Re: [Talk-GB] London Datastore, public data and OSM

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Chance
On 25 February 2010 12:21, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I would be happy to do so (assuming no diary clash - confirmation of that later). I would need to know a time and a place and a brief on what they might or might not already know and how long I would have. I suggest that

Re: [Talk-GB] Gritting Routes

2010-01-20 Thread Tom Chance
Here's a PDF map for London if anyone fancies doing the same with OSM: http://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/Transport/gritting/default.htm Tom 2010/1/20 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Andy Robinson wrote: Most councils publish their gritting route data, many on their websites. Some

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey response

2010-01-18 Thread Tom Chance
Wading in (though for the purposes of a putative OSMF response, we can just leave this whole argument to one side and focus on the data)... 2010/1/18 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com I didn't say I wanted a monopoly. I'd rather either a) the government (i.e. the OS now, and doubly so if they

[Talk-GB] Place names for housing estates

2010-01-14 Thread Tom Chance
I've been following the wiki guidance to use place=locality for housing estates, which others seem to have used around my area. The only problem is that they render on quite low zoom levels, obscuring road names when they're not all that useful. For example: http://osm.org/go/euu...@d-

Re: [Talk-GB] Place names for housing estates

2010-01-14 Thread Tom Chance
2010/1/14 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk What do others think, and do? I've used both place=locality and landuse=residential/name=whatever in Wolverhampton recently. The advantage of drawing out the landuse area and using the name tag is that the name doesn't render until you've zoomed in

Re: [Talk-GB] Why using place=city for legal status is a bad idea

2009-12-27 Thread Tom Chance
I remember going round the houses on this years ago. Look across a range of maps and you will see most cartographers have their own mix of criteria to determine how place names are shown. So long as we put in enough data (official status, population, administrative importance, etc.) then

[Talk-GB] OS consultation out

2009-12-23 Thread Tom Chance
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/ordnancesurveyconsultation It would be good to submit a response from OSM contributors or the OSMF. Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] last london pub meetup of the year

2009-12-22 Thread Tom Chance
Btw brilliant foresight to hold the meeting in the John Snow pub! Won't be there, but have fun. Tom 2009/12/22 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com I shall be found in the John Snow Pub in Soho from 7pm this evening. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/Winter_2009-2010_Pub_Meetup

Re: [Talk-GB] London landuse=* request for help

2009-11-23 Thread Tom Chance
Likewise: http://osm.org/go/euuvDzAu There are large areas without landuse, or still with Tim's rough landuse, that could do with some mroe fine grained attention. I did a little around Tulse Hill, for example, but there's plenty more work to be done there, Streatham, Dulwich Village, etc:

Re: [Talk-GB] OS boundaries and 'mid-level' mapping data to be released for free re-use including commerically

2009-11-17 Thread Tom Chance
2009/11/17 Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu Data relating to electoral and local authority boundaries as well as postcode areas would be released for free re-use... I might be unduly skeptical, especially thinking about some of the people now advising the Government on this, but I wonder if the

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel area of London?

2009-11-10 Thread Tom Chance
2009/11/10 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com The roundel (the simple red ring and blue bar version) is more than 70 years old, if that makes any difference. The BR logo is somewhat newer, however. Putting it on a map feels to me to be akin to news reporting, so it might

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Tom Chance
2009/11/7 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk Maybe we need some method for companies/organisations to be able to say that an area isn't surveyed to a level they want and that they would like a particular area to be surveyed to a higher degree for a specific purpose. OpenStreetBugs is

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread Tom Chance
Just to say that I do think the Export tab route is excessively complicated, and that it's a shame the short links don't carry across markers. Tom 2009/11/1 Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com I asked early on in the year for way to add a marker to a map when I wanted to give a link to

[Talk-GB] Why has City Hall sunk?

2009-10-15 Thread Tom Chance
Evening, City Hall isn't showing up on the Mapnik layer, it is tagged as building=yes and amenity=townhall but only the name shows: http://osm.org/go/euu6AjKqZ-- Any ideas? Regards, Tom ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] A tile that just won't update

2009-08-31 Thread Tom Chance
There's a curious Mapnik problem in Peckham, London: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.47008mlon=-0.06592zoom=16layers=B000FTF That industrial park has been split into two halves at that particular zoom level - each with a different shade of purple - for months. Zoom in and it's the newer,

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-25 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:56:00 +0200, Alexander Klink o...@alech.de wrote: Sorry, didn't think about that. I've changed the bot to use osm.org, my bots will use that right away, I hope the other bot owners will update as well. What's the URL for the code, again, for those of us running the bot

Re: [OSM-talk] Weather overlay

2009-08-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:05:02 +0200, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Has anyone ever made an whether-overlay for openstreetmap using the Google [1] or the Yahoo API [2]? Probably not exactly what you're after, but you might find this interesting:

Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Chance
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:27:37 +0100, Jason Cunningham wrote: Is there any guidance showing how we should deal with these new bus stop? Just looking at my local area, many of the new ones are in the wrong place. But I cant simply move them because there is already a bus stop in the correct

[Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, I set about correcting a few dozen post code entries in NPE for south east London, but the postcodes map doesn't seem to be updating: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/?zoom=13lat=51.48557lon=-0.07888layers=B00T0F0F Have the hopefully weekly updates stopped? Any plans to

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes map moribund?

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:53:52 +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: Currently got an issue compiling mapnik on my dev box that generates them.. some conflict with latest ubuntu... probably easy to fix just haven't got round to it. I do /plan/ to fix it... I just don't know when it'll happen :-) Aha,

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-16 Thread Tom Chance
Please vote on this proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Miniature_railway Miniature railways have track gauges from 2.5 (64mm) to 7.25 (184mm) and usually carry passengers. Passengers usually ride on top of the carriages not in them. These are sometimes found in

Re: [OSM-talk] [english 95%] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-15 Thread Tom Chance
Kai - Original Message - From: Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: [english 95%] [OSM-talk] A process for rethinking map features Dear all, If the wood/forest and path/footway arguments have taught us one thing

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:02:28 +0100, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 11/08/09 08:50, Roy Wallace wrote: What would you suggest? It is quite possible that the effect of increasing the number of necessary votes will only result in slowing down progress. Do you instead expect that it would

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:23:09 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Tom Chance wrote: Well the hurdle to jump to change an existing tagging should certainly be much higher than the hurdle to introduce a new tag for something that hasn't been tagged before. Which is precisely why I made a simple

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Tom Chance
Frederik, On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:18:35 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Tom Chance wrote: 1 – Nobody can actually agree what highway=path means so it is being used in different senses all over the world, which reduces its usefulness to near zero Perhaps it really *is* useless and it was good

Re: [OSM-talk] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-11 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:35:52 +1000, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: - At SOTM present and discuss their proposals and vote As others have mentioned this is bad because it penalises those who can't go to SotM. IRC meetings could work, but as soon as you get more than a certain

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:49:47 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: API 0.6 broke backwards compatibility for editors (with the addition of changesets) API 0.5 broke backwards compatibility for editors AND renderers/routers (with the removal of segments) So, any discussion about improving the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:13:39 +0200, Martin Simon wrote: Path was and is intended to provide an alternative tagging scheme for things tagged with footway/bridleway/cycleway before that is not biased mode-of-transport-wise. With path, you can distinguish between e.g. officially designated

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:00:06 +0200, Martin Simon wrote: You've just explained that there are two different ways of tagging the same thing, and suggested that both are equally valid. That's pointless and confusing. What would you like to do? Force Mappers to use path? Automated

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:06:12 +0200, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: I think the main questions are: - Can we agree on a common interpretation of what foot/cycleway are supposed to mean? - Do we want a general meaning for every country, delegating local specifics to other tags, or a local

[OSM-talk] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Chance
Dear all, If the wood/forest and path/footway arguments have taught us one thing, it's that the current model doesn't work all the time (100s of emails, disorganised wiki discussions, votes with 20 or so random people). We develop, over years, one set of tags like

Re: [OSM-talk] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Chance
All good questions. As you say, the current situation is really far from optimal, it's just a matter of finding the right process for occasions where we need to make a big change like scrapping a bunch of existing tags in favour of a more logical alternative. On Monday 10 Aug 2009 17:29:50 Ben

Re: [Talk-GB] Peer verification (was: Liam123 again)

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:15:23 +0100, Peter Miller wrote: I suggest that this should be done at the level of a change-set, not at the feature level. There would a change-set patrol page/rss feed with an indication of which pages have been patrolled and by whom. Change-sets can either be

[Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Chance
Hi there, Looking at the wiki and talk-transit archives, it looks like we're close to imports for the rest of the country after the successful trial in the West Midlands. It would be really helpful if somebody could notify this list when more imports begin, and even lay out a timetable. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-07 Thread Tom Chance
On Friday 07 Aug 2009 23:15:39 OJ W wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: How is routing going to know that you can cross the road if you're on a sidewalk footpath and there's another one 8m away across a residential road? AFAIK

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-23 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:37:32 +1000, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Alice Kaerast wrote: There is also another property which hasn't been considered - type of trees. Evergreen vs. Deciduous might be nice to know. Ordnance survey maps differentiate between coniferous and

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-23 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:59:41 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/23 Liz ed...@billiau.net: The end result of my quick check is that 1. European or northern hemisphere categories of forest are incompatible with Australian flora. 2. Standardised category names may

Re: [OSM-talk] keep right! and landuse=wood

2009-07-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:55:54 +0100, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Surely logically the options are landuse=forest - large area of actively managed trees, landuse=wood - small area of actively managed trees, natural=wood - small area containing naturally occurring trees natural=forest -

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Monday 20 Jul 2009 17:08:30 Andrew Ayre wrote: I've been adding the national forests in Arizona, and the Wikipedia definition doesn't fit too well. There are areas here that are inside an administrative boundary called a National Forest where the trees are very sparse - 10s of meters

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Monday 20 Jul 2009 19:10:06 David Lynch wrote: I'm also thinking that deprecating both landuse=forest and natural=wood might be a good idea if this goes forward. Replace it with natural=trees Perfect! Clearly disambiguates the fact that you have trees from the many other concerns.

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (natural=rock)

2009-07-19 Thread Tom Chance
On Sunday 19 Jul 2009 18:38:04 Nicola Cadenelli wrote: I want to propose the tag natural=rock for tagging mountain areas made only by rocks, where there isn't vegetation or it's minimal. The wiki's page is here [1]. Bye. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/rock How

[Talk-GB] Street numbering (was Amenity Editing)

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Chance
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:52:49 +0100, Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: In case you haven't seen it there is an addressing system which has thought this through [1] and seems to be used as the de facto standard. My personal experience is that it is a slow and tedious process which I

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Jack, On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:32:16 +0100, Jack Stringer wrote: It would be nice to get enough data together that we could start to do a similar thing to Google with having a popup when you mouse over the fast_food icon showing you the extra details. I think it would be good, so two

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Tom Chance
Steve, All good ideas, as data becomes ever more densely and confusingly packed (just open Potlach in a completed Germany city!) the OSB site offers a nice way for Human Beings to get involved. Three thoughts: 1 - Being able to show which logged-in users submitted bugs would be a great help

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The map key isn't static anymore

2009-06-24 Thread Tom Chance
On Tuesday 23 Jun 2009 23:45:31 Tom Hughes wrote: The map key is now a HTML table instead of a static PNG image as can be seen on the dev server (click Map key): http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ (Should be on the main site soon) It's definitely an improvement but I think it raises

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-18 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:07:45 + (GMT), Joe Richards joefis...@yahoo.com You make a valid point, but the instant reaction of a few people I showed openstreetmap.org to in Australia was oh a map of Europe/UK. It was only after a bit of scrolling/panning that they got the idea, it was a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Tom Chance
On Wednesday 17 Jun 2009 19:19:20 Eric Wolf wrote: It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over the world. I'll submit a suggestion on trac for the appropriate changes to the stylesheets: http://tinyurl.com/ns8852 Regards, Tom

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-16 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:40:35 +0200, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com better IMHO would be to have thumbnails of same area, different design/features. I like this approach as part of the three column layout, and I would use four thumbnails for people to get at the map: - default - osmarender

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism in Kent/London area

2009-06-12 Thread Tom Chance
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:39:04 +0100, Greg Stark st...@mit.edu wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Shaun McDonaldsh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: You can view changesets in the data browser, by clicking more in the following list of edits: That just shows the result though. It doesn't

[Talk-GB] National parks

2009-04-05 Thread Tom Chance
I've noticed that somebody has added in the extent of Dartmoor national park, which is great to see. Where did the data for this come from? Is there any good way of getting this for the other parks? I'd love to add Snowdonia to the map. Regards, Tom

Re: [Talk-GB] Experiences after completing an area

2009-03-05 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:35:29 -, Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Birmingham group meets tonight. Will discuss and give some feedback afterwards. Thanks, that would be great. My initial view is that it takes time and effort to get the map noticed and

Re: [OSM-talk] License to kill

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Steve, Just to say - thanks for writing out this funny long email. I've been involved with debates over Creative Commons licenses and, boy, people love to stick their oar in where it doesn't belong! I also know Jordan, I had beers with him in Dubrovnik a couple of years ago, he's a great guy

Re: [OSM-talk] License to kill

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Chance
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:03:44 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Have you actually looked at what is on the Wiki and made an intelligent judgment that this is excellent info at every stage? Or are you just assuming there must be because someone said so? Personally, I would

[Talk-GB] Experiences after completing an area

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Chance
Hi there, Now that we are getting somewhere with our map of Sutton: http://tom.acrewoods.net/blog/2009/mar/sutton-green-map-update I'm thinking about promoting its use more widely. I've done some work with voluntary sector organisations, but I'd be interested to hear from people in Birmingham,

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

2009-03-03 Thread Tom Chance
Hey guys gals, get these thoughts onto the wiki! I've added some already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Front_Page Thanks to Steve the CloudMade designers for giving this some energy! Regards, Tom On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:37:29 +, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO - layer names

2009-03-03 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:12:21 -0800 (PST), Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Andy Allan wrote: Quite. Can someone please come up with names for the two main styles that aren't just the technology that creates them? Mapnik - Standard (or maybe 'Classic') Osmarender - Community A

Re: [OSM-talk] OT: making heat maps and overlaying on OSM data

2009-02-27 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:19:53 -0500 (EST), si...@mungewell.org wrote: Can anyone give me any tips on how to take a simple table of data with a figure for each coordinate, and turn it into a heat map? At first I thought of GeoCommons but it seems you can only use pre-processed data with their

[OSM-talk] OT: making heat maps and overlaying on OSM data

2009-02-26 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, I've been asked about representing some data on CO2 emissions at various coordinates on a heat map of Cambridge. There's also the possibility of doing this with a web interface, which I thought could just as well be OpenLayers with the OSM tiles. Can anyone give me any tips on how to take

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-23 Thread Tom Chance
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:46:09 +0100, Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com wrote: because... 1. ... every application trying to use the data has to deal with several taggings for the same thing. that's an unnecessary waste of resources. a script running on the database can minimize this

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:51:21 +, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: If you're going to change it, JOSM should really be updated at the same time, otherwise the tag will reappear. But updating JOSM isn't enough because peoople don't necessarily update it regularly. However, JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreet map.or g?

2009-02-17 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:50:04 +, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: OJ W wrote: and how come sidebars on the map can be opened by: * clicking on one of the external links (map key) * selecting a map layer (data viewer) * selecting a tab (export) * submitting a form (search) Because

Re: [Talk-GB] London Olympics

2008-12-12 Thread Tom Chance
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:23:41 -, Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Which brings us to another point. We have nearly 4 years to map all the Olympic venues. I wonder if there's scope to do some interesting maps that nobody else will provide as well / quickly?

Re: [Talk-GB] London Olympics

2008-12-12 Thread Tom Chance
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:43:49 -, Andy Robinson wrote: Tom Chance wrote: I wonder if there's scope to do some interesting maps that nobody else will provide as well / quickly? Or to encourage others to use OSM for their ends? If we want to compete we will have to be smart. The big

Re: [Talk-GB] Reading mapping party this weekend 13/14 Dec

2008-12-11 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:57:51 -, Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Reading mapping party this weekend will be hosted in Meeting Room 1 at RISC (Reading International Solidarity Centre) http://www.risc.org.uk Great! I'll probably turn up on Saturday for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Hierarchy of places search results

2008-11-28 Thread Tom Chance
Sorry, neglected to send this to the list... On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:14:54 +, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The discussion of finding Paris Ontario equated to Paris France just now reminds me to raise again the granularity of our place hierarchy. Notwithstanding value judgements

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its strangleholdover derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:58:43 -, Andy Robinson wrote: Donald Allwright wrote: This move is quite concerning, but underlines the need for OpenStreetMap to exist in the first place. I wonder if we should respond with some sort of marketing campaign, aimed at local authorities and other public

Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads

2008-11-07 Thread Tom Chance
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:30:34 +, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2008 06:48, Joshua Scotton wrote: They are roads on a uk industrial estate with the normal white lines in the middle of the road. Usually highway=service You might want to mark the boundary of the industrial

Re: [OSM-talk] Campus map - Who's got a good one?

2008-10-01 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:51:23 -0400, Richard Weait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also cast my vote for the best OSM campus map that I've seen so far. I'd love to hear of others. http://weait.com/bestcampus Glad to see my ancient efforts at Reading up there! If only we could get some aerial

[OSM-talk] OpenRouteService and footways/cycleways

2008-09-03 Thread Tom Chance
Hi all, I've been playing with http://openrouteservice.org and noticed that lots of routes are marked as footways even though they're on major cycle routes. For example, switch the the cycle map layer here and try to route along National Cycle Route 1. You can't do it!

Re: [Talk-GB] Routing through Oxford

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Chance
On Monday 11 August 2008 18:59:17 Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: Oxford is supposedly one of the better mapped cities in OSM, and looking at the map seems to agree, but a lot of problems show up when you try to route through it using Gosmore. Hey, this site is great, I didn't know about it. Shame

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Southwark Park Road and Blue, SE16

2008-07-31 Thread Tom Chance
Hullo, If people are good with inputting the data, the Osmarender layer could be updated the night before the first walkabout: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.50131lon=-0.09365zoom=16layers=0B0FTF Kind regards, Tom On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:38:43 +0100, Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Steve, On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:47:49 +0100, Steve Chilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just noticed that this weekend it is exactly a year since I submitted my first mapnik style patch. As someone who has run off with the OSM stylesheet and spent a lot of time making a slightly different

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into map and data projects

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Chance
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Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usabili tyof the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Chance
Hullo, I have a lot of sympathy with Inge's frustration; I think there are soem useful points made. I also sympathise with the people maintaining the stylesheets, having spent a fair bit of time customising the OSM stylesheet for map.oneplanetsutton.org We could get better at showing more place

Re: [OSM-talk] Enabling communities to use OSM as a planning tool

2008-06-04 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Andy, On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:54:53 +0100, Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This brings me to the point though. Currently we map physical features as they exist and in some cases the alignment of known construction, what we do not do is use OSM as a planning tool.

[Talk-GB] Sutton party report

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, Thanks to Shaun, Tim, Thomas, Philip, Steve and others who turned up to help out on the day, with good weather and a pub trip afterwards people seemed to have fun and show off their new OSM hi-vis vests :) We've almost completed the London Borough of Sutton, and should be able to complete

[Talk-GB] Reminder - Sutton mapping party this Saturday, help complete a London Borough!

2008-05-20 Thread Tom Chance
Hello all, Just to remind people that there's a mapping party in Worcester Park, Sutton, SW London this Saturday. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Sutton_England/Mapping_party We've had lots of interest from the local community, councillors, transport people in the council,

Re: [OSM-talk] Partners sought for cycle routing project

2008-05-12 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Frederik, Just quickly, I am interested and my employer - www.bioregional.com - could be a partner on the bid. We're using OSM as part of a municipality sustainability project so this would be right up our street. I will talk to the council about getting them on board too. I've copied my

[OSM-talk] Static maps using the new export function

2008-04-25 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, I can't see an obvious way to do this, maybe I just need to dig around in the code behind the export tab, but is it possible to already do something similar to the Google static maps feature, i.e. allow people to just specify a URL in an img tag and have the static image with optional

Re: [OSM-talk] Static maps using the new export function

2008-04-25 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:03:46 +0100, Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Chance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't see an obvious way to do this, maybe I just need to dig around in the code behind the export tab, but is it possible to already do

Re: [OSM-talk] Static maps using the new export function

2008-04-25 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:50:16 +0200, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Schmidt wrote: Assuming that the export tab exported a simple, copy-paste friendly HTML view, would that help solve the technical hurdles? You mean to create a HTML snippet that would, with some

[OSM-talk] Sutton mapping party - 24/25 May (SW London)

2008-04-24 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, The details are now finalised, we have the use of the local library with free wifi, support from a local councillor and various local groups including a school and scout group all interested! I'll be getting onto the local media soon too. After the really successful Surrey mapping party

[OSM-talk] Marble/KDE and Google Summer of Code

2008-03-26 Thread Tom Chance
Hi all, Just thought people might be interested in this blog entry from Torsten about plans for Marble, KDE's generic geographical map widget and framework: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3350 He lists some SoC projects making use of OSM, it's shaping up to be a really nice cross-platform

Re: [OSM-talk] Participating in TAH

2008-03-26 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:48:26 -, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a handful of machines at my disposal (less than ten but more than three!) that I'm interested in using to contribute towards rendering tiles. However, I can't find an easy way of signing up, I can't

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering power lines: black is beauty

2008-03-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:55:02 +0100 (CET), Karl Eichwalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things not too important, we are rendering highly visible with the nice black color. They are also obfuscating tracks: Agreed! Look at this map view:

Re: [OSM-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-18 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:03:48 +, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: land information new zealand is a government org that holds data on roads and properties for the entirety of new zealand. they have

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering with mapnik, what do I need?

2008-02-22 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:01:39 +0100, Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say I would like to set up a server myself. I want to: * show highways more with the colours used on Michelin maps * show a bicycle map as three overlays (transparent, with a possibility to switch them on and off) *

[Talk-GB] Mapping project parties in Sutton, SW London

2008-02-07 Thread Tom Chance
Hello all, I work for an environmental charity that is working on a big sustainability project with the London Borough of Sutton. We're going to use OpenStreetMap for a lot of our work, so I've started a mapping project page on the wiki to track how much data we have so far:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-04 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:47:44 +, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Feb 2008, at 13:46, David Earl wrote: how do we avoid the situation where e.g. someone who disagrees the new license has run a bot over all of Cambridge to tweak things (as has indeed happened to many of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-02-02 Thread Tom Chance
On Tuesday 29 January 2008 08:13:57 Michael Collinson wrote: As to way forward, I suggest there are 3 options: - Depreciate the viaduct tag entirely [*] - Use viaduct=yes - Complement the generic bridge=yes tag and develop a specialist bridge type tag for bridge devotees with precise

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:11:34 +, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 29, 2008 8:13 AM, Michael Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to way forward, I suggest there are 3 options: - Depreciate the viaduct tag entirely [*] - Use viaduct=yes - Complement the generic

Re: [OSM-talk] travel-time-maps

2008-01-19 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, I'm thrilled to hear that people are still working on this, I recently emailed Tom at mySociety to ask about it. I'm trying to find a way to use free data and tools including OpenStreetMap for a big community regeneration project in Sutton, South London, and analysis of transport and

Re: [Talk-GB] Spring and summer UK countryside mapping parties

2008-01-04 Thread Tom Chance
On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 10:58 +, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Well, it's that time of year again I guess where our thoughts turn thoroughly to the upcoming spring and summer, and I'd like to suggest a couple of UK outdoors-orientated mapping parties. I might be interested in these, especially the

Re: [OSM-talk] Application idea - OSMSiteMaker

2007-12-21 Thread Tom Chance
On Friday 21 December 2007 09:04:54 Nick Whitelegg wrote: Was thinking that it might be an idea to develop an application to allow people to set up their own local OSM-based sites for very local areas e.g. 20x20 miles - in the UK, that could include, for example, the New Forest, the Lake

[Talk-GB] Help develop green mapping in London - job opportunity

2007-10-16 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, Was sent this by an ex-colleague, might interested people on this list... London 21 Sustainability Network is a unique environmental charity supporting community-based action for sustainability throughout London. We are looking for an officer to help develop and deliver an exciting new

[Talk-GB] London Cycle Network wiki project

2007-10-14 Thread Tom Chance
Hello Londoners, I've started a wiki page to try and keep track of the London Cycle Network: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_London_Cycle_Network I find it quite difficult to map compared to the Sustrans routes, with routes doubling back on themselves, going

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode search on slippy map

2007-09-01 Thread Tom Chance
On Saturday 01 September 2007 16:36:26 Nick Burch wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Tom Hughes wrote: I'm not sure if npemaps queries FTP in real time though, or if they have a cached copy of the FTP database that might be out of date? The NPEMaps database wasn't automatically importing from FTP,

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode search on slippy map

2007-08-25 Thread Tom Chance
On Friday 24 August 2007 18:45:14 Tom Hughes wrote: In fact neither database seems to be giving a hit for that postcode at the moment - the npemaps combined API that we use is:   http://www.npemap.org.uk/cgi/geocoder.fcgi?format=textpostcode=ab12+3cd That would be because I made it up :D I

[Talk-GB] Postcode search on slippy map

2007-08-24 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, What's the status of this? I've put about lots of codes around my area into FreeThePostcode, but when I search for my flat's code it replaces the last two letters with ##. So for example AB12 3CD just comes out with AB12 3##, which loses a lot of granularity. I have about ten codes

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