or people saying nice things that we should be retweeting. I'm looking for a solution. Mozilla has this: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/army-of-awesome and I'm in touch with them

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Meisser
Am Donnerstag, den 08.09.2011, 15:43 +0100 schrieb Chris Fleming: > I have a saved openstreetmap twitter search and keep an eye on it. I > think only twice I've actually replied to people looking for help on > opensteetmap most of it's people talking about osm or various bots. > Similar for me,

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread SteveC
Chris * Remote searches aren't guaranteed to be accurate. Therefore you're probably missing posts. I do all the time. * There are lots of search terms, OSM, openstreetmap, #openstreetmap, open streetmap, open street map ... Therefore you're probably missing posts. * Chicken and egg. No OSM answ

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Fleming
On 08/09/2011 16:20, SteveC wrote: Chris * Remote searches aren't guaranteed to be accurate. Therefore you're probably missing posts. I do all the time. * There are lots of search terms, OSM, openstreetmap, #openstreetmap, open streetmap, open street map ... Therefore you're probably missing

Re: [OSM-talk] Has JOSM become clunkier?

2011-09-08 Thread Josh Doe
I've noticed a similar slowdown, but haven't gotten a chance to see what's causing it. -Josh On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > Since I updated to the last tested version, JOSM has been slower to respond. > For example, after I download from the XAPI relation[network=US:AL]

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Josh Doe
> On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> On 09/08/11 01:20, SteveC wrote: >>> There are a bunch of people asking things on twitter about OSM that we >>> miss. >> >> I don't think that we should encourage that. Call me old-fashioned but to me >> this is as if you were saying: "There's a

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Mikel Maron
> It turns out a lot of people use it, and Facebook, and there will be more. To > ignore them is silly. > >I agree, I think it's being out of touch with reality to ignore >Twitter and Facebook, whether or not it's the best medium or what you >personally think of it. And the comment comparing thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects / possible data source

2011-09-08 Thread Erik Lundin
I don't know if I have got this discussion wrong, but I have seen at least two community projects that are trying to build databases of locations of different wireless networks: http://openbmap.org/ and http://opencellid.org/ / Erik [1] http://opencellid.org/ 2011-08-07 23:50, John Smith skr

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/08/2011 05:20 PM, SteveC wrote: * Chicken and egg. No OSM answers supplied today - so why would there be lots of questions? +1 to Mikel: Let's answer questions by pointing people to our existing support infrastructure; not by trying to create another support infrastructure (one of

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread SteveC
On 9/8/2011 11:30 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 09/08/2011 05:20 PM, SteveC wrote: * Chicken and egg. No OSM answers supplied today - so why would there be lots of questions? +1 to Mikel: Let's answer questions by pointing people to our existing support infrastructure; not by trying to cre

[OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread Thomas Davie
Hi, Today I experimented with using OSM maps on my Garmin sat-nav. The one thing that I noticed was that roundabouts do not work well. The problem seems to be the slip roads entering the roundabout. The sat-nav recognises them as a roundabout in themself, and because of that gives some fairly

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Hill
On 08/09/11 19:48, Thomas Davie wrote: Hi, Today I experimented with using OSM maps on my Garmin sat-nav. The one thing that I noticed was that roundabouts do not work well. The problem seems to be the slip roads entering the roundabout. The sat-nav recognises them as a roundabout in themse

[OSM-talk] Who's using the torrents?

2011-09-08 Thread ant
Hi, torrents for planet files are available here: http://osm-torrent.torres.voyager.hr/ I'm curious about how this is utilized. Have you ever used the torrents? Do you use them regularly? Do you seed? I've picked the most recent torrents, counting: planet-110907: 1 seeder planet-110831: 5 se

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Hughes
On 08/09/11 19:48, Thomas Davie wrote: 1) Don't tag sliproads onto roundabouts as junction=roundabout, instead use some other tagging scheme. Not greatly desirable because it involves a *whole* lot of retagging. Well who on earth is doing that? and why? I've certainly never tagged roads enter

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread Steve Coast
+1 Steve From: Tom Hughes Sent: 9/8/2011 1:27 PM To: Thomas Davie Cc: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing On 08/09/11 19:48, Thomas Davie wrote: > 1) Don't tag sliproads onto roundabouts as junction=roundabout, instead > use some other tagging scheme. Not greatly desirable be

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/09/2011 20:27, Tom Hughes wrote: On 08/09/11 19:48, Thomas Davie wrote: 1) Don't tag sliproads onto roundabouts as junction=roundabout, instead use some other tagging scheme. Not greatly desirable because it involves a *whole* lot of retagging. Well who on earth is doing that? and why?

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/09/2011 16:16, Matthias Meisser wrote: The @OpenStreetMap account has over 6000 followers (although a good number are certainly spam) and I would like to see a bit more posting than when there is a blog posting and the occasional retweet. So interesting press coverage or uses of OSM, etc.

Re: [OSM-talk] Who's using the torrents?

2011-09-08 Thread Phil! Gold
* ant [2011-09-08 21:13 +0200]: > I'm curious about how this is utilized. Have you ever used the > torrents? Do you use them regularly? Do you seed? I use them regularly. I use the RSS feed to auto-download the torrent files and then seed them until the next week's files are out. It's kind of c

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings

2011-09-08 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 08.09.2011 12:54, Tobias Knerr wrote: Instead of rankings for individual contributors, I prefer attempts to measure progress towards meaningful goals. A "completion" statistic for road names, for example, does encourage mappers to work towards the goal, but at the same time _encourages coopera

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread SomeoneElse
Thomas Davie wrote: Proposed solutions (all of which are horrible): 1) Don't tag sliproads onto roundabouts as junction=roundabout, instead use some other tagging scheme. Not greatly desirable because it involves a *whole* lot of retagging. 2) Ask garmin to fix it (doesn't sound likely). 3)

[OSM-talk] Pre SOTM gathering

2011-09-08 Thread Gregory Arenius
Are there any pre-SOTM gatherings going on this evening? Or failing that can anybody recommend a brewery to get one going at? Cheers, Greg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Pre SOTM gathering

2011-09-08 Thread SteveC
blake street sports/dive bar for the NFL is where many are headed On 9/8/2011 3:40 PM, Gregory Arenius wrote: Are there any pre-SOTM gatherings going on this evening? Or failing that can anybody recommend a brewery to get one going at? Cheers, Greg __

Re: [OSM-talk] Pre SOTM gathering

2011-09-08 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Gregory Arenius wrote: > Are there any pre-SOTM gatherings going on this evening?  Or failing that > can anybody recommend a brewery to get one going at? what I've heard is: >From 6pm Blake Street Tavern http://osm.org/go/T2JibxIG?m __

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 9/8/2011 3:45 PM, David Earl wrote: The problem is exacerbated because many of these were done as a single one way which comes off the roundabout and then turns almost 180 deg. and rejoins roundabout. Example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4565106 This is certainly no good, since

[OSM-talk] Goverments releasing data under PDDL

2011-09-08 Thread Paul Norman
Is anyone aware of a list of governments which are releasing datasets under the PDDL? So far I am aware of Surrey, BC (http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx) Township of Langley, BC (http://www.tol.ca/ServicesContact/OpenData.aspx) City of Winnipeg, MB (http://api.winnipegtransit.com/)