e associated
with both dust and more solid compaction of the surface layer. So while
'ground' may be a useful holdall where the exact nature is not known,
but it is not a mechanically finished surface, it should be replaced
with a more accurate designation for which 'dirt' is simply another
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On 25/08/15 17:24, Tom MacWright wrote:
It seems like the only thing you're contributing is negativity.
http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/OSM+Development
Not that I've got all the latest crib sheets working yet :(
Last system I had fully functional was on an SUSE 12.3
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as separate thread, some not, and
so the mess goes on.
Sometimes I can hit 'reply to list' and just get the list address other
times it's 'reply all' and find the list as a 'cc' so it's not the list
which has a problem ... it's the whole process :(
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structure would go to explain a few gaps
in that grid ...
I'm trying to get self sufficient, but that is simply not an easy job
with so many different tools used in the background!
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users ...
I've finally got a caching setup working, but it's still not ideal. I'm
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by the main page. We need to be able to select style AND
language defaults in much the same way that projects like php provide
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But this is possibly not the best way of making a scale able system. It
would be better to have a single main domain which then forwards to an
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On 22/08/15 19:24, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web
services [...]
I agree that this is a problem. But not for the reasons
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On 20/08/15 14:06, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
On 19/08/2015, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
98% of the history that we are looking to manage properly is currently
existing in OSM. All that is needed is to add start dates to the bulk of
the existing data.
What do you do when a road
or
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, but not for main stream routing
and where the likes of OSMAND simply gets the routing wrong ... as do
other routers :(
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involved is much less than some of the third party
data already swamping the database so what is the problem simply
properly tracking stop_date in existing rendering and leaving the
evolutionary data in tact with the current material?
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. There are safe and accessible footpaths bypassing the major
trunk roads, but currently the trunk routes - which have no footpaths
are still provided by the routing software :(
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to exist in ...
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On 16/08/15 01:46, Paul Norman wrote:
On 8/15/2015 2:09 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
The simple answer seems to be that there is no standard when it comes to
mapping applications and everybody creates their own personal special
such as kosmtik rather than working with established standards
at the moment.
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that is broken. libstxxl.a has gone missing :(
These days a 48 hour day would be helpful ...
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wasting time on :(
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mapping applications and everybody creates their own personal special
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a stop_date ...
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of 'brown' for farms around Birmingham when in
practice the whole area is mainly farmland. I'm just trying to work out
how to strip the 'farm yard' from the generic farm tagging so that
specific orchard and similar farming activity shows up better.
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been laid around here and we could have plotted their
routes as the various roads were dug up and trenches cut ...
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the whole lot on an OHM
version of the data, or one simply maintains a little more material in
the main database. The tagging decides what can be seen for a current
rendering rather than snipping out bits which still need to be
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I need to get this machine configured before shipping over to the data
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well unless that geometry can be completely
isolated. Trying to use the same way elements for different objects in
different databases does not work :(
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is farmland. trying to fill that with blocks of landcover is what seems
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On 14/08/15 09:41, Lester Caine wrote:
After working through a few little nuances on SUSE linux I finally have
tilemill running. It's giving me level 1 and 2 from the shape files and
the loading of the style now completes without any errors. I can see it
remotely although there is still
' is something that should never happen on
what has at some time been correct information. 'Archive' is the correct
term and making that data available as required ... Delete is only
appropriate when the material is proven invalid.
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level tiles ... how do I
access them via port 20008 ... only seeing 'Not Found' which
reassuringly nginx is also returning for the /tile/ access ...
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On 14/08/15 22:03, Ian Sergeant wrote:
On 15 August 2015 at 00:12, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
As I have said before 'Delete' is something that should never happen on
what has at some time been correct information. 'Archive' is the correct
On 14/08/15 12:06, Lester Caine wrote:
Where should I bee looking next?
Why is everything so difficult. I've HAD OSRM working on SUSE12.3 and
13.1, but all the lua stuff is broken again on 13.2!
I managed to use lua5.1 on the 13.1 build, but only by killing lua5.2
... If I do that on 13.2 it's
On 14/08/15 23:14, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:51:13 +0100
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
But the
one thing that the current model has got the capability of handling is
start and stop dates for any facet of an object from the name of a
shop to the evolution
eludes me :( Lack of time is the problem, but a
decent set of instructions to work with openstreetmap-carto and manage a
branch off the current style would be helpful!
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On 13/08/15 10:37, Daniel Koć wrote:
W dniu 13.08.2015 11:22, Lester Caine napisał(a):
producing tiles still eludes me :( Lack of time is the problem, but a
decent set of instructions to work with openstreetmap-carto and manage a
branch off the current style would be helpful!
You may try
mapping ;)
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... some abandoned lines are
not open to public access, but their existence is still real even if the
actual rail has been removed.
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anybody point me
to a crib sheet that fills in the gaps in the openstreetmap-carto setup
notes. Obviously where I would like to get to is a setup where I can
identify which icon sets and colour elements go with what ...
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OK Have a working osmosis/replication setup which is currently running
an hourly sync of my 'British Isles' database.
I've been working through the notes just to make sure I've not missed
anything and while I do have a working system it may perhaps
On 09/08/15 12:59, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/08/2015 23:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 8 August 2015 at 22:55, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
What is the best way of cloning the existing style setup for a UK tile
server?
Some useful resources:
https://switch2osm.org/serving
On 09/08/15 14:17, Lester Caine wrote:
On 09/08/15 12:59, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/08/2015 23:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 8 August 2015 at 22:55, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
What is the best way of cloning the existing style setup for a UK tile
server?
Some useful
What is the best way of cloning the existing style setup for a UK tile
server?
I'm snowed under with pigging M$ crap on three sites so have not had
time to refresh my earlier copy of the software.
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Adding a new rendering stack is secondary and does not need to be
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content. If
you want the data that goes with a 'wikidata=*' entry then simply ask
wikidata for it. Same with wikipedia and other data sources. If you want
a sorted list get wikidata to provide it ...
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2015-07-31 17:21 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
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On 31/07/15 16:09, Jo wrote:
That's what is proposed here though:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata
pages in wikipedia,
which can then be linked to OSM. Keep each project to what it is good at
and sort out procedures that direct information to the right boxes.
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but have no use as a through route?
the water will undoubtedly pass through on its route
Flow management from man made reservoirs may tend to modify that situation.
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it should be
drawn, but an imaginary link just showing water flow should not be
necessary? Any routing process should be able to deduce the relation,
there is no need to draw it.
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space on a site with a large pipe, but I
would prefer to see perhaps a more distributed model where several sites
mirror the same tile set and hopefully historic overlays ... another
area that needs a little more locally based support.
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Lester Caine wrote:
The other area that I am looking to roll back
First, I wouldn't think in terms of rolling back at all.
Cartography for a UK tileset could and should be designed from scratch. If
you really want to start with an existing
to the surrounding areas
and I read THAT page as saying landuse=farm is not valid.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarm has so few entries
tagged that I am sure it could be 'retired' now?
As others have said - generally covering large areas as 'farmland' is
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at the bottom of the page and seeing '69' ...
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On 23/07/15 17:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
From a UK point of view there nothing wrong with
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.1106/-2.0754 and certainly
that is what is needed for any routing system.
Yes, this part of map is not bad. I am
/editing:incorrectlyspelledcities:europe:uk#fixed
gives you an idea of the backlog just with the primary places
information for the UK and that is only the tip of the iceberg :( I've
been promised several time over the last years that Broadway will be
moved back to Worcestershire but with no actual change.
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service has to support an international audience, just as
some countries provide their own local services, the UK needs a similar
more UK centric facility.
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On 30/06/15 11:36, Richard Z. wrote:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 04:14:07PM +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
On 29/06/15 15:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
The step from 2D to 3D would add a lot of complexity on the mappers,
narrowing down the mass of contributors potentially willing and able
network be inside or outside
that polygon? We had the same discussion in relation to
'landuse=university' where the campus area needs an outline, but t5ere
are a lot of different 'landuse' activities within that ...
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then needs review ... coastal erosion etc.
Boundaries and landuse are another 'plane' independent of layer,
although 'mixed' use land may well be augmented by different tags once
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it's a waste of time they don't waste more ... the company is
supposedly a bunch of lawyers.
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, but perhaps if they all
started filling in details in India the same as we do for clients in the
UK ... they obviously have time to farm email accounts to spam ...
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on cheap android
devices. I've actually got it running on a £40 tablet for a bigger sat
nav display ...
All that is lacking is that other apps go to OSMAND rather than trying
to get google maps running ... which only works with a network link?
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project like OSM that can provide that service?
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, London Borough of Bromley, London,
Greater London. While GeoNames has an entry for Hayes, Bromley, OSM it
seems does not?
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to discuss the overall
framework of how the layers of tagging evolve?
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of
'ways'. The areas I'm trying to tidy up are small shopping malls which
have shops within shops on multiple levels ... with accommodation above.
A combination of objects is just what I'm looking for, but with
different outlines for each object ...
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that ... or would want to do about it on the
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On 31/05/15 12:24, Andrew Hain wrote:
Does Craigslist also get oneway=-1 (traffic opposite to the direction of the
way) wrong?
And oneway:cycle=no and the like ...
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property in the UK
http://www.iahub.net/docs/1398672866952.pdf
This is used by every UK council to provide the data free of charge, but
we are not then allowed to use it freely :(
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to provided
filtered live data? Should that layer be provided by a third party? I
think the answer there is probably no, but providing an interface where
third party versions of the data can be used makes sense.
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for those using the maps for gaming purposes. But I don't think we
can rely on a third party like Wikidata to provide this dictionary ...
they may however parallel it's operation?
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OSM does not need to duplicate all of the publically available data, but
an agreed standard for accessing secondary levels is still lacking?
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have any satellites
in Cambridge? The current documented sytle works and should perhaps be
documented as the general standard?
( And PLEASE trim everything if you must top post ... even on a mobile
phone these posts have been painful! )
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'university, country' you see a
list of entities with a single entry per, but because it's not 'physical
map information' it's not acceptable to some :(
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a sense of it being right. (And
in any group of 10 mappers, there seem to be 11 opinions as to what is
right, concensus is very hard to achieve).
Only 11 :)
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for a particular department. A couple of my regular haunts
have just completed a re-signing exercise to help identification of
departments on a number of levels.
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' icon at a macro level, and switch to icons for
the collages at a suitable scale. That data in the map can then be
cross-referenced from the master objects ... and be highlighted when a
particular place is selected.
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ian atkinson atkin...@hotmail.com
Is over there now on a 4 week secondment, but we did not have time to
get him up to speed before he went ... He get told last week end and
flew out on the 12th. But being a mapper he may be a useful pair of eyes
on the ground ...
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on what IS a social platform. There are
places where hiding ones identity is necessary, but here is not one?
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EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com
is tagged
showing the 'safe' driving direction. Would you drive up the right hand
branch? That is ignoring the case of trying to escape from the police ;)
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On 11/05/15 09:39, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote:
On 2015-05-11 at 08:41:48 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
On 11/05/15 02:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I expect to see Xxzme back under a different username soon.
This is the real problem.
While it is now common for people to hide behind anonymous
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