[Talk-ar] Reunion en capital

2009-11-23 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
Hola a todos, Que les parece si hacemos una reunion este domingo 29 de noviembre a la tarde? No sugiero lugar ya que no soy local, quien conozca un lugar con muchos enchufes y wifi que recomiende :-) Saludos, Matias D'Ambrosio ___ Talk-ar mailing

Re: [Talk-ar] (sin asunto)

2009-07-31 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 31 July 2009 15:13:49 Julian Rossi wrote: Hola Recientemente me encuentro con este proyecto . He sido colaborador de Conosur , y en sus comienzos del Proyecto MAPEAR dibujando algo de la Zona patagonica. Quisiera aportar algunos de los archivos IMG corregidos, varios de ellos

Re: [Talk-ar] Cordoba - Alturas

2009-07-16 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 16 July 2009 17:18:47 Jorge Luis Chamorro wrote: No me quedo muy claro que vendrian a ser las irregularidades de las cuadras. Aca se suelen hacer numeraciones de 100 o 50 en algunos casos. Para el caso de las plazas podriamos pensar en otro tipo de relaciones, pero no me

Re: [Talk-ar] Cordoba - Alturas

2009-07-11 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 10 July 2009 01:52:58 Francisco Herrero wrote: Hola, que tal. Actualmente estamos trabajando en un equipo cargando todas las calles de Córdoba. Ya hemos completado el 50% de las calles dentro de la circunvalacion. Hace unos meses pregunte a la lista si habia algun antecedente de

Re: [Talk-ar] Preguntas Novatas (altura de calles)

2009-05-20 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 20 May 2009 08:38:56 Jorge Luis Chamorro wrote: Ya esta empezando a aparecer algo en el render pero visitando la ciudad de Karlsruhe me doy cuenta que los numeros de las alturas aparecen en los dos niveles de zoom mas detallados pero no en el resto . Y en nuestro pais la altura

Re: [Talk-ar] Preguntas Novatas (altura de calles)

2009-05-20 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
No hay manera, actualmente, de hacer el render de las alturas de las calles como corresponde según nuestra costumbre. Por lo tanto, hay que crear una nueva regla de rendering, tarea no muy simple, pero enteramente posible. El sistema de Karlsruhe es engorroso, y no se adecúa a muchos de los

Re: [Talk-ar] division de provincias

2009-05-18 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 18 May 2009 12:53:02 Guillermo Sansovic wrote: Tenés a mano las leyes, etc, donde se dan los límites de las provincias? Creo que ponerlo en la wiki y marcar lo que falta sería una buena idea, muchos hitos se pueden marcar simplemente visitándolos con un GPS en el bolsillo. No,

Re: [Talk-es] Traducción de 'features'

2009-05-17 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Saturday 16 May 2009 17:40:35 Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses wrote: Perdón por el mensaje anterior... me ha jugado una mala pasada el programa de correo... Decía que la gente de cartografía de la UPM lo tradujo en su día como fenómeno UPM = Universidad Politécnica de Madrid, supongo? No me

Re: [Talk-es] Traducción de 'features'

2009-05-16 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Saturday 16 May 2009 14:48:22 Emilio Gómez Fdez. wrote: Dentro de los SIG, un contexto similar al de OSM, feature se suele traducir como elemento o entidad geográfica. Es el objeto gráfico que representan un elemento del mapa (punto, línea o área). No obstante es una palabra algo obtusa de

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-14 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Sunday 14 December 2008 17:20:52 Simon Ward wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 01:17:09PM +, Dave Stubbs wrote: It's what happens when you hit reply to all. Get used to it -- it's gonna happen to you a lot. It’s a pity more MUAs don’t have reply to list or take note of the List-Post

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-12 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 12 December 2008 10:23:37 Ed Loach wrote: I just spotted the following (video) news report on the BBC website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7778886.stm I don't believe the featured street has been mapped yet http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.37471lon=-2.3144zoom=15 but it looks

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-12 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 12 December 2008 11:17:09 Dave Stubbs wrote: OMG! Off-thread-topic shocker! What is this thread about BTW? I seem to have lost track. Street number craziness. By now it has degenerated into look at this neat grid and look at this crazy swirling random number maze, still useful since

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-12 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 12 December 2008 17:34:39 Colin McGregor wrote: The best arrangement I have seen for street numbers is in Chicago, IL. Streets laid out on a grid pattern. On the north/south and east/west streets there is a number - distance link. If you go from say 1 North Michigan to 801 North

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-11 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 11 December 2008 07:05:58 you wrote: On a more serious note about addressing, the Karlsruhe Schema would still fit your scenario. You can interpolate along each block, and assume that there is no guarantee that every building number exists. Then for extra detail, you can mark every

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-10 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 11:37:13 Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Matt Amos wrote: sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's relations with name-based references, when we already have proper relations? In my eyes an address is not a relation. It comes close, but a

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-10 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 12:04:13 you wrote: In your country, perhaps. In my country, that's EXACTLY what the address is. The address is the street and distance from the street's starting point, in metres. What happens if two houses are built facing each other on opposite sides

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-10 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 15:12:46 you wrote: South Bridge in Edinburgh has the numbers run up one side, then back down the other. I have come across some residential streets that are numbered all the way around. It's very rare around here for houses to be numbered based on the end of the

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-10 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 15:12:46 Shaun McDonald wrote: South Bridge in Edinburgh has the numbers run up one side, then back down the other. I just looked at Edinburgh and all I can say is, I'm sorry! Looks like a mess to map, excellent work :) I find it very strange that you city

[OSM-talk] Turn restrictions vs allowances?

2008-10-22 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
What is the opposite of a turn restriction? I can't find it and no one answers on IRC. Turning left is forbidden everywhere in my country on two way roads when there is no specific traffic light for it, and I assume it's the same in many other countries. Without a turning left allowed

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions vs allowances?

2008-10-22 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 18:06:10 you wrote: Matias D'Ambrosio wrote: Sent: 22 October 2008 8:21 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions vs allowances? What is the opposite of a turn restriction? I can't find it and no one answers on IRC. Turning left

Re: [Talk-es] Polígonos Industriales y una duda de J OSM

2008-10-22 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 20:45:41 Jaume Figueras wrote: Hola de nuevo, no os dejo tranquilos. Cuando mapeo calles de un polígono industrial que tipo de highway debo poner residential o unclassified? ¿Qué es un polígono industrial? ¿Un área industrial en tu ciudad? ¿Es privada? Quizás

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-21 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 14:37:29 Stefan Monnier wrote: Regarding street numbers: I'm very interested in adding them (as it so happens, I noticed their lack when looking for specific direction in Buenos Aires where indeed the block number is often used instead of the cross-street) and find

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-17 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 17 October 2008 05:17:15 you wrote: But the Karlsruhe schema also includes the interpolation option. So while I do see the merit in other schemes, I don't understand what your particular problem is here. I have done some mapping with the Karlsruhe scheme and I have used

[OSM-talk] Old data being cached too long

2008-10-17 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
I thought there were some errors with OSM but today visiting a friend we used OSM and mapnik was looking just fine, no tiles were old, while at home I get a patchwork of new and old, and I have to hit reload a bunch of times to get the right one. It's not my cache, btw, I did check for that

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-16 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 16 October 2008 05:47:57 Elena of Valhalla wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses. You can pretend that address

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-16 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 16 October 2008 14:28:33 Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses. Perhaps not natively, but I don't see why it

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-15 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 03:36:08 Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Karl Newman wrote: No, that would be tagging for actually being able to use the data. Without the odd/even/both information, it's actually a loss of data. Sounds quite strange to me. Any interpolation rule and odd/even/both

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-15 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 13:19:51 Gustav Foseid wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but you'll not find a municipality that has an interpolation rule (houses every 100 metres or so). Maybe not, but then again... In rural areas of

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-14 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Tuesday 14 October 2008 14:17:43 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Karl Newman wrote: That's not really true, because there are devices (such as Garmin GPS receivers) on which we would like to use OSM data, which need address numbers in a compact format with interpolation rules.

[OSM-talk] Multinode singleway relations

2008-10-14 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
Maybe this would be best discussed in -dev, I'm not sure. If there is a relation that applies to a way and nodes belonging to it, and one splits it (for example in my proposed street_number system, but I could see other relations that apply to this), an editor could take a few different

Re: [Talk-ar] Numeración de las calles en Argentina (y otros países? )

2008-10-14 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Tuesday 14 October 2008 09:46:07 Guillermo Sansovic wrote: El 13/10/2008 22:09, Matias D'Ambrosio dijo : Mandé un email a la lista global de OSM y me dijeron que está ok usar el role de esta manera, lo escribí un poco mas formal y cambié uno o dos detalles Te respondieron más bien

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 18:26:52 Frederik Ramm wrote: Nic, I have previously reported how someone with the screen name 'thebigfatgeek' has messed up a roundabout in Pretoria. I'm sorry this happens. I would be grateful if Frederik can run his revert tool again. In fact I wouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 20:19:38 Nic Roets wrote: Hi Frederik, I'm glad the issue gets to be discussed, as it will show up more and more frequently. Clearly we need some conflict resolution rules (similar to wikipedia's 3 revert rule), oversight and dispute resolution. We need to strike a

[OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-13 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
In the Argentina talk list we've been discussing a street numbering scheme appropriate for our country, and I would like input from people who know the DB better. So far this is *my* proposal, we're still discussing certain points in talk-ar, but knowing if this is workable or not means a

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-13 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 22:41:36 you wrote: Matias, Is there anything inherently wrong with this system? No, it is just another way to do it. If you feel it suits you better than the existing schemes, use it. Excellent! I wrote it thinking about ease of editing and efficiency both in

Re: [Talk-ar] Numeración de las calles en Argentina (y otros países? )

2008-10-13 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 21:26:58 Guillermo Sansovic wrote: Me parece *terriblemente* ineficiente. El uso de par/impar normalmente es constante (no se me ocurre un caso que no lo sea, pero no me resultaría tan raro), así que especificarlo en cada cuadra es innecesario. Tampoco veo el

Re: [OSM-talk] temporary=yes tag

2008-10-12 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Sunday 12 October 2008 22:32:17 Ryszard Mikke wrote: 2008/10/3 Matias D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While discussing leisure=bullring in the talk-es (spanish speaking list), the issue came up of bullrings that are only set up on certain occasions (holidays and other special events

Re: [OSM-talk] temporary=yes tag

2008-10-12 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Sunday 12 October 2008 22:55:24 you wrote: 2008/10/13 Matias D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 12 October 2008 22:32:17 Ryszard Mikke wrote: 2008/10/3 Matias D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While discussing leisure=bullring in the talk-es (spanish speaking list), the issue came

Re: [OSM-talk] temporary=yes tag

2008-10-12 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Sunday 12 October 2008 22:58:40 you wrote: Hi, It's not temporary until it's done, it's sometimes there, sometimes not. Like christmas decorations, only with those you know they are around in December. Then, logically speaking, the item they want to tag is not a bullring that is

Re: [OSM-talk] temporary=yes tag

2008-10-12 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 00:17:39 you wrote: If you're looking for a one word English tag, I think seasonal may be an option. It is usually used for things that are only in summer, or winter, etc, but can be used for holidays as well. Excellent, thank you, that's surely the right word! I'm

Re: [Talk-ar] Numeración de las calles en Argentina (y otros países? )

2008-10-11 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Saturday 11 October 2008 21:31:10 Guillermo Sansovic wrote: En general el esquema de numeración de calles en OSM todavía está bastante indefinido. Hay un esquema de prueba en una ciudad de Alemania (Karlsruhe) que es muy incomodo ya que esencialmente dibuja un nodo por cada numero de

Re: [OSM-talk] metered parking

2008-10-03 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 03 October 2008 05:36:50 you wrote: Your wish touches several unresolved topics of OSM tagging. b) Tagging of time-dependant features. Your example is easy, but it simply is not enough to have a tag for time_start and time_end, as there might be the weekday influencing the

[OSM-talk] temporary=yes tag

2008-10-03 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
While discussing leisure=bullring in the talk-es (spanish speaking list), the issue came up of bullrings that are only set up on certain occasions (holidays and other special events). This is also common for fairs, circuses, etc. So we thought something like a tag temporary=yes/no would be

Re: [Talk-ar] Estacionamiento medido y pago

2008-10-03 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 03 October 2008 12:11:31 you wrote: Días hábiles: de 08:00 a 20:00 Sábados: de 08:00 a 12:00 Una cosa que tiene Bahía: hay zonas con costo al 50%, no sé si eso sirve. Me habia olvidado de eso, pero requeriria de tags jerarquicos que no hay por ahora, asi que queda para el futuro,

Re: [OSM-talk] metered parking

2008-10-02 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 02 October 2008 05:16:41 Sven Rautenberg wrote: Matias D'Ambrosio schrieb: I would like to mark certain streets as having metered parking, but I found no reference to it in the wiki, maybe we could decide on something? At least according to the system used in my city (Bahia

Re: [OSM-talk] [Merkaartor] A few interface notes

2008-10-02 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 02 October 2008 05:33:14 you wrote: Woaw, dense post ;-) Let's try to summarize: Yeah, sorry, I didn't think each item was worth a mail by itself. - Is it possible to download just items visible at low zoom levels Short answer: No. The OSM API is all or nothing. Long answer: For

Re: [Talk-es] tag bullfight arena abandoned

2008-10-02 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 02 October 2008 09:23:44 demonodojo wrote: Si te fijas en el mensaje de Matías al que he contestado, de lo que está hablando es de internacionalizar los tags precisamente. Hablaba de internacionalizar el software que trabaja sobre la base de datos, que la base de datos esté en un

[OSM-talk] metered parking

2008-10-01 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
I would like to mark certain streets as having metered parking, but I found no reference to it in the wiki, maybe we could decide on something? At least according to the system used in my city (Bahia Blanca, Argentina), and I think the country, this tag would apply to ways. Also, it has a time

Re: [Talk-es] tag bullfight arena abandoned

2008-10-01 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 03:20:34 Nacho Blanco wrote: Yo propuse poner *building=plaza_de_toros* o *man_made=plaza_de_toros*, que sería lo más exacto y además metemos una etiqueta en castellano (hay que difundir el idoma y la diversidad es buena), pero noha habido ningún comentario al

Re: [Talk-es] tag bullfight arena abandoned

2008-10-01 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 12:15:24 sergio sevillano wrote: aunque en la wiki lo consideren deporte yo no lo veo así, actividad artística sería una opción, con los tags adecuados... pero para no liar mucho quizás lo mas simple sería centrarlo en el tipo de edificio. además también se evita

Re: [Talk-es] tag bullfight arena abandoned

2008-10-01 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 13:03:09 sergio sevillano wrote: Matias D'Ambrosio escribió: También hay plazas de toros en Portugal. que vergüenza, que nos habrán hecho los portugueses que siempre les dejamos de lado. por supuesto que Portugal también tiene corridas... lapsus. a mi me

Re: [Talk-ar] Convenciones sobre rutas y calles

2008-09-23 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 13:06:33 Guillermo Sansovic wrote: ¿Te referís a las ondulaciónes que se forman en los caminos de ripio o tierra o a las bandas transversales colocadas a drede para sacudir el auto? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_strips Ese es el que existe, que para colmo

Re: [Talk-ar] Limites: nivel administrativo

2008-09-20 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Saturday 20 September 2008 11:06:59 Juan F. Codagnone wrote: On Friday 19 September 2008, Martín Ferrari wrote: No faltarían los límites de ciudades? Creo que el límite de una ciudad / pueblo es útil (por ejemplo permite encontrar un cruce de esquina en un ciudad), pero creo que en

Re: [Talk-ar] Abreviaturas

2008-09-19 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Friday 19 September 2008 15:38:53 Margarita Manterola wrote: Ya que estamos, otro tema: La página del Wikiproject Argentina [1] indica que se deben usar abreviaturas. Sin embargo, esta no es la práctica recomendada [2], ya que este debe ser un trabajo realizado por el renderer, no por el