[OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Childs
Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, so that when we hit reply the message goes to the list by default. This is the way most of the other lists I'm on work, and its a bit annoying having to use

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Lester Caine
Peter Childs wrote: Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, so that when we hit reply the message goes to the list by default. This is the way most of the other lists I'm on work, and its a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Patrick Petschge
Hi, Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, so that when we hit reply the message goes to the list by default. In short you missed http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html This is the way

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread John Smith
2009/9/3 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: People will explain why the current way is 'right' and other lists are wrong, and to be honest both views ARE equally valid :( When it comes to being inclusionary I think it's a valid argument to not require people to hit reply to all, many people new

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread John Smith
2009/9/3 Patrick Petschge o...@petschge.de: Right. Any sane mail client does that. Based on the list-header, without Virtually no mail client does this. Right, wrong or indifferent it's how things are and I highly doubt anyone new to mailing lists would have such a client. an annoying

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Matt Williams
2009/9/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/9/3 Patrick Petschge o...@petschge.de: Right. Any sane mail client does that. Based on the list-header, without Virtually no mail client does this. Right, wrong or indifferent it's how things are and I highly doubt anyone new to mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Patrick Petschge Kilian schrieb: Hi, Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, so that when we hit reply the message goes to the list by default. In short you missed

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread John Smith
2009/9/3 Matt Williams li...@milliams.com: I know that at least KMail has this feature. If there's a list-id in the header it will offer you a 'Reply to all', 'Reply to author' and 'Reply to list' option and default to the latter. Given this, it works fine on all these OSM mailing lists. Most

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Christoph Boehme
Matt Williams wrote: 2009/9/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/9/3 Patrick Petschge o...@petschge.de: Right. Any sane mail client does that. Based on the list-header, without Virtually no mail client does this. Right, wrong or indifferent it's how things are and I highly doubt

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Liz
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Ulf Lamping wrote: Repeating this link again and again doesn't make it any more right or wrong than any other opinion. I've read it all before. I'm on kmail, I've set reply to list , but its getting harder with the newer kmails to find the setting I frankly disagree with

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Matt Williams
2009/9/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: And you sent this to me directly, was the intentional or because the email client didn't reply to the list? No, it was because GMail defaulted to emailing just you and I forgot about it until it was too late. It's caught me out several times. I

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread David Earl
On 03/09/2009 11:53, Christoph Boehme wrote: Sylpheed Claws can reply to list as well and how many people have ever heard of that, let alone use it! and Thunderbird has an add-on which adds the command [1]. which I tried and it doesn't always work. And in any case if you have to press a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread John Smith
2009/9/3 Matt Williams li...@milliams.com: 2009/9/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: And you sent this to me directly, was the intentional or because the email client didn't reply to the list? No, it was because GMail defaulted to emailing just you and I forgot about it until it was too

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/09/09 11:53, Christoph Boehme wrote: Sylpheed Claws can reply to list as well and Thunderbird has an add-on which adds the command [1]. Thunderbird 3 has it built in. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Mike N.
We have to deal witht he reality of the situation, no commonly used mail client handles list headers properly, so it's pointless to argue this is a good reason to keep the status quo, in fact it's a good reason to set the reply to to the list since most mail clients don't handle it properly,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/09/09 12:28, John Smith wrote: I hope the reply to changes, if for nothing else than to be inclusionary of new people so they don't have to learn to cope with the self righteousness of others. Can we get the reply to on this and the talk-au list and the dev list changed please. Look

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread John Smith
2009/9/3 Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu: Yes I could change it, but then in six months we'll have a flood of complaints from the other side of the argument so I really don't see the point. Just learn to live with both setups. I did long ago. You can't exactly take the high road here, reply to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Childs
I was only trying to sort out what I find to be an annoyance and a possible cause of why we get a lot of emails on this list without answers. I did not mean to start a holy war. Personally I think Email needs a complete and utter re-design from the ground up. Its not fit for the purpose it is now

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread John Smith
2009/9/3 Mike N. nice...@att.net:   Some web forums allow email-based communications for those who need that. And for those modern kids, it allows RSS feeds, quickly adding new forum subject categories as needed, and rapid searching and archived thread following rather than relying on Google.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/09/09 12:49, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/3 Tom Hughest...@compton.nu: Yes I could change it, but then in six months we'll have a flood of complaints from the other side of the argument so I really don't see the point. Just learn to live with both setups. I did long ago. You can't exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/09/09 12:40, Mike N. wrote: The current communications methods are very awkward, particularly when participating in more than one subject. The amount of time to create a new password and sign up is absurd compared to a more typical single sign-on web forum based setup. That's

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Liz
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Tom Hughes wrote: Look people. This is, and has been for the 16 years that I have been reading email, a holy war issue (just like vi vs emacs etc) and whatever you do the other side will just complain. Frankly I long ago gave up caring - it's impossible to please everybody

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread MP
Also most people don't want the reply sent too them twice as if they are posting they are on the list, and hence should receive the answer twice. How do you know? Did you ask them? I _want_ to get direct copies. In case people don't want to read mails twice they can tell the list

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:36:14AM +0200, Patrick Petschge Kilian wrote: Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header Hi, Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, so that when we

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Jack Stringer
I guess it not a problem with the mailman mailing list manager. It should have a option to set whether you want that header or not. This would save many of the arguments. I prefer the reply to mailing list. I keep replying to the last person in threads. Often I don't notice until the next day.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:08:51PM -0500, Joseph Booker wrote: Sylpheed Claws can reply to list as well and how many people have ever heard of that, let alone use it! Probably very few, since it is called Claws Mail now :) No, you get double the chance of having heard of it! This