Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Please make clear if there is going to be used only cemetery tag or will
> there be two tags; cemetery and graveyard.
I can't tell you what tags will be used in the future. I (and some
others) would prefer to remove the distinction between the two tags and
use the same ta
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:24:55 +0200, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> Is there still some chance to get them merged?
Please make clear if there is going to be used only cemetery tag or will
there be two tags; cemetery and graveyard.
Also please make this REALLY clear on the wiki.
What is the difference be
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:25 PM, David Earl wrote:
>>
>> If you don't care, fine. But please don't suggest things that you
>> admit aren't good solutions.
>
> I'm not suggesting it - that's the way it already is.
You said "Just treat them as synonyms". It sounded like a suggestion to me.
> And I
On 10/09/2009 11:07, Roy Wallace wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:02 PM, David Earl
> wrote:
>>> Having two different ways to tag a particular entity is not the best
>>> solution when building a database, IMHO.
>> Indeed, but when we have an anarchic rather than specified tagging system,
>> thi
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Ciarán Mooney
wrote:
>
> I base this distinction on when you point at a cemetery and ask "What
> is that?" a local will respond "It's a cemetery.", ask the same
> question in a church graveyard and you get "It's a grave yard."
Fair enough.
> I am happy to continu
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:02 PM, David Earl wrote:
>
>> Having two different ways to tag a particular entity is not the best
>> solution when building a database, IMHO.
>
> Indeed, but when we have an anarchic rather than specified tagging system,
> this is the least of our problems!
If you don't
Hi,
> Sorry, I should also have said ... there are two tags because someone
> cared enough about the difference to want to differentiate them. I'm
> surprised whoever that was hasn't spoken up.
That may be me. :)
I do see a clear distinction between a grave yard and cemetery. I care
little how t
On 10/09/2009 10:02, David Earl wrote:
> On 10/09/2009 09:44, Roy Wallace wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, David Earl
>> wrote:
>>> On 10/09/2009 01:11, Roy Wallace wrote:
But I would support any proposal that merges these and includes
complementary tags to explicitly specify
On 10/09/2009 09:44, Roy Wallace wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, David Earl
> wrote:
>> On 10/09/2009 01:11, Roy Wallace wrote:
>>> But I would support any proposal that merges these and includes
>>> complementary tags to explicitly specify differences as necessary.
>> Does it really ma
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, David Earl wrote:
> On 10/09/2009 01:11, Roy Wallace wrote:
>>
>> But I would support any proposal that merges these and includes
>> complementary tags to explicitly specify differences as necessary.
>
> Does it really matter? Just treat them as synonyms.
Having t
On a side note, do people render different denominations in cemeteries?
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On 10/09/2009 01:11, Roy Wallace wrote:
> But I would support any proposal that merges these and includes
> complementary tags to explicitly specify differences as necessary.
Does it really matter? Just treat them as synonyms. Or adopt a rule
which says if a church is in the middle of it it is a
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
> 2009/9/10 Roy Wallace :
>>
>> By the way, I think a cemetery is better described as an amenity, not
>> a landuse, as I think it is "a useful and important facility" moreso
>> than "an area of land used by people" (from the wiki definitions of
What landuse would you recommend for a cemetery? It's been said that
all land should be covered by some landuse or other. Like putting in
Landuse=retail but also listing the individual shops as amenities.
So should we put both landuse=cemetery and an
amenity=cemetery/graveyard node, or are you s
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Ulf Lamping
wrote:
>
> How would you describe it?
Here goes...
> If there are 30 graves (often even 100 years old) directly near a church
> that's very certainly a grave_yard IMHO.
amenity=cemetery
cemetery:capacity=30
cemetery:year_span=1800-1900
If it is aff
Craig Wallace schrieb:
> On 10/09/2009 01:21, Ulf Lamping wrote:
>> Well, it's simply a bad thing to indicate stuff by something that's
>> "nearby". What's nearby? 1m/10m/100m/1000m? Is it indicated by a
>> place_of_worship, a building=church or xy?
>>
> But why does it matter whether there is
On 10/09/2009 01:21, Ulf Lamping wrote:
> Craig Wallace schrieb:
>
>> Though around here, quite a few of the graveyards next to churches are
>> operated by the council, and they are called "placename Cemetery" or
>> similar.
>>
> So what's the question now?
>
The question is what's th
Craig Wallace schrieb:
> On 09/09/2009 22:00, David Earl wrote:
>> On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>
>>> Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so
>>> confusing for this simple thing to map.
>>>
>> I think the original distinction was that a graveyard
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Craig Wallace wrote:
>
> Shouldn't the fact that they are next to / around a church be obvious
> from the church marked on the map? And the cemetery can be tagged with
> the operator / religion / denomination as appropriate.
+1
> Also, I notice (according to Map F
On 09/09/2009 22:00, David Earl wrote:
> On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>
>> Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so
>> confusing for this simple thing to map.
>>
> I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial
> ground around
David Earl wrote:
> I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial
> ground around a church, while a cemetery is a separate pice of land set
> aside for burials, not necessarily associated with a church, or a
> denomination - in the UK, many of these are operated by local
>
On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so
> confusing for this simple thing to map.
I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial
ground around a church, while a cemetery is a separate pice of land set
a
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Valent
> Turkovic wrote:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/graveyard
>>
>> This page is old/unfinished and very ambiguous. Can somebody make
>> clear how to tag cemeteries, and how to name
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Valent
Turkovic wrote:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/graveyard
>
> This page is old/unfinished and very ambiguous. Can somebody make
> clear how to tag cemeteries, and how to name them correctly?
>
> If I have polygon do I add name= to polyg
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/graveyard
This page is old/unfinished and very ambiguous. Can somebody make
clear how to tag cemeteries, and how to name them correctly?
If I have polygon do I add name= to polygon or do I add a point in the
middle of cemetery with amenity=ceme
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