Re: [Talk-it] Alberi monumentali d’Italia

2020-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 31. Aug. 2020 um 12:04 Uhr schrieb Matteo Fortini < matteo.fort...@gmail.com>: > Aggiungo un aneddoto sulla lista degli alberi monumentali: se vi capita, > controllate se ci sono alberi per il vostro Comune e se sono in un numero > che vi sembra giusto. L'ho fatto col mio Comune e non ce

Re: [Talk-it] Alberi monumentali d’Italia

2020-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Aug 2020, at 21:11, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > Non puoi derivare informazioni (come ad esempio i toponimi) da un elaborato > grafico del piano regolatore, esattamente come non le puoi derivare da altre > carte o mappe come tuttocittà, gli atlanti touring, le

Re: [Talk-it] Alberi monumentali d’Italia

2020-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Aug 2020, at 17:30, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > esattamente come non ci ricade un allegato grafico al piano regolatore, che è > parte integrante del piano stesso: però le informazioni contenute dovrebbe essere public domain. Noi non facciamo copie dell’elaborato

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. Aug 2020, at 14:51, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Martin, non è così. Una "single-track road" (UK) o "one-lane road" (USA), > termini equivalenti secondo Wikipedia, sono spesso vere e proprie strade a > una corsia, utilizzati con due sensi di traffico la corsia

Re: [Talk-it] Osmf

2020-08-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. Aug 2020, at 10:02, Lorenzo Pesci wrote: > > Iscritto anche io, poi mi spiegate meglio come potrò essere utile, grazie. > Ciao Lorenzo Pesci più tardi nell’anno ci saranno elezioni per il board (consiglio d’amministrazione), e spero che vinceranno persone della

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. Aug 2020, at 11:29, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Sono d'accordo che c'è confusione. > Ho cercato dove si definisce la larghezza di una single-lane road ed ho > trovato solo questo cenno in wikipedia: > "Some roads and bridges that carry very low volumes of traffic

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Sa., 29. Aug. 2020 um 00:17 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt : > On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 15:27, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> penso l’accordo generale prevede di non mappare “lanes” quando le corsie >> non sono indicate, invece si può usare “width”. >> Lanes=1 in

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Aug 2020, at 16:42, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Di quello che so e come viene usato, non è così. > C'è un gran numero di strade strette, taggate con lanes=1 e spesso anche con > oneway=no. penso l’accordo generale prevede di non mappare “lanes” quando le corsie non

Re: [Talk-it] Alberi monumentali d’Italia

2020-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Aug 2020, at 14:05, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > allora non saprei come riportare il campo "CR_STORICO" dichiarato di > monumentalità cos’è il criterio di “storico”? Viene nominato in documenti storici? Per la questione landmark la vedo come Ale. Ciao Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Alberi monumentali d’Italia

2020-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 27. Aug. 2020 um 12:30 Uhr schrieb Cascafico Giovanni < cascaf...@gmail.com>: > Si, ho capito, ma che un ente statale sponsorizzi l'uso di google maps > non mi sta per niente bene. > VI pare normale che un ministero induca ai cittadini di essere > tracciati da un'azienda commerciale

Re: [Talk-it] Alberi monumentali d’Italia

2020-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Aug 2020, at 12:30, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > Come taggereste i criteri di "monumentalità"? c’è denotation=natural_monument https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/denotation#values > Storico direi historic=yes direi di no, historic non è un tag per cose

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2020, at 18:10, Andrea Albani wrote: > > quello che hai trovato tu in fondo alla via ed è quindi da quel punto che > inizia un percorso ciclopedonale promiscuo ovvero segregated=no con eccezioni > per alcuni veicoli invece quella situazione credo sia

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2020, at 18:10, Andrea Albani wrote: > > Se già trovi 3 interpretazioni, allora non è poi così chiaro Martin :) è chiaro il cartello, non è probabilmente il cartello giusto secondo quello che noi ci aspettiamo, ma non toglie la validità del cartello > >

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2020, at 09:19, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > Magari sbaglio, ma a me sembra una semplice highway=cycleway + > foot=designated + segregated=no. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway sì, oppure path con simili tags. Andando un po’ avanti

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] Bicycle road all'italiana?

2020-08-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2020, at 15:07, Andrea Albani wrote: > > da StreetView la strada mi sembra una normale residential senza particolarità > o elementi che la possano classificare ad uso bicicletta e in subordine ai > veicoli. > Quel cartello non mi pare abbia infatti alcun

Re: [Talk-it] tags per piazza

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 22:35, Massimo Rossi wrote: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/410875602 farei iniziare il nome con maiuscolo: Piazza Dovresti collegare la piazza alla strada (per esempio pezzettini di footway fino alla strada), questo è necessario perché non

Re: [Talk-it] tags per piazza

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 13:46, Massimo Rossi wrote: > > Ma a me proprio non piace il fatto di taggare la linea che delimita la piazza > come highway. Se c'è una strada la mappo come tale ma sicuramente non sarà > attaccata al muro delle case come il perimetro della piazza.

Re: [Talk-it] tags per piazza

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 10:28, Nogaro wrote: > > Se davvero i veicoli possono circolare in tutta piazza senza una direzione > precisa, va bene come è stato fatto con highway=residential + area=yes, ma è > un caso abbastanza inconsueto non devi sempre tenerti a destra

Re: [Talk-it] R: se siete mappatori attivi potete diventare membri della OpenStreetMap-Foundation a gratis

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 07:07, canfe wrote: > > Potrebbero anche accorgersene come scritto nel loro documento: con piccole cose non intendevo fare edit senza senso (tipo spostare lo stesso nodo avanti e indietro), ma per esempio inserire un paio di civici nuovi al giorno,

Re: [Talk-it] tags per piazza

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 22:35, Massimo Rossi wrote: > > ciao! Ho bisogno di un chiarimento. mi risulta, anche rileggendo la wiki,che > per una piazza si usa il tag place e il tag name. sì, io spesso ci creo un oggetto a parte, perché la piazza comprende tutto (fontane,

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 21:41, mmd wrote: > > That's a pretty dystopian view on the OSM future, if you ask me... I did not mean to callout mappers, but it could help to highlight potentially weak parts of the map where a resurvey could make more sense than in other parts

Re: [Talk-it] se siete mappatori attivi potete diventare membri della OpenStreetMap-Foundation a gratis

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 19:23, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu > wrote: > > Grazie Martin, ma non voglio farne una malattia, capisco è importante, > ma tutto va di conseguenza col proprio tempo, per cui se il prossimo > anno rifaranno "l'offerta", ben venga, anche se mi

Re: [Talk-it] se siete mappatori attivi potete diventare membri della OpenStreetMap-Foundation a gratis

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 18:58, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu > wrote: > > Io no, si tiene conto della mappatura dell'anno scorso, alla prossima. :) se ci tieni dovrebbe essere fattibile mappare delle piccole cose nei prossimi giorni fino al raggiungimento dei 42

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 13:55, pangoSE wrote: > > We could e.g. set a verification-needed > flag on objects edited in a changeset with "please review". while you can (already) add a fixme tag, I fear that creating a special feature for less reliable information could lead

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 13:40, pangoSE wrote: > > The permid then no longer represents a shop but the > location of a space where a shop could and now does exist. Someone > making a service cataloguing all shopspaces for hire in a city could > then link to this shopspace FWIW.

Re: [Talk-it] Changeset con molte cancellazioni in zona Ferrara

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 11:54, Federico Cortese wrote: > > Anche io premetto che non sono della zona, ma oltre a quanto da te > evidenziato ho notato che c'era comunque un problema di poligoni > farmland sovrapposti, cioè grandi multipoligoni (tipo questo >

Re: [Talk-it] Altra violazione dì copyright

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 11:15, Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi > wrote: > > è una battaglia persa... è solo persa perché non abbiamo mai intrapreso azioni veri per combatterlo... Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Kostenlose OSMF-Mitgliedschaft für Aktive - Craftmapper in die OSMF ;)

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Gilt das dann für ein Jahr? Wenn man nun z.B. nach einem Jahr 41 Mappingtage hat, fliegt man dann raus? Und wenn man dann in der Folge wieder mappt, z.B. nach einem Monat wieder 42 Tage hat, welches Datum gilt dann für die Feststellung ob man wahlberechtigt ist? Gruß Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 19:44, pangoSE wrote: > > So one new table for permanent ids that is updated every time: > * a node is created or deleted > * a way is created from scratch or deleted > * a relation is created from scratch or deleted > * a way is converted to a relation

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 19:44, pangoSE wrote: > > Maybe we should first add permanent ids (new table) and reference that. we do have permanent ids for nodes, ways and relations. ;-) What kind of permanent ids do you want? For some more abstract concept like a road with a

Re: [Talk-de] Auftrennung der highways an Mautstellen

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 19:25, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > ... dummerweise ist der Richtungswechsel hier in der Gegend die Regel (an > den Abfahrten fuer di Badestraende), und kann sogar während des Tages > wechseln na und, das kann man ja modellieren, AFAIK gibt es tags für

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 10:15, pangoSE wrote: > > Here is yet another example of bad data in our database: fix it ;-) Of course OpenStreetMap contains errors, just like any other source, and probably more, given that most contributors are laymen and have very few

Re: [Talk-de] Auftrennung der highways an Mautstellen

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 09:29, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Es gibt eine zusätzliche Komplikation: hier in Norditalien gibt es stark > befahrene Mautstellen, wo einige Fahrbahnen nach Bedarf die Richtung > wechseln. das kommt an manchen Stationen vor, und ist eine zusätzliche

Re: [Talk-de] Auftrennung der highways an Mautstellen

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 09:21, Nordpfeil wrote: > > Hier zwei Links zum Thema > 1. Bearbeitungsstandards und Konventionen für Straßen mit getrennten Spuren: > (Vielleicht ist das die "Entscheidung der internationalen Community".) > >

Re: [Talk-de] Auftrennung der highways an Mautstellen

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 00:59, Volker via Talk-de > wrote: > > Wer an solchen Mautstellen nicht auf Sicht fährt > sondern auf sein Navi hört, ist selbst dran schuld. so habe ich es auch gesehen, aber anscheinend sind manche Navis dort abgestürzt und es ist ja eine

[Talk-de] Auftrennung der highways an Mautstellen

2020-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Ich würde Euch gerne um eine Einschätzung bitten: an den Mautstellen in Italien (und anderswo) splittet sich die Fahrbahn üblicherweise in mehrere Teile, grundsätzlich physisch getrennt durch meist Betonwände, Fußgängertunnel (gelegentlich/oft?), Leitplanken und Kassiererhäuschen, Beispielbild

Re: [Talk-it] se siete mappatori attivi potete diventare membri della OpenStreetMap-Foundation a gratis

2020-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Aug 2020, at 17:33, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu > wrote: > > Fatto, non ho capito se si riferisce solo alle mappature del solo 2019, > in tal caso sarei fuori, mentre se vanno assommate anche quelle di > quest'anno dovrei farcela. > ad ogni modo la richiesta

[Talk-it] se siete mappatori attivi potete diventare membri della OpenStreetMap-Foundation a gratis

2020-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Chi ha mappato al meno a 42 giorni negli ultimi 365 giorni può diventare membro della OpenStreetMap-Foundation senza costi. Invito tutti caldamente di approfittare di questa possibilità, perché finora i mappatori professionisti erano in maggioranza alla OpenStreetMap-Foundation, e sarebbe

[Talk-it-lazio] se siete mappatori attivi potete diventare membri della OpenStreetMap-Foundation a gratis

2020-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Chi ha mappato al meno a 42 giorni negli ultimi 365 giorni può diventare membro della OpenStreetMap-Foundation senza costi. Invito tutti caldamente di approfittare di questa possibilità, perché finora i mappatori professionisti erano in maggioranza alla OpenStreetMap-Foundation, e sarebbe

Re: [OSM-talk] Conflict between en-GB and en copyright page.

2020-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Aug 2020, at 03:59, Oliver Simmons wrote: > > > > The translation (en-GB) says in case of conflicts en overrules. > > This would be fine if it wasn’t that *they appear to be backwards* > > en is the page lacking the tile attribution info and that is supposedly

Re: [Talk-it] [talk:it] relazioni type=street e ciclabli

2020-08-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Aug 2020, at 18:07, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Sarebbe utile (anche se tardi) per fornire ai programmi di navigazione la > possibilità di dare istruzioni corretti ai ciclisti (tipo: "girare a destra > sulla ciclabile di Via Trieste"). su questo tema si discute

Re: [Talk-de] Kostenlose OSMF-Mitgliedschaft für Aktive - Craftmapper in die OSMF ;)

2020-08-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Aug 2020, at 10:18, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Bzw. die > meisten von Euch sind das ja auch. Also... anmelden und in Zukunft > mitreden ;) +1, bei fast allen Fragen, weil man associate member wird, und nicht „member“. Details hier:

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Aug 2020, at 00:18, Mike Thompson wrote: > > Thanks for the link where they mention OSM. I did find their CEO on > Linkedin, and just sent him this message: thank you! You may also consider adding them here:

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo stile di Google Maps

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Aug 2020, at 00:20, totera wrote: > > Questo avrebbe potuto essere un punto di forza di OSM, e invece non abbiamo > neanche una modalità univoca per mappare le strisce... non fa niente, ne abbiamo 2-3, ma se vuoi fare una mappa non ti impedisce l’esistenza di più

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo stile di Google Maps

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Aug 2020, at 22:20, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > > Piú contrasto, piú colori, piú dettagli... si può dire che Google Maps > si avvicina al layer di base di osm.org? vediamo come se lo cavano, avevo l’impressione che la loro mappa era diventata praticamente

Re: [Talk-it] osm.pbf > osm2pgsql > convertire colonna tipo "hstore" in "text"

2020-08-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Aug 2020, at 21:59, Roberto Brazzelli wrote: > >  > Ciao, > alla vista ci ho già pensato ma il mio problema è che ho uno script > automatizzato che carica il nuovo osm.pbf > con osm2pgsql nel mio database e ogni volta crea una una nuova tabella e se > sono

Re: [Talk-it] osm.pbf > osm2pgsql > convertire colonna tipo "hstore" in "text"

2020-08-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Aug 2020, at 11:26, geofr...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > Ciao, perche' non ti crei una vista direttamente nel db ?? > Poi puoi usarla in qgis come fosse una tabella. > > tipo: > CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW nome_vista AS > SELECT > ... (tutti i campi che ti servono),

Re: [Talk-it] Vandalismi in corso - utente Erler3

2020-08-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 17. Aug 2020, at 20:19, Ivo Reano wrote: > > Questo neo utente, come quasi tutti credo, usa ID. sì, la stragrande maggioranza delle persone usa iD. Spesso solo una volta. La grande maggioranza delle modifiche vengono invece create con Josm, il doppio di quelle di

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2020, at 21:16, john whelan wrote: > > And different features really are called difference things in different > countries. +1, moreover, the „same“ features are different in different countries and cultures, and it is part of our work to define when we

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2020, at 21:04, pangoSE wrote: > > E.g. permanent unique ids, talk pages if we want that for every osmid, SPARQL > support, standardization benefits "riding the current ride in open data" somehow you can have this already through the integration of wikidata:

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2020, at 15:08, pangoSE wrote: > > To support and emphasize ground truth I think we should setup a service like > Wikimedia commons also to host verification images that proves how it looks > on the ground. I agree photos from the current on the ground

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2020, at 10:44, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > > tagging name tag is a fundamental part of OSM tag, > offloading it to a third party service is a mistake that will not happen +1, names are a fundamental part of OpenStreetMap, we must keep the decision

Re: [Talk-it] app fontanelle di Roma

2020-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8. Aug 2020, at 14:44, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > Si era parlato sul canale telegram... le loro fonti :-) non sono un granché > rispetto ad osm. Forse contano di innescare del crowd sourcing si, l’ho pensato anch’io, non riescono a gestirle e contano sulle

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 6. Aug. 2020 um 11:26 Uhr schrieb Lukasz Kruk : > I'm not sure what rules govern this: "Londn" does find the capital of the > UK, but "Warszaw" does not find the capital of Poland...?), which is only a > little inconvenient when compared to the second-best online map. > this is because

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Funding of iD Development and Maintenance

2020-08-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 5. Aug. 2020 um 12:35 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk < osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org>: > Especially given that JOSM is used for similar number of edits > this is not correct, JOSM accounts for 522 335 462 edits in 2020, while iD users have committed 227 706 433 edits, this

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 16:53, Simon Poole wrote: > > but it isn't a good measure of what the OSMF should spend its money on, weere > applying an 80/20 rule is likely to be far more appropriate. > As I have said, I’m fine with spending 2500 on a dead proprietary technology

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 16:26, Matthew Woehlke wrote > > Obviously, this would all almost surely be a temporary mode (maybe it > persists as long as JOSM is open, but isn't uploaded), but since you usually > draw once, that would be fine. (Bonus points if JOSM could

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 13:58, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > but I would practically *kill* for JOSM to have FreeCAD's suite of sketch > constraints ;-). you’re aware that there are sketch constraints for configurable angles (90, 60, 45 etc) and projection snaps? Hit 2 times

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 12:28, Andy Townsend wrote: > > I wrote down what I was there, other people's GPS traces, etc. etc.) and that > really needs a desktop editor. +1, while mobile editors are a great addition to our toolset, they cannot substitute desktop editors. A

[Talk-it] OpenStreetMap nel tg principale tedesco

2020-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Oggi OpenStreetMap è stato usato per la prima volta nel TG principale tedesco (alle ore 20, ARD Tagesschau): https://michreichert.de/forum-images/forum.openstreetmap.org/70199/tagesschau_2020-08-03_ponte_san_giorgio.jpg Lo scrivo a voi perché hanno fatto vedere la mappa di Genova (da Maptiler)

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 18:11, Guillaume Rischard wrote: > > As someone who’s listed as having used 9 different editors on > https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Stereo (including “unknown”), I know how important > the variety and richness of editing possibilities is. agreed.

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Aug 2020, at 00:09, Andy Townsend wrote: > >> I guess this is about not handling symbols? > > > Not really - see > https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/6368/in-josm-is-it-possible-to-see-gpx-track-waypoint-details > for information. the second answer

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 17:09, Andy Townsend wrote: > > GPX track waypoint handling is the biggest missing piece of functionality for > me, so you can start with that one if you wish I guess this is about not handling symbols? Because Josm does show waypoints and their

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of iD Development and Maintenance

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 13:49, Mikel Maron wrote: > > As part of this focus, we want to organise coordinated funding to support > continued maintenance and development of the iD editor, as iD's strong > continuous development over the past several years has served the OSM >

Re: [OSM-talk] Proper use of route relations?

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 03:19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > An indication that all these things are maintained by one organization? there is the operator tag for this. Don’t use relations where tags can do the trick... Cheers Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] Proper use of route relations?

2020-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 1. Aug 2020, at 20:48, Yves via talk wrote: > > This would be better joined in a site relation. why should it? What’s the benefit? How is this different to adding all roads of a village into a site relation? Cheers Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 1. Aug 2020, at 12:45, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > mmd wrote: > > Why aren't we porting Potlatch2 to WebAssembly, then? > > I'm not sure who the "we" is in this question, but assuming you're not > volunteering yourself :) we is the OpenStreetMap-Foundation and in

Re: [Talk-it] Traduzione dei luoghi e dei monumenti famosi all'estero

2020-07-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
in pratica è già stato fatto tante volte... ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Traduzione dei luoghi e dei monumenti famosi all'estero

2020-07-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. Jul 2020, at 20:06, Nap Osm wrote: > > (sempre attraverso Wikidata come dicevo), qualcuno saprebbe dirmi se è > possibile farlo? credo che secondo la OpenStreetMap-Foundation non si può fare perché wikidata contiene tanti dati protetti, nonostante la licenza cc0

Re: [Talk-de] Tool für Polygon statt BoundingBox

2020-07-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Jul 2020, at 21:02, Markus wrote: > > - Basiskarte OSM > . mit Maus ein Polygon zeichenen > - Polygon anpassen (Knoten verschieben, löschen, einfügen) > - Koordinatenliste exportieren (und Beispiel als Permalink) https://geojson.io macht was in der Art Gruß

Re: [OSM-talk] more engaging “about” page

2020-07-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Jul 2020, at 22:20, Michal Migurski wrote: > > I turned this into a PR, thank you! Cheers Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] more engaging “about” page

2020-07-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/about I thought it was not very engaging and we might want to make some small adjustments to make it more inviting for people to contribute. Specifically the paragraph: > Community Driven > OpenStreetMap's community is diverse, passionate, and growing

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing wiki asks for confirmation code?

2020-07-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jul 2020, at 21:43, stevea wrote: > > But instead, your environment (OxygenOS 10 running Firefox) presents this > "Pencil icon." Somewhere (likely wiki.osm.org) there is likely javascript > (probably informed by a UserAgent string of "Firefox — OxygenOS") which

Re: [Talk-it-lazio] incontro lunedì

2020-07-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jul 2020, at 01:11, Marcello Pelato wrote: > >  > Mi spiace ma lunedì 27 luglio non posso. > Sono dispiaciuto, perché avrei partecipato molto volentieri. > Dopo tanto tempo. > Sigh! Alla prossima mi spiace. Facciamo comunque? Chi è ancora a Roma e vorrebbe

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it] waterway=riverbank deprecated

2020-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jul 2020, at 12:56, Manuel wrote: > >  Credo anche io si riferisca a iD, che in presenza di un waterway=riverbank > dà questo errore > > spero che prima o poi si riesca di risolvere con questi edit automatici di iD, che spesso sono discutibili e contro il

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing all signposts from relations

2020-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jul 2020, at 20:33, Alberto Nogaro via talk > wrote: > > So if you do so, information is indeed lost. > +1 > Otherwise I can’t see why should it difficult to data consumer to strip the > unwanted information before processing the route. > +1 > > >

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it] waterway=riverbank deprecated

2020-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jul 2020, at 15:17, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Qualcuno che aveva seguito di più questa storia, potrebbe indicarmi con che > procedura e quando waterway=riverbank è stato "depreceated". non mi risulta deprecated:

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Jul 2020, at 14:31, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > >  > Ciao Martin, > > secondo te, "For disputed areas" sarebbero tutte le strade d'Italia o magari > vuol dire che se c'è un dubbio tra due nomi diversi vince quello indicato > sulla targa? no, sono i punti 2 e

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
non sono guidepost, e non c'è nemmeno un tag per "plaque" che non è commemorativo. Leggi il wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names The common default name. (Notes: - For disputed areas, please use the name as displayed on, e.g., street signs for the name tag - Put all

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Jul 2020, at 07:05, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > vuoi metterli così nel tag name? > Inoltre, spezzi la strada e cambi tutti i numeri civici? no. Maiuscole e minuscole metterei standardizzati. Non spezzerei nemmeno la via, le due ortografie possono

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Jul 2020, at 07:05, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > Sono davvero così importanti le targhe fatte dai comuni? sì, sono la cosa più rilevante per chi usa la mappa per orientarsi. Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi

2020-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Jul 2020, at 00:01, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi wrote: > > Penso anch'io che è importante scrivere qualcosa per spiegare questa > contraddizione tra le regole generali e quelle scelte da noi per i nomi delle > strade. per i nomi da stradario abbiamo official_name

Re: [Talk-it] Denominazione di strade interne

2020-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Jul 2020, at 09:52, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > Io vedo due soluzioni: o si mette lo stesso nome della strada principale, > ovvero quella riportata dallo stradario, oppure non si indica alcun nome. Tra > le due preferisco la prima. +1, ho fatto così ieri dove

Re: [Talk-it] Riprendo vecchia discussione, spiazzo deposito tronchi.

2020-07-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Jul 2020, at 22:38, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu > wrote: > > storage=pile_log log_pile Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Denominazione di strade interne

2020-07-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Jul 2020, at 23:04, Vittorio Bertola wrote: > > Quindi direi proprio che un nome esiste ed è pure ufficiale, sia su carta che > sul posto. E poi, capisci che se l'unica indicazione che sappiamo dare per > arrivare in via Sansovino 243 interno 55 interno L è

Re: [Talk-it] Denominazione di strade interne

2020-07-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Jul 2020, at 20:31, Vittorio Bertola via Talk-it > wrote: > > vorrei chiedere se esista una linea guida per il tag name delle strade > corrispondenti a interni, perché qui non ne ho trovato traccia: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] "helpful" remote correctional edits (or "please don't correct bank ATMs in the Sahara desert" - was: Re: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in va

2020-07-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Jul 2020, at 23:27, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > > no doubt many of our gravel tracks were correct at the time and have now been > paved or bound. I have thought about this, the tags were added in 2017 and while the asphalt didn’t look as if it was paved

Re: [OSM-talk] "helpful" remote correctional edits (or "please don't correct bank ATMs in the Sahara desert" - was: Re: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in va

2020-07-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Jul 2020, at 14:48, Hauke Stieler wrote: > > Blind reverts are also pretty bad. In my case, I talked to other people > in our community and only reverted some of the edits, which are very > unplausible (like "grade4" with "surface=paved" and imagery showing a >

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Jul 2020, at 21:11, Michael Reichert wrote: > > I am reaching out to the community in > advance because different people might have a different opinion on how > reliable tracktype=* needs to be It will hardly be more reliable than its definition can be universally

[Talk-it] wikidata OpenStreetMap

2020-07-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone qualche giorno fa ho scoperto che qualcuno ha importato 2 anni fa 1701 oggetti da OpenStreetMap in wikidata senza attribuzione. Vorrei rimediare e fare due operazioni: 1. aggiungere la licenza ODbL agli oggetti in wikidata e OpenStreetMap come fonte 2. aggiungere un

Re: [OSM-talk] private or not, USA ?

2020-07-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
If they were public, why would there have to be a password anyway (maybe to have the connection encrypted)? Are they exposed publicly, or do you have to be a client and get a piece of paper with the password on it, or at least enter the place and look at a blackboard? From my experience these

[Talk-de] Wikipedia, bessere Unterstützung von Geoinformationen

2020-07-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Es läuft derzeit bei Wikipedia eine Abstimmung, welches Projekt man fördern sollte: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/Technische_Wünsche_2020_Themenschwerpunkte Vielleicht teilt der eine oder andere von Euch ja meine Präferenz „bessere Unterstützung von Geoinformationen“ und

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 15:28, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Maybe they assume that it is covered > anyway by moral rights? > > But ODBL waives moral rights if allowed > by law, > it attempts to block asserting such claims, > and so on. > > Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer etc

Re: [Talk-it] [Import] civici Bergamo

2020-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 14:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > ho anche trovato un paper che lo dice: > https://www.jlis.it/article/downloadSuppFile/5461/271 in realtà dice che è “probabilmente“ ok, visto la dichiarazione del license steward, per la IODL2, m

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 12:40, Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk > wrote: > > Such data is incompatible with > OSM requirements, must not be > imported, must be removed as > copyright violation if added already. on the plus side there is a declaration of the license steward

Re: [Talk-it] [Import] civici Bergamo

2020-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. Jul 2020, at 19:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > non è questione della ODbL, la questione è il progetto OpenStreetMap, che > consente a chiunque di modificare tutto in realtà sembra che sia problema della compatibilità con la Odbl, così hanno s

Re: [Talk-it] Cancelliamo gli opening_hours:covid19 ?

2020-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 13:13, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > Gli orari di apertura covid andrebbero trasformati in orari di apertura o > assumi che sia tutto come prima? assumo che sia tutto come prima. Se pensate che avrebbe senso lasciare i tag un altro po’, potrebbe

[OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
In recent local discussions it has emerged that some license has conditions for the reuse of the data, which may eventually not be completely compatible with OSM. In particular it relates to an Italian license which states as a condition you have to "not reuse the Information in a way that

[Talk-it] Cancelliamo gli opening_hours:covid19 ?

2020-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Come da oggetto, propongo un edit automatico per cancellare gli opening_hours:covid19=* (e forse altri tag covid19, se ci sono). Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Chiusura per lavori

2020-07-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Jul 2020, at 18:16, emmexx wrote: > > Ho aggiunto i tag > vehicle:conditional = no @ (2020 July 6-2020 September 6) > foot:conditional = no @ (2020 July 6-2020 September 6) > > Sul ponte passano anche taxi e tram in corsia riservata. Ha senso > modificare i tag

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