Re: [Talk-GB] Building that have been replaced

2017-08-03 Thread Warin
How different is the footprint of the new building? I would think that the new building will be of a similar size to the old one - given the planing permissions. So unless you intend to put in the new building .. I would leave it alone - that gives at least an indication that there is a

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

2017-07-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Jul-17 03:03 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 10/07/2017 14:26, Stuart Reynolds wrote: I have also come across several styles of station tagging, even in my local (single line) area. What'd be really useful, actually, would someone pointing at a good "example station" in an OSM diary entry

Re: [talk-au] TAGGING a 'club' to a suburb rather than its actual street address ot isolate risk of theft/abuse

2017-07-06 Thread Warin
.. particularly to people local in the area. On 06-Jul-17 08:21 PM, Gary Pope wrote: Warin All good input - agreed.The generic use of 'president.@gmail.com is already well adhered to. And the matter of searching in the end or the Club as a second step I agree with. It is in fact, from

Re: [talk-au] TAGGING a 'club' to a suburb rather than its actual street address ot isolate risk of theft/abuse

2017-07-06 Thread Warin
Hi, Andrew has it correct ... the map shows the actual location. Many things on the map could be targets for theft - car mechanics garages for instance. Sorry but I don't see anyway that an area can be mapped for a club workshop, the address will be found to anyone who really wants it, all that

[talk-au] White Pages using OSM map - with accreditation

2017-06-25 Thread Warin
Hi Just noticed the online white pages is using OSM ! Maybe I'm behind the times.. :) https://www.whitepages.com.au/nsw-ambulance-10025780/ambulance-bookings-10025771B Would Sensis now consider releasing their data freely to OSM ... humm? Maybe the Sensis data is also copyright elsewhere

[talk-au] Accuracy LPI Base Map, or Geoscience Australia TOPO 250K

2017-06-16 Thread Warin
Hi, Looking at Node: Windmill Hill (3002570699) it is currently sourced from Geoscience Australia GEODATA TOPO 250K Series 3 The LPI topo map has the hill some 100 meters to the south and supports itself with the topo lines shown. So which is more accurate? I'd go for the LPI data

Re: [talk-au] Ozie windmills

2017-06-13 Thread Warin
On 13-Jun-17 09:40 AM, Warin wrote: Hi, There looks to be a good tag to use for the old windmills man_made=windpump https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwindpump This separates it from the European wind mills that have fabric blades man_made=windmill http

[talk-au] Ozie windmills

2017-06-12 Thread Warin
Hi, There looks to be a good tag to use for the old windmills man_made=windpump https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwindpump This separates it from the European wind mills that have fabric blades man_made=windmill http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwindmill

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-06-05 Thread Warin
On 06-Jun-17 08:36 AM, Dave F wrote: On 05/06/2017 22:55, Warin wrote: Threads, like conversations, drift Dave. And? So my reply applies to the drifted topic .. refer to /On 4 Jun 2017 4:44 p.m., "Matt Ellery" //wrote:// / /Hi,// // / /On a semi-related topic,// / and then to

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-06-05 Thread Warin
Threads, like conversations, drift Dave. On 05-Jun-17 09:35 PM, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, Yes, it's what I did regarding the original topic of this conversation. That's all sorted now. I think Warin refers to Matt Ellery's additional query from yesterday regarding a different mapper who has been

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-06-04 Thread Warin
On 05-Jun-17 02:43 AM, Adam Snape wrote: Yep, the name tag is only for the name. Any other details should be a tagged separately. It might be worth contacting the user as he is a prolific editor and continues to use the name tag for descriptions egs.

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-06-03 Thread Warin
On 03-Jun-17 08:22 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 2 June 2017 at 18:48, Mark Pulley <mrpul...@lizzy.com.au> wrote: Quoting Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: _Truck Parking_ Some places have had the name 'Truck Parking' applied to them (service roads, parking areas and rest areas too).

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-06-02 Thread Warin
ley <mrpul...@lizzy.com.au <mailto:mrpul...@lizzy.com.au>> wrote: > Quoting Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: > >> _Truck Parking_ >> Some places have had the name 'Truck Parking' applied to them

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-06-01 Thread Warin
have learnt (at my cost) to be careful when mapping. I am a good deal less cautious on lists and the wiki - sometimes I like to 'stir the pot'. On 03-May-17 10:33 AM, David Bannon wrote: Warin, I agree with you in theory. I almost never camp at a site without a toilet because such camp sites

Re: [talk-au] nodes of a business placed on a road

2017-05-26 Thread Warin
On 26-May-17 07:34 PM, nwastra wrote: These edits are just nodes of a business placed on a road without a physical building coincidentally mapped. Is this allowed? This is OSM... 'everything is allowed'. :P However .. not good practice. Firstly the business node should ideally be off to the

Re: [talk-au] Tagging - World Solar Challenge - Darwin to Adelaide

2017-05-19 Thread Warin
On 19-May-17 09:30 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 19/05/2017 11:19, Alex Sims wrote: I’m not quite sure how to resolve this. There is a relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7107501#map=5/-24.173/134.723 for the World Solar Challenge that runs from Darwin to Adelaide. It is a

Re: [talk-au] Tagging - World Solar Challenge - Darwin to Adelaide

2017-05-19 Thread Warin
On 19-May-17 08:54 PM, nwastra wrote: I would like to see additional tags to specify the period that the World Solar Challenge route is being used for the actual race. Not so sure about the route relation remaining as a mapped entity after the race is completed but do not really see a reason

Re: [talk-au] Tagging - World Solar Challenge - Darwin to Adelaide

2017-05-19 Thread Warin
On 19-May-17 08:19 PM, Alex Sims wrote: I’m not quite sure how to resolve this. There is a relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7107501#map=5/-24.173/134.723 for the World Solar Challenge that runs from Darwin to Adelaide. It is a relation tagged as highway=raceway I would delete

Re: [talk-au] Mobile phone towers

2017-05-06 Thread Warin
Worry? No. The tag operator=* could be used, if you want. On 07-May-17 03:24 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Just putting a nearby newish mobile tower on the map. Due we worry about naming who's tower it is? Couldn't see anything in the wiki about it. Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-05-01 Thread Warin
t, would they be a tent or a caravan? For a short stop they don't usually need to be pegged down as a tent has to be, but they're also not just a pull up, open the door & that's it caravan? Graeme On 30 April 2017 at 10:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-26 Thread Warin
of answering my own question, there is a key, camp_site=* that is intended to apply to tourism=camp_site. Could you apply it to a rest area as well ? highway=rest_area camp_site=basic caravan=yes tent=no David On 26/04/17 17:17, David Bannon wrote: On 25/04/17 20:33, Warin wrote: Take

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-26 Thread Warin
On 26-Apr-17 05:17 PM, David Bannon wrote: On 25/04/17 20:33, Warin wrote: Take the respective 'tourism=camp_site' data to 'highway=rest_area' with 'caravan=yes'. Just what will that mean then ? That a caravan can pull into the rest area ? We will loose the information that camping

Re: [Talk-GB] Open Litter Map now online

2017-04-25 Thread Warin
On 25-Apr-17 08:19 PM, David Woolley wrote: On 25/04/17 10:44, Dave F wrote: Unsure how you expect this site to reduce litter. It's not going to prevent people dropping their waste & it's more productive to contact your local authority to get fly-tipping debris removed. +1 A Mayor of North

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-25 Thread Warin
then what? Look at the LIP data? And if not there .. then contact the mapper. Comments?? (I was expecting more of the camp site tagging.) On 20-Apr-17 10:38 AM, Warin wrote: Rest Areas ... a summary so far? _Best tag_ to use is highway=rest_area as this reflects what they actually are.

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-23 Thread Warin
On 24-Apr-17 09:47 AM, Nicholas G Lawrence wrote: There are also Driver Reviver spots which may also be useful to capture? Cheers, Nick Lawrence I see 'Driver Reviver' as temporary - usually a holiday peak thing manned by a local charity (Rotary etc). They also appear in 'rest areas'.

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-20 Thread Warin
On 20-Apr-17 06:07 PM, David Bannon wrote: Warin, may I please refer you to the first sentence from the tourism=camp_site tag ? "A campsite <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:campsite> or campground is an area, usually divided into a number of pitches, where people can camp over

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-19 Thread Warin
Rest Areas ... a summary so far? _Best tag_ to use is highway=rest_area as this reflects what they actually are. _'Camping_' is limited in most of these due to the hard surfaces, it would be better to use a caravan tag where this is 'on the ground truth'. A tag to use under rest area looks

[talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-18 Thread Warin
Hi, I have seen a few roadside 'rest areas' tagged in OSM as camp sites. At least some of these are not suitable for pitching a tent .. so they are not camp sites. At best they could be used by a caravan/RV ... but not a tent user (I am a tent user). If the intention was to indicate

Re: [talk-au] Finding map errors

2017-04-13 Thread Warin
On 05-Apr-17 06:36 PM, Warin wrote: Ok ...progress on multipolygon errors These are are now down (152 file size) to mostly large things .. like relations for boundaries of the states, Australia ... I don't see anything wrong with them .. other than very long ways, and I think that may

Re: [OSM-talk] A forest ... what?

2017-04-10 Thread Warin
The subject question ... To me: An OSM forest is what? OSM uses landuse=forest ... so the and is used for forestRy (note the R) ... to grow trees and use them for some human productive activity ... like eventually making paper. An OSM wood ? Here OSM uses 'natural=wood' so a place where

Re: [talk-au] Finding map errors

2017-04-05 Thread Warin
. There maybe some that can be fixed just using the OSM data .. for instance a section of one way road that should be connected to its partner opposing one way road and isn't. On 01-Apr-17 02:16 PM, Warin wrote: The tools for finding map errors are one way of finding some map errors. Additionally I am

[talk-au] Finding map errors

2017-03-31 Thread Warin
The tools for finding map errors are one way of finding some map errors. Additionally I am looking at rendering errors and gradually 'fixing' them. As a comparison I have used the errors reported on http://alternativaslibres.org/en/downloads.php for the UK and OZ as; these are updated daily so

Re: [Talk-GB] Layby restricted to abnormal loads

2017-03-30 Thread Warin
On 30-Mar-17 05:00 PM, David Woolley wrote: On 29/03/17 21:32, ael wrote: and, for good measure, hgv=permissive. Permissive sounds wrong to me. Permissive basically reflects the rights of the land owner, and for users is the same as yes. ___

Re: [talk-au] Tasmanian Vegetation

2017-03-27 Thread Warin
Suggest mapper https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/RoundCircle as they added the south west data. On 28-Mar-17 11:12 AM, Karl Howard wrote: Hello, I have been pointed in this direction in relation to my query in OpenStreetMap Help

Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon source tags preferred method

2017-03-27 Thread Warin
You will have an objection from me! Source tags on features within the OSM data base have not been depreciated to my knowledge.. if they were I would more to revert that depreciation. On 28-Mar-17 01:06 AM, nwastra wrote: Jochen, ridding the osm of these unnecessary source tags seems like a

Re: [talk-au] NSW Rail Data Import

2017-03-26 Thread Warin
Welcome indeed Patricia! By placing your data into OSM there is legal stuff to consider .. the entered data becomes available for anyone to use. Some simple reading for non lawyers http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright Conflating or merging your data can be tedious where both data

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Postcode Checking

2017-03-05 Thread Warin
On 06-Mar-17 07:30 AM, Colin Smale wrote: On 2017-03-05 21:16, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: People making mistakes on their websites with their own postcodes is more common than you might think. What does OSM's "on the ground" rule make of this? Do we tag the correct postcode

Re: [talk-au] Hume and Hovel Walking Track in the Bargo SF

2017-02-28 Thread Warin
do when I got good traces. John On 21/02/17 11:30, Warin wrote: For comparison of the data I have added; Way: 475962239 - LPI path - probably H http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/475962239#map=16/-35.6419/148.2472 Way 475966488 - Strava path - probably H http://www.openstreetmap.org/way

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering hill figures

2017-02-27 Thread Warin
On 27-Feb-17 08:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-02-26 23:07 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett >: The Fovant badges http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.05348/-1.97971

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2017-02-22 Thread Warin
On 23-Feb-17 01:28 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 13.08.2016 16:10, Ruben Maes napisał(a): On vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 15:47 Daniel Koć wrote: What should I do with clear spam acconts/comments like this?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/thepackersmoversdelhicom

Re: [talk-au] Hume and Hovel Walking Track in the Bargo SF

2017-02-20 Thread Warin
For comparison of the data I have added; Way: 475962239 - LPI path - probably H http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/475962239#map=16/-35.6419/148.2472 Way 475966488 - Strava path - probably H http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/475966488#map=16/-35.6419/148.2472 OSM H presently in that area; Way

Re: [talk-au] Hume and Hovel Walking Track in the Bargo SF

2017-02-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Feb-17 06:10 AM, John Henderson wrote: On 20/02/17 20:49, Warin wrote: I'd no be worried by 10 m ... the differences are ~100 metres in places. Might be more in some places too .. have not been measuring .. just concerned at the differences. It could be as simple as running off a map

Re: [talk-au] Hume and Hovel Walking Track in the Bargo SF

2017-02-20 Thread Warin
On 20-Feb-17 03:22 PM, John Henderson wrote: On 20/02/17 14:52, Warin wrote: Anyone with any experience Hume and Hovel Walking Track? I did the original entry of the section from Yass through Wee Jasper to Brindabella Road years ago. The data came from my Garmin 60 CSx handheld GPS. My 60

[talk-au] Hume and Hovel Walking Track in the Bargo SF

2017-02-19 Thread Warin
Hi, I am looking at the Bargo Sate Forest area at the moment and adding things. The Hume and Hovel Walking Track goes through here and is entered in OSM. However the LPI Base Map also has some of this marked ... in I think greater detail and possibly better accuracy. I think the present

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate ways in multipolygon relations

2017-02-18 Thread Warin
More Problems 1) Source .. the source tags can be in the relation and not the way ... Change the way to the new source and yet the other relations all say it is some other source. My conclusion is that the source should be on the way. 2) Are the other relations, that refer to this way,

Re: [talk-au] A possible CAPAD 2016 import?

2017-02-17 Thread Warin
On 17-Feb-17 09:04 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: The good folks at DoEE have been more helpful and have given us permission to use future releases of CAPAD under the same terms. Given that the next release of CAPAD is due out in a number of weeks it raises the question should we wait and then do

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-15 Thread Warin
On 16-Feb-17 10:52 AM, Paul Norman wrote: On 2/15/2017 2:51 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: There is a comparison map where you can see the changes: https://osmium.osm2pgsql.paulnorman.ca There are some notable holes, for example in the woods of Scandinavia. It would be great if they are gone by

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-12 Thread Warin
On 13-Feb-17 09:07 AM, Dyserth wrote: Hi all you happy people. Hi.. and a warm welcome from me. I am now subscribed to this mailing list (which I had not previously been aware of) so I can more easily find myself being openly criticized by certain "senior" individuals involved in

Re: [talk-au] When is a Road a Track

2017-02-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Feb-17 11:28 AM, Ross Scanlon wrote: On 11/02/17 07:00, Warin wrote: The NSW LPT base map is particularly helpful for road classifications .. tracks, unclassified, tertiary and paths. It is in some ways better than a survey as it looks to take into account the importance

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Feb-17 07:42 AM, Brian Prangle wrote: I've removed the offending tags from areas I know well,having walked them off and on for 30 years,i.e Snowdon massif, Glyders and Berwyns. I've left the poylgons suitably commented. Regards Brian On 9 February 2017 at 10:10, SK53

Re: [talk-au] When is a Road a Track

2017-02-10 Thread Warin
The NSW LPT base map is particularly helpful for road classifications .. tracks, unclassified, tertiary and paths. It is in some ways better than a survey as it looks to take into account the importance to the community and that is very hard to determine by simply travelling the road. Where a

Re: [talk-au] When is a Road a Track

2017-02-09 Thread Warin
Does the Main roads Department show residential roads? If not then I would also assume that the unclassified roads would not necessarily be displayed either. On their website .. https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/OurRoads/Facts/Pages/StateRoadNetworkMaps.aspx they say "In the future, this may

[talk-au] LPI sources, not the Base Map

2017-02-07 Thread Warin
Hi, I have come across a boundary between 2 state forests that are not shown on the LPI Base Map .. yet the source tag claims that is where it comes from. I think the source is the LPI admin boundary data .. and that is probably where they have come from. It is Way: 387068735, most of it

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for Pipeline Reserves

2017-02-07 Thread Warin
On 08-Feb-17 12:10 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: On 08/02/17 11:00, Warin wrote: Some pipe lines cross farms, residential areas ... so ? I will ask on the tagging list as it is not Australian specific. I note the pipeline is not visible ... I assume underground and the location is not evident so

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for Pipeline Reserves

2017-02-07 Thread Warin
Some pipe lines cross farms, residential areas ... so ? I will ask on the tagging list as it is not Australian specific. I note the pipeline is not visible ... I assume underground and the location is not evident so you cannot map the pipe line itself. As far as most people are concerned it

[talk-au] Harmonisation of the source tag for LPI Base Map

2017-02-07 Thread Warin
Hi, One mapper (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/LPISourceTagFix) has taken on themselves to 'harmonise' all the source tags that they consider should be 'NSW LPI Base Map'. No consultation - mass mechanical edit. I had some source tagged LPI Hydrology .. these too have been changed.

Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

2017-02-05 Thread Warin
I have made a changeset comment ... I hope they respond. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45454430 My Comment is "The changeset comment "These places are important" is subjective. Far better to state something like "added park in my local area." I have added the playgrounds to these

Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-05 Thread Warin
On 06-Feb-17 10:14 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 6 February 2017 at 06:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Why use Bing Maps? For OSM it would be far better to use the LIP Base map for the address data and then use the LPI Imagery for the building footprint. That aside and the sc

Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-05 Thread Warin
Why use Bing Maps? For OSM it would be far better to use the LIP Base map for the address data and then use the LPI Imagery for the building footprint. On 05-Feb-17 01:59 PM, Timur Behlul wrote: Hi All, I have been scraping rental properties off the net for an analysis I am doing on

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread Warin
It is 'nice' to see the progress of OSM. Rather than a yearly thing .. every 7 years might be ok, there was a TV program on some children progressing into adulthood .. think that was done every 7 or so years too. On 29-Jan-17 05:12 AM, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Martin, Thank you, great

Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-28 Thread Warin
Welcome Cameron! Anything you can do to improve the map is most welcome. As far as comments go - 2 aspects to this ; on the overall changeset - when you upload the data- Most like to see something descriptive ... I like to see some comment on the source of the information on the individual

Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Warin
://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game Certainly seems like a lot of these new contributors could be doing it for this reason. On 28 January 2017 at 09:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I have examined the chang

Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Warin
. One I have edited out as it removed a road, replacing it with a foot path. I have left comments for most new users ... giving information, and questioning a few things ... like a house (possibly their home) being made into a park On 28-Jan-17 08:03 AM, Warin wrote: The cycleway routing

Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Warin
The cycleway routing should take note of footways that have the tag bicycle=yes ... Most people don't notice the bicycle signs as they are not using a bicycle. So adding the bicycle=yes tag is simple and does not cause conflict/edit wars. To me a cycle way should be principally used by

Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

2017-01-25 Thread Warin
On 26-Jan-17 10:25 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool? Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake? No Limits? You could mark a swimming pool anywhere ... and provided it is a 'swimming pool' then it would be correct to

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Jan-17 07:23 AM, Dan S wrote: 2017-01-17 19:50 GMT+00:00 Dave F >: "The Bow Quarter" appears to be an attempt to posh up the area. Gated communities scare me as the most dangerous people are usually inside the

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Jan-17 07:27 AM, Dave F wrote: On 17/01/2017 19:38, Warin wrote: Generally I add a node place=farm as I am not certain where the boundary lies This is a misuse of this tag. place=farm is for the rare (non existent?) cases where a residential community, such as a hamlet, has

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Transport Smart Cards

2017-01-16 Thread Warin
On 17-Jan-17 07:27 AM, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone TfWM have recently introduced the Swift Card ( similar to TfL's Oyster Card) and have started installing Swift Collectors in bus shelters and bus stations. Swift Collectors are where you insert your Swift Card to get the stored-value

Re: [talk-au] Advice on Tags in a Hamlet

2017-01-15 Thread Warin
On 16-Jan-17 03:21 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Placing of the hamlet (or other place) names is always fuzzy. Where it is now renders well on the map, if you place it centrally that may overwrite other objects - cluttering t

Re: [talk-au] Advice on Tags in a Hamlet

2017-01-15 Thread Warin
Not uncommon for a road to have several names along its length. Many main roads do this though towns - the Great Western Highway can have another name through the town then revert back to the Great Western Highway. I too, like Simon, would take some short section of this road and tag it

Re: [Talk-GB] beetroot or beet

2017-01-13 Thread Warin
:) Ok... beets are vegetables.. (I hope). I do like an organised tagging scheme, so I am using produce=vegetable, then vegetable=* This have two effects; a better organisation structure and the possibility to tag a field as produce=vegetable without specifying the vegetable. It also

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2017-01-12 Thread Warin
On 10-Jan-17 07:19 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: So you want to put these areas into OSM, fair enough. But why do we have to break the definition of admin_level 6 when there are three admin_levels that are currently undefined, unusable, or redundant? That would also suggest that states and

Re: [Talk-in] [BLR] Volunteers needed for mapping camp for residents of Indiranagar

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
On 12-Jan-17 06:08 PM, Arun Ganesh wrote: The citizen of the Indiranagar RWA have requested help to teach them how to map their locality to document the trees, footpaths, landuse and other amenities to help them take action against illegal felling of trees and unauthorized commercialization of

Re: [talk-au] How to label illegal tracks?

2017-01-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Jan-17 03:46 PM, Eon4wd wrote: Hi, This is my first time so not exactly sure of protocols and procedures. I have been out mapping in my area by survey. I have particular interest in 4wd tracks and bush camping access. I have some questions that I am not sure how to handle There are a

Re: [talk-au] Public source for street numbers

2017-01-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Jan-17 12:17 AM, Luke Picciau wrote: Are there any free to use sources for street numbers and property borders? I have seen quite a lot of maps that have all the street numbers and property borders and I cant see how they would have this without some kind of government source. Anyone

Re: [Talk-GB] beetroot or beet

2017-01-09 Thread Warin
On 10-Jan-17 12:44 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 10/01/17 01:20, David Groom wrote: ... Tag info shows 579 ways tagged with crop = beet, of these 572 are in northern Italy added by 3 users, so its probably quite easy to ask what exactly they meant by "beet" , and retag these existing ways if

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated wifi=* edits

2017-01-09 Thread Warin
On 10-Jan-17 11:17 AM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: 2017-01-09 21:08 GMT-03:00 Andy Mabbett : On 8 January 2017 at 14:04, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote: this is a question about automated edits of the "wifi" key. The goal would be to have all these

[Talk-GB] beetroot or beet

2017-01-09 Thread Warin
Hi again, another UK English question. I use beetroot .. but beet has been used on the wiki. I think beet comes from American English. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] crop=grass or sod

2017-01-09 Thread Warin
On 10-Jan-17 08:48 AM, Paul Sladen wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2017, SK53 wrote: Turf has the distinct advantage of being less likely to generate sniggers. But a risk of turf wars...? Ok.. add turf to the mix My dictionary for sources says turf - Middle English (1100-1500) from Old

[Talk-GB] crop=grass or sod

2017-01-09 Thread Warin
Hi, There are a number of farms near me (on a flood plain) that are used to produce grass. However when I look it up on wikipedia .. I get sod. And, yes, I will know what you mean if you tell me to 'sod off' :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sod I am wondering what is 'best' GB English

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2017-01-04 Thread Warin
On 03-Jan-17 04:15 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 3/1/17 13:24, Warin wrote: Near as I can figure .. your joking. No I'm being serious. Your proposal is to use level 6 to map the entity "that performs the function of a 'local government authority'". In the case of the western p

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2017-01-02 Thread Warin
On 02-Jan-17 08:12 AM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 30/12/16 10:44, Warin wrote: It does have an administration that performs the function of a 'local government authority'. There is an administration that performs the function of a 'local administration' . The authority exercised

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-29 Thread Warin
On 29-Dec-16 04:51 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 29/12/16 09:08, cleary wrote: I have a different view about whether the unincorporated areas actually exist. They have defined boundaries and names, both assigned by the respective State governments, and included in the LGA datasets. I have

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-28 Thread Warin
On 29-Dec-16 09:30 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all I would agree with Warin's latest suggested definition: "The boundary of an authority that is responsible for local government functions within that boundary." If there's "something"

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-28 Thread Warin
On 28-Dec-16 06:57 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 28/12/16 17:51, cleary wrote: In suggesting the term "Local Government Area", I was thinking of areas as shown in the Local Government Areas (LGA) datasets issued by state and territory governments The LGA dataset have metadata in them that

Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

2016-12-27 Thread Warin
Targeting Pokemon contributors falls into a trap... the assumption that a particular activity/group are all inclined to vandalism. These new contributors could be very usefull ... if 'we' don't tar them all with abusive thoughts. On 28-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Rod Bera wrote: Hi Andy, just to make

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-23 Thread Warin
On 24-Dec-16 04:40 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 23/12/16 09:50, cleary wrote: I suggest a simple one-word change in the wiki so that Level 6 administrative boundaries in Australia would read "Local Government Area Border (e.g Shire/Council)" replacing "Local Government Authority Border (e.g

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-22 Thread Warin
a" in the wiki. Is this suggestion generally acceptable or could someone else suggest a more acceptable solution to the question? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016, at 08:48 AM, Warin wrote: On 21-Dec-16 05:10 PM, Warin wrote: Hummm How about looking at it from a data consumers view point? Who would use

Re: [talk-au] When is a road, not a road?

2016-12-22 Thread Warin
What do the missing roads look like on aerial imagery? On 22/12/16 16:06, Warin wrote: On 22-Dec-16 03:59 PM, Warren wrote: I suspect the answer to this question is simple. Following Sam Wilson's post about the data sources available for Western Australian Roads, and using Sam's approach

Re: [talk-au] When is a road, not a road?

2016-12-21 Thread Warin
On 22-Dec-16 03:59 PM, Warren wrote: I suspect the answer to this question is simple. Following Sam Wilson's post about the data sources available for Western Australian Roads, and using Sam's approach I have begun adding and checking road names in WA. In the area that I am currently

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-21 Thread Warin
On 21-Dec-16 05:10 PM, Warin wrote: Hummm How about looking at it from a data consumers view point? Who would use boundary level 6 and what for? A resident/occupier/potential purchaser/developer may want to know who is the relevant authority for a particular property ... A new employee many

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-20 Thread Warin
Hummm How about looking at it from a data consumers view point? Who would use boundary level 6 and what for? A resident/occupier/potential purchaser/developer may want to know who is the relevant authority for a particular property ... A new employee many want confirmation of the boundaries of

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Dec-16 04:19 PM, Warin wrote: On 21-Dec-16 04:09 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 2016-12-21 15:57, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Just want to point out the advice from the wiki: /Don't map your local legislation, if not bound to objects in reality/ /Things such as local traffic rules should only

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Dec-16 04:09 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 2016-12-21 15:57, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Just want to point out the advice from the wiki: /Don't map your local legislation, if not bound to objects in reality/ /Things such as local traffic rules should only be mapped through the objects which

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Dec-16 11:38 AM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 2016-12-21 11:01, Warin wrote: So the governance is irrelevant to the issue ... the area is managed by 'something' ..that 'something' should be treated the same way in OSM for the same function. The area is managed by the State of New South

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Dec-16 09:15 AM, cleary wrote: I have been adding administrative boundaries in NSW and SA using the Government data for which OSM has been given explicit permission. I am currently working on the "Pastoral Unincorporated Area" in SA and another mapper commented that it was inappropriate. I

[talk-au] Deletions was Re: Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Dec-16 10:45 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: As a side issue: I don't believe that a mapper's work should be deleted by anyone other than the mapper themselves, unless it is agreed on this list that the work was vandalism or copyright violation. I too don't like deleting stuff ... even my own.

Re: [talk-au] Proposed Brisbane City Council Datasets Import

2016-12-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Dec-16 01:04 PM, Reuben wrote: Hi all, I am just wanting some feedback on correlating data from the following datasets: https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/historic-cemeteries https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/cemeteries

Re: [talk-au] OSM maps for landcover+landuse, public transport

2016-12-17 Thread Warin
ve been found, or the permission to use the data may not have been given. I note that the site could be taken down without notice.. so use with caution. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Two maps worth a s

[talk-au] OSM maps for landcover+landuse, public transport

2016-12-17 Thread Warin
Two maps worth a share (they work in Sydney and other places in OZ): http://osmlanduse.org/#12/151.1499/-33.80911/0/ Land use and land cover. If it were me I'd rather see these as separate maps. Does not do well with the Wollemi NP ... The

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