Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-17 Thread Rory McCann
On 17/01/18 09:28, Marco wrote: 2) I've always been using the "changesets w/comments" line of the HDYC page to double check suspicious mappers. Have you considered filtering out changesets with comments and `review_requested=yes`? IMO if someone requests a review, they *want* a comment, even

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-17 Thread Lester Caine
On 17/01/18 09:46, Frederik Ramm wrote: It's like clapping your hands to the supermarket cashier every time he/she prints you the receipt. I had to smile at that one. Reminds me off the developers lists where there is more traffic of the 'I like that' than actual constructive contributions.

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 17.01.2018 09:28, Marco wrote: > It's like clapping > your hands to the supermarket cashier every time he/she prints you the > receipt. I had to smile at that one. I think users should either be able to opt out of automatically generated changeset comments, or perhaps such changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-17 Thread Marco
Agree with you, I don't really like this feature, mainly for two reasons: 1) I see myself as a quite experienced mapper and I guess pretty much 99% of my edits improved the map, I think it's nice to see that someone double checks some of my edits using osmcha or achavi, but I also think

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-13 Thread michael spreng
Hi > correctly then it is not automatic. It is posted from other tool/site > but allowing this is a purpose of API. > > Is there any evidence that these > comments are spammy or used in de-facto automatic fashion? Os its it > really automatic and I misunderstand situation. > I just tried it

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jan 2018, at 16:41, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Bryan, this is "being nice" in English. Andy, this might be nice for British natives, but it certainly bears a high risk of being perceived as offending by non-native speakers, even if it was in

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-13 Thread Mike N
On 1/13/2018 5:02 AM, joost schouppe wrote: If we agree it's a problem that users get a message everytime someone reviews one of their changesets, then maybe we need a separate database for reviewing status. OSMcha has that, but we might integrate the reviewing status into OSM.org There

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jan 2018, at 15:25, Michael Reichert wrote: > > Ideally, this comment should be localized. If a user uses the German > locale of his editor, he should the receive the comment in German if the > reviewer also uses a German locale (it is then

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-13 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 13.01.2018 11:02, joost schouppe wrote: > - a reviewer in OSMcha can adapt the message to his own personal message > or an ad hoc message [...] > - a reviewer can choose to not send a message if they feel like they're > spamming Those would be steps in the right direction, but I wonder why

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-13 Thread joost schouppe
I don't think "a comment generated by" is the correct description. It is a comment generated -through- OSMcha. A human decided the changeset was good, that's nice to know for mappers. I guess it would be better if the reviewer can decide not to send this message, or have the option to chose which

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Stefan Keller wrote: > I would even go further by refering to policies about automated reply > mails and/or chat bots. I can't find an authoritative source but I > think there's at least a netiquette saying that communications to > humans

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Stefan Keller
2018-01-12 17:01 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr : > I agree. Right now, messages and comments sent via OSM channels tend to > be written by humans for a specific individual recipient, which gives > them a very good signal-to-noise ratio. Interesting discussion to me because I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2018-01-12 um 17:01 schrieb Tobias Knerr: > On 12.01.2018 15:39, Andy Townsend wrote: >> More seriously, any automatic use of OSM messages is problematical >> because it devalues the messages that we want people to actually read - >> the ones that are composed by and sent be a human, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 12.01.2018 15:39, Andy Townsend wrote: > More seriously, any automatic use of OSM messages is problematical > because it devalues the messages that we want people to actually read - > the ones that are composed by and sent be a human, and have actual > useful information in them I agree. Right

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/01/2018 14:52, Bryan Housel wrote: - “To European eyes the comments look like they were written by a six-year-old” Be nice everyone! Bryan, this is "being nice" in English.  It's a reply that incorporates a certain amount of humour (quotes around sarcasm, link to not-entirely-serious

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Bryan Housel
Yes, I agree the feature could be improved. Helpful: - "I think it should be more clear that clicking the button will add a changeset comment” - “I think localization could be improved and I’d love to help with this” - “I would like the opportunity to customize the message or see it before it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/01/2018 14:07, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi, OSMCha started posting comments to changesets a few days ago when a user marks a changeset as good or bad. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/wille/diary/43101 I would like to ask the author(s) of OSMCha to disable this feature. The example

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:07:11 +0100 Michael Reichert wrote: > If third-party tools start to post comments to lots > of changesets automatically In that case that would be clearly wrong. But if I understand > From now on, when we review a changeset in OSMCha, a comment

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-01-12 15:07, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi, OSMCha started posting comments to changesets a few days ago when a user marks a changeset as good or bad. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/wille/diary/43101 I would like to ask the author(s) of OSMCha to disable this feature. We expect to

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Mike N
On 1/12/2018 9:13 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: I love this feature, and I hope Wille keeps it in. The message is very well written, and it’s not spam if the user asks for their changeset to be reviewed and then somebody actually does it. I haven't used this yet because I wanted to add my own

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2018-01-12 um 15:13 schrieb Bryan Housel: > I love this feature, and I hope Wille keeps it in. > The message is very well written, and it’s not spam if the user asks for > their changeset to be reviewed and then somebody actually does it. It should be optional to post a changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Bryan Housel
I love this feature, and I hope Wille keeps it in. The message is very well written, and it’s not spam if the user asks for their changeset to be reviewed and then somebody actually does it. Thanks Bryan > On Jan 12, 2018, at 9:07 AM, Michael Reichert wrote: > > Hi, >

[OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, OSMCha started posting comments to changesets a few days ago when a user marks a changeset as good or bad. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/wille/diary/43101 I would like to ask the author(s) of OSMCha to disable this feature. We expect to read all mappers incoming message (personal